Pentagon To Retire USS Truman Early, Shrinking Carrier Fleet To 10

Press F or S fellers.

>UPDATED with additional comment WASHINGTON: Amidst rising anxiety over whether the US Navy’s thousand-foot-long flagships could evade Chinese missiles in a future war, the Pentagon has decided to cut the aircraft carrier fleet from 11 today to 10.

The """mighty""" USN is scared shitless of chinks.

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Not a bad move really, the LHD's will be able to do most of the patrol work with F-35's and leave the CVNs for more important duties.

Unlikely they will retire a 20 year old carrier

>completely false item of propaganda meant to prime the reader to disagree with what the journalist disagrees with and accept their lies
>legitimate but out of context piece of news
GAS GAS GAS
I'M GONNA STEP ON THE GAS

They just did, retard.


>Ignatius mentioned an estimated $4 billion in savings, but the real figure over time is likely to be much higher. The overhaul itself costs $6.5 billion and operating the carrier thereafter costs about $1 billion a year. So total savings could exceed $30 billion, albeit spread out over decades.

heh

>Truman entered service in 1998 and was built to serve for 50 years, but like all nuclear carriers, it requires regular maintenance, periodic upgrades, and a major overhaul at mid-life when its reactor core runs out of uranium. The ship was scheduled to go into the Newport News shipyard in 2024 for a mid-life Refueling & Complex Overhaul (RCOH) ending in 2028. That’s beyond the five-year budget plan about to be released, which therefore won’t include the vast majority of the savings from the cancellation. (That probably accounts for Ignatius’s estimate being too low).

>Cancelling the overhaul would let the reactor run down: Exactly how fast depends on exactly how hard the Truman has used it over the years, Hendrix told us, and on how hard it’s run in the future. It would force the ship’s retirement at some point in the mid to late 2020s, two decades ahead of the expected date of 2048.

so, they will build two new carriers in the future... for what purpose I have no clue. Carriers are fucking useless.

My thoughts exactly. I know the Truman was up for her mid life retrofit/refuel, but its also one of the younger Nimitz ships. I remember when she was launched when I was in elementary school.

>Carriers are fucking useless.
Battleship fags will never change.

US got conquered despite these fucking carriers. That money would have been better spent on small arms.

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Ohh you're a racefag. My apologies, you're even more retarded.

Sell it to Canada...please...we need to have carriers again.

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>Carriers are fucking useless.

Which is why China wants them so much right?

>we have to retire a carrier because we're stuck with Bugs and F-35s which puts us too close to ASM launch sites on the chinese coast
based, tomcat wins again

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But the carrier fleet was expected to go down to 10 active duty ships by 2020 ever since the 01 quadrennial review....

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It's over, America is dead. China will rule the world.

>gaslighting this hard
>gaslighting this poorly
lmao pathetic

>oh snap you frickin' turkey, looks like i posted a soiboy meme so you are defeated!
The funniest thing to me about Jow Forumsniggers is how they seem proud of having single-digit IQs.

Do I agree with people coming in undocumented? No.
Do I think the US was or ever will be some pure ethnostate? Hell no. Never was, never will be. Learn that fact my dude.

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t. non anglo catholic

Don't argue with Jow Forumsniggers user, it's pointless. It's like trying to convince an SJW that the patriarchy doesn't exist and their problems are their own fault, it's a fool's errand. They are pathetic, irresponsible people who need a scapegoat to blame for their failings, whether that scapegoat is muh ebil whyte men or muh ebil joos is really irrelevant.

it literally was in its founding you idiot. but certainly going back to that is a pipe dream.

>Author's name

neat.

When you put it like that its almost as though everyone who isn't in the middle has some sort of ulterior motive. I agree with you user, just had to post it so they don't think everyone thinks like them in their echo chambers.

>mfw the pentagon realizes there won't be an American military anything like we have now unless there are enough white people to pay for it

>tfw lifetime budgetary impact of most non-whites is negative, even takes 2 whites to make up for every mexican and 3 for every negro

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It's certainly not an impossibility.
Just look at how well current politics serve the people.

Yep, America was 100% pure white, not a nig or jew in in the country until 2016!

Part of the idea of the melting pot is that people become American and American only you autist, they don't claim to want America to do well while waving the Mexican flag or voting in Israel/China/Sudan's best interest.

>tfw you have to get everyone off of welfare to even have a chance of retaining US military supremacy

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Should have bought Indian hypersonic carriers.

Forget funding, the feds won't even have enough people to man the current equipment without instituting a draft.

We just need more white people. A good experiment would be importing millions of white Europeans to see what happens. Justice for importing millions of non-whites over the last 50 years.

>Generic Poster from the 1900's used to visually stimulate your mind because words are hard for you.

All of the founding fathers only cared about whites? K.

>t. basement dweller who doesn't know what a real vagina feels like

Hell, the president could claim mass immigration from white European countries was part of a negotiated deal.

Yeah, real unlikely, which is why this is news because it happened you jackass

I lost my virginity at 19, unlike the catholic school heretical sloots who rode the cock carousel between confessions

America being a white country was very much taken for granted, it should have been enshrined in the constitution. At least their immigration policy covered it, and until 1965 it was specifically designed to keep a white majority. When the change was made, we were lied to about it's effect. It was claimed it wouldn't alter the ethnic makeup of the nation.

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For modern total war maybe but they're pretty darn good at projecting force when we're at peace which is why Chyna wants some to traipse around their neck of the ocean.

You are aware that Italian American soldiers when on campaign in Italy during WWII would often refer not to it as an invasion, but a reunion right? They would literally go and meet up with their relatives in Italy when the fighting was over. That clinging to the old country shit will disappear after a generation or two.

It's not really an ulterior motive. They're not even consciously doing it. Echo chambers, moral relativism and identity politics are really powerful things, they can turn a perfectly reasonable person into a raving, slobbering, unreasonable nutjob faster than you could blink.

>import shitloads of anti-gun, anti-capitalism socialists who hate americans into the country
Truly the stupidity of the stormnigger knows no bounds.

The Jow Forumsnigger has the memory span of a goldfish. Attempting to explain something as complex as time or history to them is fruitless. They only care about NOW and they think everything is worse NOW than it's ever been, because they're historically illiterate. And mostly verbally illiterate too.

>Catholics are soo pure hurr!
Literally posts about their degeneracy while bitching about others, like pottery.

all of the europeans that immigrated here were also practically indistinguishable from each other after 100 years

t. rabbi shekelstein

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You're a lunatic if you think that's a valid point, or in any way relevant to what I posted. Yeah, that was a very nice and polite reunion, how many Italians died at the hands of American forces again?

Considering the manning problems, that's 3000 sailors who can transfer to other carriers.

>America was never 100 percent white so you have to become a minority in your own country, sorry.

Why? Why the fuck am I some sort of outlier for not wanting a country that was built by 80 percent or more whites to remain white? What right do Hispanics have here?

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Spics have been here for like 4 generations. Their kids who have been born here still go around waving Mexican flags, shouting "viva mexico" and demanding that we let in the rest of their worthless relatives. They are not assimilating, they never will. You're a fucking moron if you genuinely believe that the hordes coming from Central and South America are anything like the Italians, Germans, or Pollacks that came before them.

did you misread my post or something? I'll just spell it out for you; the US was founded by and for white anglo protestants.

>import shitloads of anti-gun, anti-capitalism socialists who hate americans into the country

That's not entirely true though, even the Nordic countries are far more capitalist than they were when they first tried socialist policies, as much as Bernout likes to claim they are socialist, they are so capitalist in some cases that the poor are taxed more than the rich because they cannot avoid paying the taxes or leave the country.

>Hahaha virgin!
>Oh you're not a virgin? Degenerate!
Oy vey, switch tactics

>enshrined in the Constitution
It's almost like it was only a concession to slave owners so the new world "nobility" would sign on.
You telling me the diet kikes would support a system that would take away their shekels?

See? His only response is to say
>hurr erry1 hoo disagreez wif me is a j00!!!111!one
Truly a magnificent example of a single-digit IQ in action

Interesting move. On top of the budgetary benefits, this could be part of a shift in strategy for the USN. What kind of role do carriers have in a future where hypersonic ASMs are a reality? I think it's a good move. Put the money saved into making sure sailors actually get their certs and then start to develop what the next iteration of the Navy is going to look like.

Cool the ad-hominem user. You can make the point without name calling.

Haha you spent all that time typing and strawmanning like a retard.

>Ignores points and calls ad-hominem
lol no response

And yet no one ITT knows how we are going to pay for a military like the one we have now, except the white advocates.

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Not him but where I live are several German dominant towns that actively speak German at home and still brandish German state flags and iconography.
The only reason this kind of thing isn't more prominent is because German immigrants were actively targeted during the first world war. Prior to that it was the second most commonly spoken language in the US.
Either heritage is important or it isn't.

>anglo catholic
Thought we'd got the last of you 400 years ago.

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Yes surely a cheaper navy will be competitive.

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I should've specified with
>t. non-anglo catholic

small arms that the whites would never dare to use?
face it, white people are nothing but little bitches.

The navy will fade into obscurity when the Space Force reaches maturity

They literally can't do this, it's against the law. Congress won't pass that budget.

>Generic Poster from the 1900's
Ah, I didn't realize the US was founded in the 1900s, silly me.

I think you missed the point of the picture, we can either have caravans of unwashed barbarians flooding across our border, or a first world navy.

But your anti-white hatred will surely win you the strawmanned argument.

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may as well have the first one since whites wouldnt stop it from coming in anyways.

Which is an effect of a massively pro gibs political group targeting the minorities.
If you saw more effort from conservative groups actually trying beyond showing up just before the polls open you would begin seeing a shift.
Minorities stay in those voting blocks because no attempt is made by others to draw them out in addition to the perception of conservative groups being racist (your case in point).
I wouldn't join a group screaming about white privilege any more than a black would join one with people yelling nigger.

have you been living under a rock? that caravan already reached the border and turned back the second it met actual resistance.

>80 percent
99.9% if we're counting citizens, but the rest is good.

It'll be fun in the 2030s though when the DOD starts drafting whites for the ethnic cleansing efforts after the ethnonationalist coup.

>import shitloads of anti-gun, anti-capitalism socialists who hate americans into the country

We're doing that now except they also cost massive amounts of money

no one built america. its been a shithole since day one.

your whites were the rejects of europe and have never done anything of note beyond lie and steal.

amerimutts need to get it through their thick skulls that their country is literally the only country who has been a shithole from start to finish.

>Which is an effect of a massively pro gibs political group targeting the minorities.
>Minorities stay in those voting blocks because no attempt is made by others to draw them out
Social constructionist, STFU, you are decades behind the research. Political tendencies are inherited biologically with a 0.4 correlation. That's huge in psychology, where 0.8 correlation(eg link between genes and IQ, or link between black population and crime rates) is the highest they've ever got in anything ever. You can try to adjust your sales pitch all you want, some people(s) are genetically leftist and will always go for the gibs.

I wonder if there's some sort of propaganda pushing, corporate-media-owning group behind the majority of that.

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but your version would be different because theyre white?

He didn't claim it was from when it was founded.

If they wanted an ethnostate they should have hired whites to work fields and build railroads. They didn't. So they decided from the moment non-whites were brought in it wasn't going to be a white utopia because money was more important.

literally all of americans would never dare to even fire in an immigrants general direction. you talk shit but never do anything.

So you too think whites should just use lethal force on groups of foreigners? You might get your way eventually, but it won't be a good thing.

That's a nice theory, but unless it is possible to actually end the welfare state without mass civil unrest it's all talk. Look at what happens when EBT isn't funded.

In addition, if you truly believe there is no outreach to non-white communities then I'm afraid you are SORELY mistaken. The Republican party has been trying to get black and mexican conservatives to support them en-masse for years, and so far the effort has been ENTIRELY WASTED.

The ONLY people who vote Republican are WHITES.

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because americans are lazy bastards who never have done anything of note.

you werent an ethnostate when you were founded; you were a fucking dumping ground.

Just shut up, retard. You're not helping.

>10 U.S. Code § 5062 - United States Navy: composition; functions

>(b) The naval combat forces of the Navy shall include not less than 11 operational aircraft carriers. For purposes of this subsection, an operational aircraft carrier includes an aircraft carrier that is temporarily unavailable for worldwide deployment due to routine or scheduled maintenance or repair.

Unless the Pentagon tries some bullshit where they try and count LHDs as carriers, they can't do this.

So you are just unaware that Hispanics overwhelmingly vote against gun and speech rights?

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>You might get your way eventually
lolno
american whites are the most pacified bitches on the planet. they wont do shit in the future and they wont do shit now.

56% land is going to die with a whimper, not a bang.

see

While I'm on the topic of Pew surveys.

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all americans do that.
they give up their freedumbs the moment they encounter resistance.

So this is why only white landowning men were allowed to vote

>Political tendencies are inherited biologically with a 0.4 correlation.
Jesus fucking Christ.
It's so easy to tell you've never had decent education.
Did you make to high school? Middle school? Or was elementary school too tough for your widdle mind?

>Did you make to high school? Middle school?
most americans havent. hence their obsession with race.

>UPDATED with additional comment WASHINGTON: Amidst rising anxiety over whether the US Navy’s thousand-foot-long flagships could evade Chinese missiles in a future war, the Pentagon has decided to cut the aircraft carrier fleet from 11 today to 10.

Gonna need a source from the Navy on that. Not the think tank comments linked in the articles. Truman to retire by 2024 with the Ford and Kennedy in service by 2020. Net carrier amount is 12. Can you faggots understand simple math?

Where's your vapid responses to these pew surveys?

Are they somehow mistaken about hispanics overwhelmingly wanting to expand the government and ban speech/guns?

i wouldn't doubt it. the truman is next up for a refit, so it with two better carriers on the way it only makes sense for the navy to make room .

That's my point.
Yes the welfare state is monumental to over come.
The issue with Republican outreach is still the "racist hick" image problem both manufactured and earned. If I were a minority with conservative values and I have 4 Republicans welcoming me over but there is one in the back yelling "shitskin go home this white man's country" I'm still not going to be eager.
This a false misconception because you only read what you want from studies. It's not inherited via some "liberal gene". Temperament, culture, social pressures, and more play an impact. Otherwise you would not see political splits in near homogeneous societies like we do.
Blacks didn't vote for gibs until the Great Depression when they were in an even worse off state and desperate and they were far from the only ones that did that.

your pew surveys are retarded.

american speech laws are nonexistant and american gun laws are the most assbackwards things to ever exist. just look at americas crime level compared to Europe. hell, even the middle east doesnt have as bad as crime rate as you.

>That's my point.
then why the fuck are you posting?

america was never good. not even when it was "white". and it will never be good.

period.

Right it makes sense. Get 12 carriers and save the cost of a four year refit for either new ships or more importantly surface crew training and people to prevent the issues in the 7th fleet from spreading. Also allows the maintenance of other ships with comports with the recent leaked memo pushing most hulls in a 50 service life. All in all not a bad move.

exactly. this thread is retarded and did not need to exist.

the r/T_D refugee crisis killed this site.