They want to make private sales require a NICS check

Is this the same bill?

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>This'll get knocked down in court and kneecap future gun shittery
Wooooooow

How the fuck did they slide this is so quietly? This is complete bullshit

>t. FFL holder

Jesus Christ they never stop..

It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out if it gets very far, as they will *literally* be requiring a fee for the exercise of a constitutionally protected right.

It's entirely unconstitutional, but that hasn't stopped states with strong "right to arms" constitutions from being cucked by it... whole different ball-o-cucks on a federal level though, significantly more scrutiny

Calling it now, this gets ruled unconstitutional and states with current universal background checks get uncucked

LOL jk

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Good. No more niggers with priors buying guns.

If you want gun violence to go down so we don't look like retards this is a step in the right direction.

You're an idiot for thinking that the law would be backward enforceable - NICS has been around barely 20 years.

If they really wanted to reduce guns getting in the hands of criminals, all they would have to do is all the general population to have access to NICS. Something like just go to a police station and ask them to process the forms for you (and pay them the fee for processing it).

Also no more guns found at the scenes of crimes that aren't traceable back to anybody.

This has always been a dumb loophole. Yeah it makes buying a used gun slightly less convenient for you but shit there are definitely benefits.

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, theyre going to give away rights because they think theyre compromising in our interest

Yeah why don't they throw in banning gun sales for people on watch/no-fly lists while they're at it? Go ahead guise, I promise it won't backfire! (Not that the public will pick up on the fact that the inevitable outcome was clear as day all along)

Good. I'm not saying it's anywhere near a fair trade, but its something.

If this passes and they continue to infringe upon 2a rights until nearly is illegal, will you simply disregard the nfa entirely and do what you want?

Jow Forums and even Jow Forums will defend this

Fuck off you discord trannyfaggot

youre going to be on a list and a target for future discrimination. they will cone back for your guns when they know who has them

You fucking faggots put AOC in office. IF you aren't to blame, then who the fuck is? Faggot.

>democrap sabre-rattling passes dem-controlled House
>Donald has promised to veto it
>Senate will probably kill it anyway
Oh look, more fearmongering over absolutely nothing.

Yes, was added as an ammendment

Nah, only sales from beyond the effective date will require it

but then we wont know who has the guns we want to take. theyd never do this

Let's see if the Senate will take this up for a vote, I doubt McConnell will but who knows.

Still, the fact that this has gained any traction at all is a problem

Because it has no chance of passing. It's just the dems riling up their base with bills they know damn well won't pass as usual.

I don't see it anywhere in the text
congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8/text

>unenforceable without national registry
We've been over this in my state before. You can't enforce this law without a registry of all firearms. Even with a registry, anyone who wants to sell guns illegally, will. You can't require every gun in the US currently to be registered, because it would be impossible to do so.

My collection of "braces, oilfilters and bottle openers" implies yes

1. The Dems only care about mass shootings, and pretty much all mass shooters did or would have passed a background check. They don't care about people in the ghettos ventilating each other, nor do they care about statistical realities of violent crime (other than those tortured and warped to serve their ideology).
2. There is no compromise, there is no appeasement. Every step on gun control is just one more step toward lists and then confiscation. Fight them tooth and nail.

They've been doing this shit for decades now you absolute child. Happens almost every election cycle: Party A proposes a bill that will never pass, so they can accuse Party B of not passing it because they eat babies or something. Jesus christ at least take a basic poli-sci class before you run your mouth.

>responding to someone who is either a Jow Forumsnigger, discord tranny or CTR shill
gg Jow Forums

>There is no compromise, there is no appeasement

Agreed in all other areas, except this one. The fact that someone can buy a gun without a background check is mind boggling. Get rid of every other gun law but god damn that's stupid.

So? It no reason to get complacent

SHALL

begone shill

The fact that you're allowed to speak openly without a background check is mind boggling.

The fact that women are allowed to vote without a background check is mind boggling.

The fact they you're innocent until proven guilty without a background check is mind boggling.|

Do you see how retarded you sound?

Also worth noting that all the evidence indicates gun control has a slight positive correlation with violent crime and homicide. The thing is that they talk about reducing "gun violence" rather than violence overall, a slight of hand that disregards deterrent/defense effects and implies that things can always be better (less "gun violence") with more gun control.

>It no reason to get complacent
>me Grug smart man
>Grug freak out and throw baskets around cave every time chicken-man says sky will fall

The fact that it sounded that retarded is what should clue you in to the fact he's a troll/shill.

It was a resolution to consider hr 1112
So, that and hr8 are probably going to be considered as a package

congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/145

Who the fuck said anything about freaking out like a child? It just means we shouldn't get complacent, not throw a shit fit

There was neither a vote today or yesterday in the US House of Representatives.
>congress.gov/

fear is a good thing when it comes to your rights, this is a good thing, fear spreads information. fast.

This guy knows what he's talking about. A major thing that sucks about them controlling the house is that they're no longer cucked and sitting on their thumbs.

It just keeps getting fucking worse.
Why was I born in 95.
Why do I live in MD
I will never get to own any fun firearms. I was too busy in school, now I have to pay a mortgage on a house just so I can afford to someday own guns, but I WONT get to someday own guns because they keep takjing our rights and there isn't a nice place in the world to move to where I can buy guns...

Eat shit. I don't need government approval to give my family or friends a firearm.

No, you sound retarded. Those are all different issues. Guns are related to serious crime. Voting and all that other shit isn't. A brainlet would make those comparisons.

You need to be reasonable. Like I said I understand it's less convenient for you to have to get your background checked rather than just being able to buy a gun in a Walmart parking lot. But there are gangbangers buying guns in such parking lots and those turds are the reason you need guns in the first place. If some nigger killing your loved one is what it's going to take to get you to change your mind, that's called being dumb. Just see all aspects of the issue now instead. Some people shouldn't be allowed to legally buy a gun so easily.

>40723604
don't bite

Voting puts everyone on a level playing field even when they clearly are not.

It lets a billy bumblin 2 toothed redneck have the same voice as a 45 year veteran on an issue. All in the name of "democracy".

We are a republic and yet Liberal forces continue to push for a "common vote" and the abolition of the electoral college so their less educated constituents can have the same impact as those who actually understand issues.

Voting is more dangerous than firearms, because at least you can defend yourself against guns. You can't defend yourself when they vote to take your rights away just because they hold the majority,.

>40723604
They aren't different issues, you want to make it a different issue so your logic can exist in your vacuum which is retarded from the get go.

>you need to be reasonable
its completely unreasonable to assume that because my rights are being squandered in one area they cannot be squandered in another.

Gang bangers are NOT going to do this, this doesn't stop criminals from unlawfully trading especially because its more likely they were already unlawfully trading from the beginning.

What gains are there to be had when now I, an innocent civilian, will now have to jump through a hoop that a criminal never had to, won't have to, and never will have to, just to enjoy my rights

Get the fuck out

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Nigga what?
I literally watched the live stream

Here, have a link to the record of the vote too
clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll099.xml

>Voting is more dangerous than firearms, because at least you can defend yourself against guns. You can't defend yourself when they vote to take your rights away just because they hold the majority,.

Actually you can, by using a gun

Background checks aren't taking your guns you retard.

What are you going to do? Shoot everyone who voted against you? You'll never make it. You can take it to court, but I hope you have a lot of money and enjoy prison while you wait.

>Get rid of every other gun law but god damn that's stupid
I don't think you're a shill and you honestly sound like you mean well. But it's stupid to think that this is a viable political strategy for defense of gun rights. There will never be a gun control measure traded for a repeal. No compromise will last. This is why we speak in the language of rights: because hard lines and principles are the ONLY things that preserve liberty over the long term.

POISON PILL

Shall

>lets make the system more complicated without implicitly taking your rights. Lets just make it harder, no its not taking your rights we're just making it harder to exercise them

How do you intend on enforcing this?

That's right: a registry and ATF entrapment.

at what point did I or anyone where have a say in what bills they propose. I voted against AOC but I cant counter the city alone user.

I'm sorry user. I was rude. I'm just.. upset and flustered. I feel like my vote has never counted and my voice has never been heard. I feel outgunned and backed into a corner and I just don't know what to do.

How can someone even be this blind?

Its an attrition thing. Makes it harder for more people to get into guns, thus reducing the number of people to oppose more stringent laws. Its the long game that matters

>be reasonable goy we just want a record of every firearm sold for your safety goy we would never abuse it trust us we are proud gun owners like you

Dont remember Jow Forums having this many shills before

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You can't enforce it, which is why it doesn't matter. It's security theater legislation, nothing changes, the retards who straw purchase or sell to niggers will continue to do so, the only person who suffers is the buyer who has to pay extra for a check.

> Recent high-profile mass shootings like Vegas and Parkland committed with weapons bought through an FFL
> This still happening

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its alright user I understand. I've lived in new york all my life and had to sit here and watch my rights be eroded despite my voting efforts only to be told to run from the issue and leave state. Well god damn no. This is my home and I will stay to work towards a better future.

I stand corrected, but forgive me for not reading the multiple thousand word document and only ctrl+f for the word "private," but what is the specific verbiage that requires private parties to conduct a NICS check?

I just wish my wife understood why I get so upset about this and didn't tell me I was being childish for wanting guns.

>nothing changes
except the looming fear of a felony over your head.

Unenforced laws are the most dangerous because you can't predict when you'll get slammed with it because you won't actively know you're breaking it.

If speeding laws were rarely enforced it'd be the same thing.

The bigger problem is that it's not within any federal power. This is literally the opposite of interstate commerce, which is the power justifying BCs at traditional gun stores. I expect UBCs to hold up at the state level, but not federal, assuming they ever pass.

congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8/text This is LITERALLY only a hundred words. The entire thing outlines Private Parties now need it. Please just read the bill.

Its aight, i got you

>(t) (1) (A) It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s).

Functionally this means that you will have to hand over the transferred firearm to someone with a FFL to perform a background check before it can be handed over to the person youre selling to

>literally the opposite of interstate commerce

So what youre telling me is, this will be an easy SCOTUS win

>IM PISSED BECAUSE FILLING OUT A PIECE OF PAPER VIOLATES MY RIGHTS

I guess voting registration violates your rights too huh?

It will take a decade or more to go to SCOTUS

Basically someone has to get arrested for breaking this law and press up, have the money to do it or have nothing to lose.

Hang in there user. We may fight like catholic priests over the last altar boy, but Jow Forums is a family. I propose a “how you doing, user?” thread.

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It does because voting registration is what they used to deny blacks the right to vote.

Maybe I'll take you up on it.
Gotta go on Armslist and sell a few of my guns which really sucks. Good ol USA, gotta pay some bills and I got more toys than I know what to do with that I just don't want. I'm a .22lr connoisseur and I love subsonic especially so I'm a real niche...

>attempt bill
>gets shut down
>slightly edit and re-submit
>rinse and repeat until it gets passed regardless of what courts say
It's like you're new to this
>Trump
>promises
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Donald isn't our friend.

>committing your life to somehow who shares polar opposite opinions of your hobbies
Lmao the things some people do for pussy is outrageous