will it's success ever be replicated?
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Will it's success ever be replicated?
Andrew Jenkins
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Oliver Davis
It was literally a monkey model, designed from the get-go to be a cheap piece of shit sold to our allies so they could put something in the air if need be. It did a pretty good job at that role but as far as being the mainstay of a professional and capable air force, it was never in the same league as something like an F-4.
Gabriel Price
Nicholas Morris
Another butthurt F-4 fag
Austin Wright
The f-4 out performs it in every aspect though.
Dominic Sanders
>it's success
Success? They did a good job in an experimental program in 'Nam as light attackers, and some Eurocunts who never see combat employed them as point defense interceptors. Those are two minuscule successes, certainly not enough to consider the whole program a success.
This guy gets it. F-5 was the J-7 of the West, except China actually used J-7s in number.
Oliver Martin
Yes. It alredy is.
Austin Garcia
An F-4 is three times as expensive to buy and fly tho, and quantity is a quality too.
Elijah Diaz
>will it's success ever be replicated?
It's been surpassed
Tyler Evans
does it outperform in cost or logistical footprint?
there is no point in being faster or more maneuverable than the best jet available if none of your foes have the best jet
Jaxon Robinson
>does it outperform in cost or logistical footprint?
For a given amount of performance, decidedly yes.
As a rule, you always want to go full quality on jets if you ever plan on actually using them, because the lifetime costs of a low-end fighter jet are just not so much lower than those of a high-end fighter jet that you could get enough more of them to make up the difference in actual combat. It takes a lot of man hours to keep any jet flying, and that doesn't come cheap.
So a cheap fighter like an F-5 or a hand-me-down mig21 is fine when it's just there to check the "has an air force" box on your CIA nation state profile, or for bullying even poorer poorfags, but it's not going to do you much good if it's going to be facing some actual peer opposition.
See: soviet vs american jet K:Ds
See: Indian Mig21 leaving a brown streak across some paki clay.
Jack Watson
The F-20 Tigershark would have been the greatest export aircraft ever made
Michael King
Didn't the poos shoot one Down with a mig or something?
Aaron Lewis
Yeah. And a guy in a Parachute once shot down a nip Zero with a 1911. Doesnt really prove anything.
Justin Howard
Don't get me wrong-I love it as much as you
But the low wing crippled its ability to operate as a multirole bomb truck
Sebastian Roberts
the Zero was a terrible plane though
basically the slavshit of the 30s
Nicholas Perez
ground attack is basically just bombing sand niggers, a pedestrian and dull task compared to airwar
Nathan Wood
Na, it was rather good for the 30's. It was just outdated by 1941.
Lucas Gomez
Look at today's cheapo 3rd-world export jet, the JF-17: not as good a dogfighter as the Tigershark was, but it sells because the people buying this sort of hardware want the most bang for their buck
Once Northrop realized that bigger ordnance wouldn't work, they simplified the main landing gear to open out rather than forward/back and sacrificed the underwing hardpoint
the F-20 was a machete in a world of swiss army knives-good for cutting big stuff, but not at all the little jobs around a house
Landon Clark
most euro triangles fit in that category
Cameron Turner
Speaking of the F5E Yugoslavia was very eager to purchase it in the 70s though as Nixon was ousted and Ford lacked enough power to push the deal through eventually the deal fell through, Leading to Yugoslavia trying to produce its domestic aircraft and purchasing a few MiG 29s as a temporary countermeasure.
Adrian Sullivan
Jace Moore
The F-5A was tested by the Soviet Union (captured South Vietnamese model) and found superior in dogfight to MiG-21, even slightly superior to MiG-23. The F-5 program was a spectacular success - it should have been employed much more by NATO.
Now about similar successes; the A-4 comes to mind.
Charles Green
Connor Robinson
Lincoln Parker
Jaxson Jones
Not really as cheap as people seem to think
Jackson Johnson
No, they didn't shoot down an F-16. Vatniks are determined to push the meme that it happened though. It's pretty sad to watch actually.
Asher Watson
>will it's success ever be replicated?
What is is F-16...
Ryder Murphy
Sebastian Adams
Couple the super tucano with f15s and you have a relatively cheap and effective Air Force.
Owen Thompson
You'd do better with that 50 year old Argentine Pucara. Better loiter time, heavier payload, more survivable.
Carson Ramirez
But, what does it do that the F-16 can't?
Owen Carter
The tucanos advanced avionics is where it shines. It fills an aerial recon role pretty well, along with being fitted with precision guided munitions. Plus it just looks damn good
Jeremiah Roberts
Nothing. It just does all the same things at an even lower price.
Julian Walker
It is pretty. For anti-insurgency though, I'll still take the pucara. If I really need recon I can probably design some kind of reconnaissance carried pod. Also, there's nothing stopping you from retrofitting advanbced avionics into pucara frames.
But you're right, the tucano is nicer looking.
Thomas Perez
Light attack prop planes that do important work for an affordable price is a fetish of mine.
Jeremiah Davis
Oh also, talking about toughness, I had to look it up to confirm, but a pucara ate at least twenty 30mm shells from a sea harrier during the falklands before falling out the sky.
Leo Lewis
That really speaks to its toughness, I’ll have to look into the Pucara after work
Liam Peterson
Joshua Miller
Even if it happened it still doesnt mean jack shit. Of course a beat to shit MiG-21 could down an F-16 in the right situation. Especially peacetime.
Brody Gomez
manned fighters (and supersonic/high-altitude flight generally) will be almost nonexistent in another decade.
Christian Edwards
Doubt it.
Zachary Harris
Go fuck up another bord with your shitty uneducated opinions faggot.
Logan Price
>it was never in the same league as something like an F-4.
It was never intended to be.
Isaiah White
We don't know.India claims it shot down something that fell on Pakistan,but Pakistan denies.Both sides are liars,especially the pakis.
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> F-15
No.Too big,expensive and old.If you want cheap but effective buy Gripen with Meteor.
Carson Morales
Ryder Flores
>too old
Still the best mass produced fighter ever built. F22 is great but only 180 something we’re produced.
Adam Williams
No the pakis shot down a mig with the 16
Logan Martinez
>more expensive than newer, better planes
yeah nah
Lincoln Harris
>F-16
Shot down by an ancient MiG-21!!!!
LOL'd.
Jayden Myers
Post proof. If not stay eternally butthurt that western planes have the best combat record.
Matthew Richardson
do you really? or do you just not want to think about it? automation is happening.
Kevin King
>MUH PROOFS
>MUH PROOFS
Here you go, retard.
Evan Green
Not him but, that's not proof. No videos, pictures or anything has been shown as proof. Only Mig parts that have been shown off as F16 parts and personal equipment.
Mason Phillips
That's "proof" of a AIM-120 being used in the area.
I say "proof" since the serial number apparently comes back as from an order of AIM-120s to Taiwan. Should have done better research before scribbling numbers on a gutter pipe Pajeet.
Still not seeing any evidence of downed F-16.
Aren't you going to post some more scattered MiG parts and claim they are from F-16, or did you fucks finally figure out that most people can recognize basic shapes and pattern much better than the average Indian apparently can?
Henry Bell
Not really. The thought of automated fighter drones replacing pilots in 10 years is absurd.
Justin Brown
>MUH VIDEOS!!!!!!!
lol'd fucking hard at your MASSIVE butthurt.
Aaron Clark
Deflecting from your own butthurt about slavshit performance. Many such cases
Isaiah Lee
WE DEMAND VIDEOS!
Christopher Ward
Its true. So will it go with thousands of other jobs as the become computerized and will work for weeks without rest or compensation.
Juan Foster
we germ mans want more refugees to rape our mothers, sisters and girl friends.
Jack Foster
Modern Lead-in Fighter Trainers can replicate the F-5 and even surpass it in some ways.
Gavin Smith
No the Pakis shot down a poo mig
Gavin Cooper
>manned fighters (and supersonic/high-altitude flight generally) will be almost nonexistent in another decade.
lol no. Even if AI controlled missile trucks/wingmen are feasible, they'll always be led by one human operated plane. We won't see fully unmanned squadrons for at least another 50 years
Owen Green
Careful, your wrecking his dreams
Evan Davis
>misha gets asked for BROOFS
>Only response is muttposting like the mouth breathing krokodil addicted tard he is
Luke Morgan
Are they as cost effective?
Parker Peterson
Well, considering we Filipinos abandoned the F-5 for it due to maintenance issues, age, the lack of spare parts due to halted manufacture, I'd say yes.
Nathaniel Bailey
Alexander Rivera
Thomas Flores
>parts of amraam
have a proof that ISIS shootdown Su-34 in syria then
Liam Lopez