Why was he such a based general?
Why was he such a based general?
Because he burnt Georgia to the ground... FUCK YOU LARY!!!
>Sherman's record as a tactician was mixed, and his military legacy rests primarily on his command of logistics and on his brilliance as a strategist. The influential 20th-century British military historian and theorist B. H. Liddell Hart ranked Sherman as one of the most important strategists in the annals of war, along with Scipio Africanus, Belisarius, Napoleon Bonaparte, T. E. Lawrence, and Erwin Rommel
stolen from wikipedia
as the saying goes
amateurs study tactics, professionals study strategy, masters study logistics
Because his love for the south and not wanting to see her at war, fueled his drive to end the conflict as quickly as possible by doing whatever he could no matter how brutal or uncivilized his orders would be.
The end justifies the means.
I love how antifa try to spam this board with various figures the right finds controversial (bomber harris, sherman, etc) and try hard to ignore the fact that they would make 99% of the people here look like liberal faggots.
He wasn't. He was a mediocre field commander whose sole achievement in his entire career was terrorizing civilians. If he was on the losing side, we'd call that a "war criminal," but I guess because he wore the right color uniform it makes him a war hero instead to retarded bootlicking Yanks.
Thought outside the box with regards to conventional warmaking at the time. Compare/contrast with Lee who was very much in the mindset of the then-current European military thinkers (and was very good at it).
I'm a literal fascist in the truest sense of the word and I have no problems with Sherman or Bomber Harris. It's entirely justified to use any means in war to achieve victory. I do have a problem with the faggots that circlejerk over them though.
>Thought outside the box
Burning down towns and stealing food from civilians isn't thinking outside the box, people have been doing that since 10,000 B.C.
southern redneck trash detected...prolly on welfare too
He was a psychopathic killer with a commission.
Shit, he'd be tried for what he pulled even if he won if he were around today.
>with regards to conventional warmaking of the time
Please read the entire post user.
Wasn't born in the South, don't even live there. My family has lived in the same 50 mile radius in Indiana for 200 years, and my forefather fought for the 14th Indiana Regiment in the Civil War and was at Chancellorsville, Gettysburg, and Cold Harbor. And I'm most certainly not on welfare.
>I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.
d-do it again uncle billy!
You may now only post in this thread if an ancestor of yours fought in the civil war
Retarded northerners brought upon the beginning of the end for America. Good job mongrelizing this country and ruining the 2nd Amendment.
>wanted to keep importing and keeping slaves
>I-its the norths fault!
this is your brain of dixie
southern white trash are worse than niggers
In some ways I agree.
The north winning did a lot of harm in the long run, especially in the post-war decades right after.
The White League, mass unemployment for blacks, many in the south losing their land, recovering from the obvious death toll, the Union pissing off the blacks because they didn't fulfill a ton of their promises, reconstruction in shambles, and a divided nation.
That last point... What's the point of the "United States" if you're more divided than ever?
In my opinion they should have just cut their losses, let the south secede, and get on with life.
There was plenty of territory to go around to establish new industry and trade for the north if they were so concerned about their GDP.
Hell, slavery would have been phased out in no time with or without the war if that was such a huge issue.
He defeated a larger force at Atlanta lol
The North gave citizenship to niggers. Retards ruined this nation.
assassinating lincoln was the real mistake
you realize he planned on deporting all former slaves to africa?
>If he was on the losing side
Except that's impossible because
A L L H E D O E S I S W I N
Two different Americas would've led to inevitable conflict. Two sides slaughtering each other is far more dividing then we are now. Sure we have tensions at times but nothing like during the civil war. Also the reconstruction period was a big reason for the south industrializing.
He really wasn't. By the time he took command the hard work had been done by other generals and the Navy. The March to the Sea was of lesser strategic importance than the capture of New Orleans, the naval blockade, Vicksburg, and Gettysburg. On the other hand the March is the most visible, easily understood, and least controversial (in a military sense) of the successful Union campaigns. Grant was a much better general but lacks the memetic potential.
Also dixiefags fuck off. You lack any moral authority and there was no way the South could have one the war. You're as deluded as most wehraboos. Muh southern honor is the same cope as muh German super weapons.
Lincoln offered to deport former slaves early on he was not planning to deport former slaves by the time he made the emancipation proclamation.
>Two different Americas would've led to inevitable conflict.
In some ways I don't see any problem with this.
It would be natural instead of forced, just as how Europe was for hundreds of years, and would inevitably allow us to form unbreakable camaraderie with other countries that share the same continent.
Obviously the US as we know it would cease to exist, but you'd have a much deeper culture, tradition, and rich (not entirely monetary) people as a result.
In the end this is just wishful thinking though, but you get the idea.
>far more dividing then we are now
I was mostly referring to all of the crap that happened afterwards up until relatively recently a few decades back.
Had the south been allowed to secede, at one point or another they would have freed those under them on their own accord in order to follow the example set by other nations. Not to mention that it's a hell of lot cheaper to run agricultural equipment than feed, house, and provide medical care for slaves.
Hell, I'm sure most of them would have freed them and then just subsequently hired them to work on their plantations and soon-to-be factories.
Would have saved that entire race and Dixie herself from a lot of grief if the south was only allowed to go at her own pace.
You delusional shit. If the Mississippi basin were divided, neither party could be strategically secure. The end result would be unending bloody conflict of the kind that stunts a culture, as in the Balkans.
The uncontested control of the North American continent is what made America secure, it is what made it great, and without it your "traditions" would have already been drowned in a tide of Red chicanos.
>I'm a literal fascist
heh heh easy there big guy lol
Well I did say it was wishful thinking, however I don't think what I suggest is too unrealistic, just a bit too optimistic.
Of course there would be hard times ahead for them if the Civil War didn't occur, there's always hard time no matter what you do.
It's the states' ability to govern themselves and form their own unions which is the beauty in this idea, this alternative timeline.
He burnt Atlanta and I wished he would do it again
Found the fag who found Jow Forums after Sandy Vag.
Consider suicide.
>quote
Sherman would have hated post-9/11 USA.
>bring niggers here
>kill the guy who was going to send them back
>"Hurr da norf gave niggurs citizenship"
You guys deserve a second fire
>Buttblasted southerner
Atlanta was a shit hole anyway
What you going to do Yankee, throw rocks at us?
>masters study logistics
you know who says this? Pogs and fobbits
>that URL
Please go back to your tranny reddit sub
>Sherman was a whiny fag trying to emulate Eurohomo romantic war bad memes
what a fag
>man burns Atlanta to the ground
He's a hero
>starves to death with an empty rifle
Whoa, so this is the power of Grunt IQ.
DO IT GAIN BOMBER HARRIS
t. not leftist
Say that to his face
>Caring about some dumb war from 150 years ago.
Plebs.
yeah what a smart guy, starving his own countryman
Sherman was a psychopath and the only reason the North won was because
R A I L R O A D S
and the fact that Southerners weren't psychotic maniacs who would murder northerner citizens because they still saw them as fellow countrymen
>still buttblasted after all these year
Sherman is going easy on you fucks
You know what, with what I've seen most of the time, I agree with this guys. But once you get an fucking outstanding 92Yankee? Or some awesome S4s? That shit is fucking legit as fuck and you will wish for no other friend. That is why I love my supply guys and I feel for em. But shitbags gonna shitbag and a decent amount of supply guys I know are such as this.
There is truth to this man's words.
Especially when you see line platoon guys picking up the slack for their supply line's fuck ups and doing speed bags and other HQs Platoon jobs because they were so woefully incompetent.
>tfw Sam Houston fan
>tfw he tried his hardest to keep Texas out of the civil war and they still kicked him out of office and it practically killed him
>I love how antifa
spot the newfag
"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail."
He tried to warn them.
>being proud of war crimes
Ok Israeli
Lincoln was never going tp deport the niggers. That was a meme.
It’s only a war crime if they don’t have it coming.
*snort*
Thanks user, I needed that.
>dabs hard on the south
Based and Shermanpilled
Please go back to leftypol
based
Didn't the south have more industrial potential than the north though?
I came here just to say this is a pretty fucking cool flag, regardless of politics, but I can't celebrate it because retards literally go apeshit when they lay eyes on it.
Can't beat the Red'n Exes.
still is, but fuck you either way
how did it become so hated again?
why?
Idk, it's not even the actual Confederate flag. It's a battle flag.
The Civil War
kinda like how Georgia went from having a confederate flag on our state flag to having... another confederate flag.
News, social media, widespread access to the internet.
Before that, nobody really cared.
literally MacArthur's(a real man who saw combat in ww1) prat boy
because a war was fought? the confederate flag is second only to a nazi flag with how violently the thing is hated. there's clearly more to it.
They need something to be angry about because they're bored with their lives.
They wish they could have lived during some pivotal time in history but they were born too late.
Now they attack the past and act as if it's some righteous cause that'll go down in the history books.
See The fact that they only hate the battle flag just proves this point even more.
They don't give a damn about history, just validation on social media.
Wow, symbols symbolize things. Holy shit user, you're a fucking genius.
The South is your deadbeat brother who picked a fight at Thanksgiving , got beat, and never fails to talk shit about you when he asks your parents for money.
There's no more statehood identity, there's no more widespread militias, and there's certainty no army.
What the flag stands for isn't a threat to them, yet they go on acting as if it still is by trying to vilify it and tearing down monuments.
All it means now is heritage, home, tradition, family, etc.
I respect anyone's right to fly it, and this is coming from a northerner that was scared at the sight of it while growing up.
to be fair, this high and mighty not deadbeat brother was eating off of the deadbeats plate
not at all, almost zero compared to the north
>muh cotton
Fuck off
He made some neat neckties.
Also because he buttfucked lazy slave owning niggers who were to dumb to realize that slavery was way more expensive compared to hiring some desperate Irish or German chump off the boat and pay him nickles without having to worry about shit like making sure their healthy, sheltered, fed and not gimped by retard from deep Appalachia who's idea of keeping a normally healthy and able bodied slave from running is to cripple them.
hidden hand secrets
No u
All memes aside he really did nothing wrong, dixiefags are just mad they weren't Chad enough to do the same to the north. That being said I want to remind all the fag leftists idolizing him that he drowned a bunch of freed niggers on purpose because they wouldn't stop following his army and begging for gibsmedats.
Because racists use it as a political dog whistle.
>imported millions of niggers because too jewish to pay people for their work
>you mongrelized American
He saw it so clearly; the disparity between North and South and even the eventual course of war. I wonder if this was commonly understood at the time for him to formulate it like that.
Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, you may win Southern independence if God be not against you, but I doubt it. I tell you that, while I believe with you in the doctrine of states rights, the North is determined to preserve this Union. They are not a fiery, impulsive people as you are, for they live in colder climates. But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche; and what I fear is, they will overwhelm the South.
>kill the guy who was going to send them back
It took centuries to bring all of them here by the Civil War, not to mention the generations that had been born in the US over the same period
"Oh yah we'll just send them back"
The only people who never cared were people who had an education based on the "lost cause" narrative of "Noble southerners going to inevitable defeat"
They succeed because they lost an election.
What would people have thought if people succeeded because trump was elected? or obama. before he was even inaugurated.
>It took centuries to bring all of them here
Oh jeesus it's retarded
DO IT AGAIN, UNCLE BILLY
DO IT AGAIN, UNCLE BILLY
DO IT AGAIN, UNCLE BILLY
becuz your are gay and a nigger
Do it again, Uncle Billy!
Protip: the Confederacy would have collapsed within a few years and instead of using the term banana republic we’d be using the term cotton republic
Except the South did do the same thing in both of the failed Northern invasions user
Except your categoricallly wrong.
Cotton made up 60% of all US exports. But without Northern infrastructure, that cotton goes nowhere. And vice versa, the bulk of import tariffs were paid in Northern ports and harbors.
At the time of secession, the export tariff laws were authored by a future Confederate Senator and the lowest they’d been in decades.
DO IT AGAIN, UNCLE BILLY