EUROFAGS ONLY

spaniard here
Mag capacity isn't really banned, what is banned is the ammount of bullets you can put on the magazine (lol)

But, magazines are not regulated, anyone can buy a magazine (BUT the use of those magazines is regulated)
for example, OP pic related is from a spanish shop

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But the ICAE wants to apply the EU directive so it's quite possible that high capacity magazines get banned

>buy a 30 rounds magazine
>can't use it
So you want it for collection?

Russia
Yes
Yes

Michigan
No
Yes

Tennessee

Binary, 50 rnd .308 drum fed, team support chking in

700rpm of freedom

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Ireland 223 is OK but only bolt pump or lever rifles

Yes, yes... for collection

I'm considering mother russia as a possible place to escape the rapid degradation of our western society. I like the culture, don't mind the cold, can get guns, and love the intolerance for degeneracy over there.

Prepare for disillusionment. Mainly because the very idea of western degradation is flawed

>Finland
>Only 2 + 1 in the chamber limit for semiautos while hunting, otherwise no.
>Yes

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>Belgium
>No mag capacity ban
>No barrel lenght or oal rules
>All calibers allowed but 5.7x28 because muh cop killer round
>Surplus guns transformed from full auto to semi auto are allowed too

Sadly the EU directive will probably fuck that up.

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>can get guns
The gun laws in Russia are way more restrictive than in majority of Europe, it tkaes years to own anything decent.

>love the intolerance for degeneracy over there
lmao

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Croatia.
20rd for pistols (2019 EU directive).
10rd for rifles (2019 EU directive).
No caliber restrictions.

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>mfw even croatia has applied this shit
>mfw the very core of the EU (ger) hasn't

wtf

germany is applying it in september, Zib is selling most of his 10+ mags at a discount because of it

>>Your country>Are high capacity magazines banned in your country?>Is .223 allowed?

Ireland
10 shit mags
223 is legal and a reasonably common option but most would choose either 270 or even 22lr over it as you either want to shoot deer or rabbit and its best at neither and a semi auto shotgun would be preferred as a general use/home defence gun, so its a niche round and mainly used in e.g cz 527s 303 would be preferred by people who want a mil rifle and they would rather an enfield to an ar. Its a fairly shit round really

>>Your country
France
>>Are high capacity magazines banned in your country?
No.
>>Is .223 allowed?
Yes, but you gotta go through backround checks to buy it.

Finland

No

Yes

High capacity magazines have been banned since 2012, and yes, more than 30 rounds is considered high capacity.

Hey there from France, didn't know you didn't have any barrel length or oal restrictions. Sadly, we're also going to get fucked by the EU directive. I hope the EU Parliament burns in hell someday.

It will

If i understand correctly ALL EU countries will have to comply. However, countries have the option to permit 30rd magazines for sports shooters only. Croatia just chose not to. Faggots. This Zib guy shouldn't sell the mags, just hide them. Alternatively, you can have the gunsmith cap them to 10rd, and you can easily remove the limit in case of SHTF.

Slovakia
No (not yet, legislation in process due to EU directive, but it should be bypassable with sport licences and grandfathering)
Yes (S&B 0,31euro/round)

no one really gives a fuck about mags here anyway, its pressure bearing parts like barrels and bolts, reloading components that matter under the law, old milsurp mags for aks or ars are more militaria collectables are sold with deact guns intact. they are not that interesting
t.irish

Yep no idea how Belgium will implement it yet. Hopefully they don't forget to allow sport shooters but in anycase i'm stocking up on mags now

Skulle inte tro det Jonte

Go ahead kid, move to glorious mother Russia. It's not like there is an entire mail order bride industry to help individuals escape to the west.

If anything the EU laws on things like defining antiques at e.g 1890 and black power shooting will make things better in some places as places like France, Hungary, Finland, Czech etc have big shooting communities and the EU has to make a common standard and that's going to be if anything an improvement to places like Ireland which have shit law on these things. The worst is the mainland UK and that's nothing to do with the EU. The bongs were the ones pushing for more gun laws and laws on knives and edged weapons and tools constantly in the EU and with them gone things will be better

t. Vet ingenting

Magasin är ju inte ens reglerade här, vem som helst kan köpa dem, .223 är jäkligt vanligt att jaga med och jag har själv skjutit AR-15 is Sverige.

>I'm considering mother russia as a possible place to escape the rapid degradation of our western society. I like the culture, don't mind the cold, can get guns, and love the intolerance for degeneracy over there.

t.bong

Oh, didn't really know that. I thought 30rd mags were considered high caps, so I though they were allowed since we can easily buy some. Guess I was wrong. We're all going to get fucked anyway, the govt never listened to any of the pro-firearm owner organizations, so neither ARPAC nor David Douillet could save us now. We need to rise up against that ridiculous phobia and hysteria against firearms and their owners in France and the whole of Europe. We need to explain, educate and prove the people that the media is just in favor of all of the left leaning political partys and the govt and that they don't want the civilians to hold any form of power that could give them any type of advantage

Spaniard here.
We're fucked.
Yes, all EU countries will have to comply, but the EU gives some kind of freedom to the nations to implement the directive on different ways; example, here on Spain instead of just banning mags, they are banning them and CONFISCATING the mags that we currently own, to destroy them.
So, we cant really stack because then the fucking police will literally knock at our doors and confiscate our mags. And it doesn't seem like they will allow them for sport shooters anyway. How the fuck am i going to compete on IPSC (shooting sport that requires high capacity magazines) with shitty 10 round mags? how the fuck are we supposed to compete with foreigners that have high capacity mags then AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

They also are treating airsoft and paintball guns as fucking fire guns, ffs

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France has a thriving shooting scene, great ranges, good clubs and fairly high ownership and a large number of collectors and appreciators of antique arms too

Lmao, this must be bait.

did you have to register your mags before the directive ?

>but the EU gives some kind of freedom to the nations to implement the directive on different ways

Yes but this is spome national gverments being authoritarian not down to the EU. The bongs blame the EU but all the shit with guns there is to do with the bongs themselves not the eu e.g handgun bans

>did you have to register your mags before the directive ?

You can't 'register' mags as they don't have a registration number, barrels do.

how will they take them away then ? Since they don't know you have them ?

The armories keep some shitty kind of registry i think. Also, i could buy them and stack them, but then when the directive applies, i'll be in possesion of illegal shit and if some day the pigs search home and find a fucking 100 round mag they'll accuse me of weapon trafficking

It won't get better. The EU is cucking us more and more until we got no power left to decide what to do. That's what our elders voted for, and that's what we get in return for giving a single small entity a huge political power over half a continent. Lesson of the century: never give your political power nor your sovereignty to a small group of (((people))).

Why do i want high capacity mags if i its not legal to use them? the thing is, sport shooting wont be the same without these mags (spain)

>how will they take them away then ? Since they don't know you have them ?

Like I say they are sold as novelties and with deacts. It won't matter unless you are caught with one, ammunition and a firearm that utilises it being naughty

Seriously, why the fuck is Jow Forums like this?

t. russo-realist

>Your country
U.K
>Are high capacity magazines banned in your country?
YES
>Is .223 allowed?
NO
>ARE SPORKS ALLOWED?
ONLY WITH A LIOOOENSCE M8, BIN THAT KNOIFE M8

Yeah, but all of that will disappear. It's just a matter of time, you'll see. There will be restrictions year by year, and many of us yuros will just say "oh now they banned this but atleast we still have that" but then you will realise that they're just fucking us over, but they're just going the slow and soft way so we don't notice until it's too late.

Yeah sure bong. The EU did not ban handguns and your government was at the heart of pushing for gun control EU wide. You're gone now. Things will improve.

Just in case

That's not true in all european countries

It depend. Right outside of Omsk you may own fun. I have some generic hunting rifle and also two makarov.

>things will improve
>implying the current people in charge at Brussels wont push for more bans on weapons
nibba
they're no different

I'm french you dickwad. I've been talking about the state of France on firearm legislation since the beginning of the thread, how did you just assume I was a brit? Brits aren't even europeans, at least for me, they're all dicksuckers that begged to be anally raped by their govt since the beginning.

So no AK, AR, modern pistols ?

The EU needs common law on e.g what an antique arm is. This alone will be an improvement in may countries as will proper definition of laws for muzzleloaders, allowing reloading components etc. It will be nice to place orders with French or Czech gunstores for items without bullshit. The EU laws on bringing your guns from country to country are actually pretty based compared to the utter bullshit from national governments and their reams of national paperwork

You will have the SBR laws. You actually caused them. The new restriction specifies no rifles under 600mm. Its specifically to ban yugo M92's that were used in multiple terrorist attacks including charlie hebdo. On the bright side, because AR15's have a fixed collapsible stock, you will be able to go down to 9" barrels before its considered a short rifle. Then you can buy an aftermarket folding stock adapter for all your terrorist needs. Until someone produces an M92/AK74u with a fixed stock, those will remain banned.

Yes but that has changed now. They specified in the law (for croatia) that any 30rd mags found will be confiscated along with the rifle. So the solution is to burry 30rd and buy new 10rd for the range.

Yes, good idea. In some places they said that owning 30rd will not be illegal, just "inserting" them into the rifle is a crime. LOL.

>I'm french you dickwad. I've been talking about the state of France on firearm legislation since the beginning of the thread, how did you just assume I was a brit? Brits aren't even europeans, at least for me, they're all dicksuckers that begged to be anally raped by their govt since the beginning.

Ah dickwad yourself. The bongs obsession with banning guns EU wide has been cancer from. With them gone it is bound to improve. They wanted everywhere to be like bongland with almost zero legal arms or self defense.

Mate, everyone will have the SBR laws, and how did we caused them? Sauce on that?

I believe you can own them but I have not the money to do so at the moment. My friend has svd, i assume easy to own because mags for them are only 10rd

It won't improve, you can count on that. Even with the UK out of the EU, they still got their influencers in the Parliament, and the brits tactics to quit the EU is to basically get rid of all the taxes and bad stuff but still have all the benefits they gained by being a member of the EU. We need to kick em out for good and let them fuck themselves alone.

Before this directive, here at Spain it was legal to own high capacity mags but it was not legal to reload a rifle with them lol. You can only shoot with 2 bullets on the mag

But now even just owning a high mag will be forbidden lol

That's what our elders voted for, enjoy the shitshow.

>they are banning them and CONFISCATING the mags that we currently own
>So, we cant really stack because then the fucking police will literally knock at our doors and confiscate our mags.
Unless you have a mag registry, they literally can't prove you have any mags, especially if you bought them with cash in the store (as you should with anything gun-related).

>no officer, I don't have them anymore, I sold them, no I don't remember to whom
>no officer, I already destroyed/thrown away my mags because of wear/for shits and giggles/whatever
Even better if you actually give them a mag or two while keeping the other 10 hidden somewhere.

>inb4 why have mags if they are illegal
Because you never know and there's no reason not to. There might be shooting ranges that turn a blind eye on them. You can still larp with them at home. You can still use them in case SHTF. They might become legal again. Someone might be willing to buy one at a good price. Or just as a middle finger to the retarded law. Stock on mags right now.

>CONFISCATING
You know what to do Spain
Make Franco proud

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The bongs were pushing for ALL antique cartridge guns to be banned or deactivated, handguns and reloading even mussleloading constantly trying to drag the EU laws down to whatever madness they had cooked up domestically. They have basically eliminated self dense there to whereas France and Ireland have fairly decent laws on shooting scum e.g trying to rob a farmhouse at night with threats of violence

>Make Franco proud

Franco whatever his merits was an authoritarian who was very into controlling firearms

I don't have the sauce as i read it 3 months ago, but basically if you check what rifles are affected by the 60cm ban, its M92 and AK74U. And those have been used in Islamic terror attacks, including CH. And Mexican cartels have said those are the most sought after rifles by them. They have a bunch of nicknames for them. It makes sense why they would use them. Rifle power, capacity and accuracy, but concealable under a jacket for the trip from the car to the target building. Its also why every prepper on Jow Forumsloves them. So now we enter the age of AR since they circumvent that law, and you can quickly disassemble them in half.

That's why we need to get rid of them for good. They aren't worth jack shit with their royal grandma that they love to pay taxes each month to feed.

As long as getting rid of them does not fuck up people in Ireland next to the only land border, then fine. Of all the nations in the continent they have the worst attitude to guns ,self defence and weapons.

> France and Ireland have fairly decent laws on shooting scum

No we don't. In France if you shoot a robber you'll get jailed and your guns confiscated. You can only use self defense if you got a B Category SPECIFICALLY FOR SELF DEFENSE which happens extremely rarely because they only allow people with high security risk jobs like a bank van driver to get these. Meanwhile a normal B Category licensed shooter and firearm owner can't use his weapons under self defense or any other means, which is ridiculous.

I though you had some law where as if it was after dark you could shoot an intruder/housebreaker?

Ireland could've pulled out of the kingdom multiple times, they didn't, too bad for them. Even though the only time where they really rebelled against their handlers, it was the IRA, and most of it (not all) was full of communist scum.

In fact you can have hi cap mags in Spain, but as i said, you cant bring them for hunting. Even pump action shotguns have to be mechanically limited in rounds while hunting.

I'll need to check on that one.

And aren't sprays and rubber bullet guns sold all over France as well to anyone 18+? My mother had a friend in france an old Breton granny and she kept a loaded side by side under her bed asfter her husband died as she lived in an isolated old farm house?

In belgium if someone breaks into your house at night it counts by default as an attack on your life. But if it can be proven you had no reason to feel at risk then you can still risk problems. Like if the dude had no weapon and immediatly ran away and you him in the back for exemple.

>you cant bring them for hunting.

That's to do with game preservation, they have a three shot limiter rule in a lot of places to stop people doing commercial style harvesting on migrating birds.

LOL what? How is the government confiscating mags they dont know we have? Mags are not registered in Spain.

And spanish judges are not issuing search warrants without strong evidence of criminal activity, thats for sure.

Oh yeah, gomme-cogne, sprays, tazers and knives are allowed for SD, but you can't use real ammunition, even though you should be able to, but the govt don't want.

>home gets searched for whatever random reason (not related to guns)
>cops find a 100 round drum
wat do

>In belgium if someone breaks into your house at night it counts by default as an attack on your life. But if it can be proven you had no reason to feel at risk then you can still risk problems. Like if the dude had no weapon and immediatly ran away and you him in the back for exemple.

Basically the same here in Ireland. you have no obligation to retreat on your own property but you can't shoot e.g. door to door salesmen and you have to give grounds on why your use of lethal force was reasonable. In the end of the day if you shoot someone breaking into your house at night no one will care. There was a case here where a farmer shot someone basically who was a career criminal stealing with threats and put another round into his neck after he was down and the existing law meant he was obliged to retreat so he was given a short sentence and the government here changed the law to facilitate self defence more with no obligation to retreat on your own property and right to use lethal force including legally held guns

They are asking for confiscation.
They want to destroy the mags

before this you had to prove you could not retreat and your only option was lethal force

>They are asking for confiscation.They want to destroy the mags

Is that not more to do with your Catalonia situation and national government than the EU? Not wanting a rerun of ETA?

Nice

Hide them better, it's really not that hard.

Searched for whatever random reason? What are you up to mate?? Home searches in Spain are very rare and always linked to serious crimes and strong evidence. That we have right still.

Anyway why'd you want the mags if you can't use them (even capped)

>>Even ar-15s are available if you really want them

Are you implying that they are more dangerous than anything else that shoots.223

See

I think he's implying they tend to be restricted in particular.

Real thing is that in Spain you cant carry a loaded gun out except while hunting or if you have a ultrarare conceal carry license.

And all your guns must be unloaded even at home, and in a certified safe.

Thats the thing, using firearms to defend yourself is de facto prohibited. Limiting mags would be a minor issue.