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Mk16.
MK4 IS FINE

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>buying Geissele and not Midwest Industries

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>mk4 is fine

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Please explain why Bill is going to jail for making shit rails

Can someone explain this meme to me? I don't really follow this general, and all I know is some brand of rail got dropped and people started freaking out.

>I can't post here regularly because my AR would get me bullied to the extreme

>1,250 Lumens
I don't think I need or want that much output. My house has white walls.

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Post AR

ok retard

No. It's still subject to the same issues

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Not an awful budget gun

According to the bend test the kmr bent less. So the mcmr is better.

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It's a Colt AR15A4 I keep in the closet, but I guess I'm out now. Pls don't bully me too hard

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It's still going to bend more than a ris ii. Shouldnt their next rail be an improvement?

Just a colt 6920 that I have been swapping shit out on here and there. Next up is a new trigger.

>buying MI period
Enjoy your glue rail

>Shouldnt their next rail be an improvement
Urx 4 then

Bill bribing government officials
Misrepresenting products
Suing everyone who complains

So besides their triggers, do all other Geissele products have the mark of Cain now?

>trusting cast triggers

Proof they are cast?

>buy an SLR
>almost immediately after, the videos about paint bubbling off come out
>buy Geissele products
>turns out the rails bend

I get the feeling like some malevolent entity is turning any firearm product I buy to shit.

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>proprietary tools
No thanks, not until KAC creates a sensible mounting solution

welcome to /arg/

Circled areas are casting marks
Casting triggers is military spec but there is no excuse to cast them if youre charging $240 for a trigger. The MBT is $87 and cut from solid steel.

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Colt is overpriced but better than poverty-tier. Detachable carry handle sights are gey as fugg but otherwise it's a nice looking gat.
7/10 would put my projectile in the breech repeatedly.

I got my MK4 right as bendgate came to light.

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How are you coping?

Then I bought another one because it wasn't a MK16.

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Urx4 comes with the wrench, but you could probably use a strap wrench to install.

I understand that it comes with a wrench, it just doesn't make sense to use form a logistics standpoint.

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>it just doesn't make sense to use form a logistics standpoint.
What cope is this?
The rail comes with a barrel wrench, if you buy 10 rails you will have 10 wrenches which is arguably superior to using the same wrench for 10 rifles.
>Logistics
You dont have enough ARs or locations for this to be an issue, stop being a fuck

We're talking about what is going to replace the MK16 for the Army dickbrain

By generally not giving a shit. I enjoy the memes and shitposting that have come of it.

But if you don't think about your poor decisions then you'll never learn from them.

I know those are unfinished machining marks but it looks kinda sexy ngl.

Of all the things to worry about, armorer wrenches is pretty fucking minor

I just have a hard time seeing them go with anything that doesn't utilize a standard amorer wrench. I could be wrong, but I have doubts.

Yeah, cause no one has mirrors, glass 'n sheiiit in their house, anything over 600 lumens for indoor use is fucking retarded

>Poor decisions
I didn't buy a URGI or anything. The MK4 is a sturdier rail than the Mk16, and I'm not relying on it to retain zero for a MAWL or anything.

Beams and can when?

Owl vs m600df

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>The MK4 is a sturdier rail
It's no RAS tho
>I'm not relying on it to retain zero for a MAWL or anything
Don't you wanna operate?

But there's literally nothing wrong with that part being cast.
You "billet" autists are the worst.

What's the source on this bend test shit?

I'm just hearing about it.

>But there's literally nothing wrong with that part being cast.
>he wouldn't rather have a higher quality trigg
I mean if paying more and getting less is your thing, you do you

There used to be a thread on arfcom discussing and showing exactly what happened. Now its randomly vanished :thinking:
Did you even read the post or look at the picture and be angry?

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hahaha Bill actually had arfcom delete the thread after locking it and calling it a cesspool.

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Trip on OrangeCat you cat fucker.

I'm just saying, if you had a FF RAS this wouldn't be an issue.

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So is mlok pretty much entirely btfo'd? What will be the new /arg/ rail?

Are you implying cast is going to be as robust as plate steel?

Trying to get a free float for my dpms 308. Thoughts were either guiselee or Midwest but anyone have any suggestions?

>Inb4 Google it faggot
I have it's just I want other opinions because I don't feel like I'm very knowledgeable on the subject.

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>*Blank* is overpriced, but better than poverty tier. Congratulations you're a fucking faggot who needs punched in the face like the rest of the retards here. Literally described the diminishing returns that is spending thousands on rails and lowers.

But LaRue rails are even stronger than a FF RAS
Also RAS > FF RAS

Post your AR.

Mlok is fine
G a shit

>It's no RAS tho
>Don't you wanna operate
Not really, I do 2 gun action shooting and the MK4 will take more than any abuse I'll put it through.

7075 mlok is still alive and well

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Guislee doesnt make 308AR rails though

KAC URX 4, LMT monolithic upper, larue quad and MCMR all deflected significantly less than the Mk16. So those are all fine choices. Just avoid bill products

Bill is just going to pretend none of this ever happened. He promised to "look into it" during the holidays and rather than showing up with facts he has spent his time suppressing the truth. Very telling!
Larue LAT has potential to be a really nice rail, I wish he would post the weight of it.

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>proprietary barrels
no ty

What stock do you like of those two? Gunfighter or mod 0 with cheekrisers?

Can you post your AR?

I've heard of the KMR and MCMR denting fairly easily so I wouldn't put it up there with the others.

I actually really like the LAT and I'm tempted to get one.

Owl when?

Magnesium KMR != KMR-A/MCMR

Because barrels are replaced so often

I bought one of the $69 Aim sports mlok rails which were the same style that Faxon and one other company (odin?) were selling at one point. Not hanging any extra shit off of it just wanted free float and bipod mount.
Only downside is it looks like poverty. Werks fine.
The DPMS is a used one someone took apart and lost half the pins/springs to so I bought it off him for $200 because he was too stupid to realize the parts needed were less than $20 shipped. Replaced the parts from one of the 10 or so LPK sets I had and put an adjustable gas block on it, shoots nice, will put a rainier arms barrel match barrel on it one day.

Well LMT doesnt use CHF barrels so

>Larue LAT has potential to be a really nice rail
I don't understand why LaRue rails don't get any love here anymore. Their mounting system is fucking solid. The LAT looks like it's one of if not the most bombproof mlok rail available.

Don't get me wrong Geissele is definitely overpriced.
My point was that one cut from larger stock

Chrome lined, button broached
They last a long time and are quite accurate

Fuck.
My point was that one cut from larger stock is not inherently better in any way than a cast part.

Correct.

Of course, it entirely depends on the casting process, the steel grade, and the way it's treated. Same goes for the machined component honestly. Cast vs. Machined makes no statement about hardness or quality on its own.

>cast is just as good as precision machined s7 tool steel
Yeah, no

You know nothing about manufacturing.

Yeah I see people bitching about them all the time, for $200 I can get a rail and a trigger, I'm about to say fuck it and try it, what's the worst that will happen..

>t. texas boi inb4 shill

Again though, I don't want a proprietary barrel. If you want one then that's fine. I won't judge your poor choices.

Are they bitching about the rails or about Mark being a dick?

>LMT
>Poor choice.

lel, okay kid.

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Because they have not released any modern rails until very recently

The justasgoodas is strong

>button broached proprietary rails
oof

Only takes a bit of glue to get it stuck in your mom :^) didn't even have to pay Geissele for it

>chrome lined button cut
>last a long time
Pick one
When actually shooting that it will be burnt in 10-20k rounds depending on firing schedule and then you get to buy another proprietary barrel.