In what sort of conflict will USA be pushed from the throne of World Hegemon? Given the nukes are in play...

In what sort of conflict will USA be pushed from the throne of World Hegemon? Given the nukes are in play. Bo empire ever went quietly.

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Economic collapse

we will go quietly.

>[no] empire ever went quietly.

I think you'll find many of them did.

British, French, Spanish, Prussian, Hungarian, Yuan Dynasty.

There are no doubt more examples but they are the ones i know of.

It will be in a number of small conflicts across the globe. Look at Syria as an example. The US tried taking advantage of the unrest to execute regime change, but was out maneuvered by Iran and Russia, and now the those countries are stronger than ever while the US has a bloody nose. More conflicts like that, even diplomatic ones, will weaken the US severely. Say for example, Korea reunifies under a deal which sees US troops leave the country, or Maduro maintains power in Venezuela, etc. Basically it will just be a series of proxy conflicts that will gradually grind down US influence to the benefit of Russia, China, and local powers like Iran.

>Russia
>Iran
>Stronger than ever
I hope you're only being retarded ironically

Is this some alternate reality? I know British and French left a bloody swath behind them. British were broken by TWO! world wars! What is Dien Bien Phu? FFS.

>when you WIN not one (1) but two (2) world wars but still fuck up so hard you lose your empire maybe you should reconsider both world wars and what you fought them for

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WW2 was ok but WW1 was a mistake. Pretty much fucked up the balance of ideologies and the world

ww1 was unironically the doing of british financial elite and america got 9/11ed into joining

In the case of Iran they are definitely at a high point. They have troops in Syria, Iraq and Yemen (probably). Russia today is more powerful than at any time since 1991. Both of them regularly stand up to the US, out maneuver and embarrass them, etc. Even North Korea managed to successfully develop nukes and the US couldn’t do jack shit. Consequentially the US is the weakest they’ve been since the Cold War ended.

WW1 happened because Britain and France owned the world and Germany wanted it. All other issues were minor by comparison, and mostly just used as pretexts.

If the US ever does lose its power then it would likely be a very very long chain of receding losses. Military conflicts wouldn't have as much of an impact as economic conditions would. The only way the US could lose its power in conflict would be a nuclear war.

>American education

I know. They did everything to get America to join the war and to stay relevant.

Neither of those countries are in any way at a "high point". They're both international pariahs (less so admittedly with Iran, but still) with massive social issues and failing economies that exist because of one resource. The only country that could possible actually stand up to the US is China, and that's a hypothetical for now.

Civil war and Balkanization

>Neither of those countries are in any way at a "high point". They're both international pariahs (less so admittedly with Iran, but still) with massive social issues and failing economies that exist because of one resource.
I'm speaking relatively, and purely in terms of their capability to impose themselves outside of their own borders. Obviously they both have major issues, but Russia's military power and their actual influence over their neighbors and allies is greater now than at any point since the collapse of the USSR. The same goes for Iran.
>The only country that could possible actually stand up to the US is China, and that's a hypothetical for now.
You say that, but both Iran and Russia stood up to the US in Syria. Russia also continues to defy Western interests in Ukraine, while Iran does the same in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon. "Standing up" to the US doesn't necessarily imply direct or large scale confrontation. It just means the ability to successfully protect their interests and deny the US from doing the same. Obviously this is all on a limited, regional scale atm, but even that is far more than either country has been able to accomplish in the past few decades.

>only knows history through memes
You’re retarded

Meme

This. Idk in what world the Suez Crisis, Indochina and Algerian Wars constitute "dying quietly" on the part of France.

They’re not back at Soviet level, but you can’t deny Putin has done a good job at pulling Russia out of a shithole and actually growing influence again

I agree. Dude's probably a nunce. I understand that having WWII as a backdrop makes shit like Indochina, the Suez Crisis, and all that shit look like pocket change, but all of it is still quite extensive.

>I'm speaking relatively, and purely in terms of their capability to impose themselves outside of their own borders
They cannot really afford it. Russia's military is growing more obsolete every year and new hardware hasn't materialized, to say nothing of their demographic issues. In terms of influence not really. It was just a few years ago that countries were open to having actual relationships with Russia, now their neighbors (minus Belarus but that barely counts as an independent country) are scrambling for NATO.
>You say that, but both Iran and Russia stood up to the US in Syria
It cost them a shitton and they got very little out of it. Ditto for Iran's adventure with the Houthis, who are about to lose in Yemen.
>but you can’t deny Putin has done a good job at pulling Russia out of a shithole and actually growing influence again
He rode a commodities boom to undeserved success and turned Russia into an international pariah. They are not growing influence, they're losing it.

Mass gender switching

>Biggest exporter, second biggest steel producer, biggest weapon producer, highest amount of patents at the time, better and more profitable colonies than France and the UK (especially in China), Virtually no debt, monopolized the chemical industry etc.
WW1 was literally a war made to stop Germany. France was a dying and old nation, Britain in heavy debt because of the Anglo German naval race. By 1913 France also was in heavy debt because of their uparmament program and funding 80% of the Russian army. Colonies weren’t relevant since 1907 because of the social democracts so there really isn’t that much to want.

>WW1 was literally a war made to stop Germany.
That's what I said.
>Colonies weren’t relevant since 1907 because of the social democracts so there really isn’t that much to want.
That's why the British and French didn't bother taking away Germany's colonies after the war I guess. Even if you want to say colonies specifically weren't the issue, its pretty clear that the main reason for the war was that Germany was threatening to unseat France and especially Britain as the dominant world power.

The world will only hear a whisper,
while we tear ourselves apart from the inside.

Russia today would definitely beat the Russia 1916!

Yet still completely russian.