What is the best weapon for stopping a school shooter? Know that there is no "wait for the police to arrive". Each shot that happens is probably going to be a dead kid, and the shooter is probably going to grease himself long before the LEO hauls his ass down over there, assuming he doesn't just "set up a perimeter" when he arrives while they wait for SWAT.
The assumptions are that that you have been able to retrieve the weapon somehow. Maybe it was in your car when the shooting started. You must also take into account that there are loads of screaming kids running in every direction, and more than likely when the cops *do* arrive, they're going to see that you have a gun and might smoke you. So safe re-concealment of the weapon is a factor.
>be me >be high school vice principal, Gulf War vet >keep a loaded M1911 in the modified dashboard of my car ever since Sandy Hook in case some lone nut or the government false flaggers try to pull some shit
I have no idea whether those Alex Jones conspiracy memes have any truth to them or not, but I'm not taking any chances.
The only reason I don't keep it in my office is because I don't a student getting ahold of it.
Best weapon is hiding behind impenetrable doors. Being ambushed in a public area is difficult to avoid, but being able to hide as many people as possible is better than nothing. Priority should be figuring out why some people feel the urge to shoot up schools. Watching the Cruz interaction with his big brother shortly after the attack (Youtube) was just fucking sad. He was a very stupid kid, who did a horrible thing, and it seemed like he just lacked the feeling of being loved. Because of that, for some reason he decided the solution is to shoot people? That made no sense.
Jaxson Gonzalez
make those fucking meme school resource officers actually sit there all day and do police things when shit happens.
Fucking seems anytime shit happens those fuckers vanish,
meme aside, something other than a 20 foot fence that is left open anyway and guarded by some fat shit in a golf cart.
Schools have locked down "all" entrances but still leave the front door wide open.
Robert Ward
Pretty much
Christian Richardson
Vengeance to a world that they feel has wronged them and deprived them of something that no one should be deprived of, also envy i think Just my guess
Daniel King
A woman willing to fuck them
David Cook
Do school resource officers even know what to do if they hear gunshots?
>School Shooting Defense Hide in a corner with a pencil or pen at the ready and hope you can get the jump on them otherwise your most likely fucked. I guess you could give your child an armor plated back pack which could be used to run away with under sustained fire if your lucky not to get hit any where outside of it's protection but then you'd be THAT PARENT that has their child lug around an armored plated bag plus all their utilities.
Also this >I have no idea whether those Alex Jones conspiracy memes have any truth to them or not Same, I'm wary to take a snake oil merchant/male vitality seller who believes Satanic aliens exist seriously but some weird shit was going on non the less in the hook.
>”Nigga, I’m here to BE AWAY from all the shooting and shit on the streets. If shit ever jumps off in this muthafucka you’re free to play hero while I go home and dust off my resume.”
Justin Bell
This shouldn't be funny, but I can hear the voice in my head and I nearly choked on my goddamn burrito.
>What is the best weapon for stopping a school shooter?
Armed teachers. School shooters are such cowards that they almost always suicide instead of confronting an armed opponent. The very fact that the teachers might be armed will prevent most school shootings.
Ryder Cooper
What if a teacher goes crazy?
Jaxson Parker
Then the other teachers shoot them ez
Mason Mitchell
The solution is armed students.
Jaxon Moore
School shooters are cowards. Take a fucking cap gun. Once they encounter resistance they kill themselves Or if they don't they bunker down and stop killing children. Literally all you have to do is shoot at them
Nolan Roberts
Gun ban would stop school shootings. It would become impossible for psychotic edgelord teens to get guns.
Parker Jones
>Teacher gets into argument with student. >Student reaches into his desk >Teach pulls gun >Student 1's friend pulls gun, shoots at teacher >Teacher starts firing >Teachers pet starts firing >Other students join >Students and teacher in adjoining classroom fire through the walls >Half the school is dead >Student 1 puts the note from his parents back into his bullet riddled and bloodstained desk, pulls his gun and shoots himself
Chase Morris
This. There is no real solution, only best practices. School shootings have always been a thing, but drastically increased in events and severity as rights have been taken away and people stopped being taught about weaponry en masse. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
When you can not be publicly educated due to concerns like these, you have no right to public education.
Ryan Jackson
>this bait
Julian Clark
Then the other half of the student body will be hardened for the next stage of life
Benjamin Kelly
Kill the teachers, guidance counselors and administrators before they make more school shooters user
Aiden White
You do the exact opposite of what your school tells you to do. You hunker down in your class room and work out a plan with your fellow operator-tier class mates that if someone enters the classroom the agreement is that you all bum rush them. One or two of you will die but the rest of you can overpower them, take the weapon and stick it up their ass before pulling the trigger.
Nolan Myers
Which person in that scenario shouldnt be allowed in public education?
Matthew Cook
Come over here and bring a bunch of people you know and let me kill them in front of you to make you tougher
Austin Jones
None of them. Going for a gun solely because of a verbal disagreement is illegal. Going for a gun without established threat is illegal. All the rest who catch themselves up in the utterly retarded scenario are too fucking retarded to be educated anyway.
Robert Rogers
a glock in ur backpack dummy. just pop the lil fag
Levi Powell
Student 1 didnt go for a gun, but Teacher reacted in a high stress situation, where he knew the student was armed. If a cop knew i was armed, and i was yelling at him, then i reached in my coat, you telling me he wouldnt shoot? He would wait for me to pull the gun all the way out and hope that his reaction to the sight was faster than me pulling the trigger? Student 2 saw his friend being threatened by an angry teacher and reacted, somewhat irrationally yes, but Student 2 is a teenager with hormones rushing about. When a bunch of people start shooting next to you, and you have a gun, as if your reaction isnt going to be "shoot at them while trying to escape"
Wyatt Mitchell
I keep a glock 17 in my bag on campus and the only reason I'll ever pull it out is if a bullied nerd is shooting the place up
Robert Morales
pretty gud or just carry a glock
Grayson Flores
Most school shooters arent actually the autistic nerd that snaps though.
Jacob Bailey
glock gang. watch out nerds
John Parker
>everyone has a desk that doubles as a gun shield >just pop up the cover and youre good to go >teacher has a panic button that flashbangs the classroom
Angel Allen
be inna gender studies class hear that thing go skraaa oh boy time to operate.png pull out glock brand heater skadoodel out the class room see jimmothy lanza 4 other anons pull out glock brand glock ventilate him go back to learning about boi pussi
Logan Peterson
>We are going to put gun shields in every classroom >And a panic flashbang in every classroom, along with a remote control delivery and detonation >To pay for this we will increase taxes
Those kids are dead mate
Dylan Diaz
A teacher who allows an argument to get to that point is a shitty teacher in the first place, and the student is a shitty student. Removal from a situation of that sort should be swift. Disciplinary action should be swift. You pretend as though allowing guns would automatically turn classrooms into the wild west, yet incidents were much less frequent and less severe when firearms were regularly available and visible. The wild west is primarily a meme about rural areas where law was not enforced by citizenry nor institution. They didn't have a whole lot of schooling, either. I wonder why that may be, how about you?
Ian Taylor
What point? The point of anger? You think any teacher has the power to control students well enough that they wont be angry? Shitty students are endemic. Every single class i have ever taught has at least 2 usually 5-7. You know what else though? about 90% of the kids i've taught have had bad days. Days where nothing gets through, nothing matters. Because they are goddamn teenagers and being kinda shitty is inherent to the condition. Obviously yelling back is bad teaching, but my god the amount of bad teachers in the world is shocking. You want to fix that, increase the education budget, which noone ever seems ok with. The wild west likely had lower instances of mass shootings for a huge amount of reasons, from the fact that revolvers had 6 bullets instead of 30, to the fact that mass media wasnt as big, so people who want infamy became long-term "outlaws" rather than flash in the pan mass shooters. Did you know we have fuckloads less serial killers nowadays? We started getting real good at catching them and they just stopped happening, but mass shooting incidents are on the rise compared to shooting violence overall, even though gun violence is declining. Basically, we had shittier guns and different ways for psychopaths to get their jollies.
But i do think i failed to communicate 1 thing.
I dont think this will happen in EVERY school if we brought in guns. But pretending that giving guns to a bunch of hormonal teenagers is a good idea is batshit crazy.
"thats a shitty student" for fucks sake, you have no idea about education at all
Zachary Wood
if students can afford their own guns they can afford their own gunshields
Hunter Long
The point to where the teacher thinks they need to pull a gun. You as a teacher have how many other options at how many different points of time? This has always been the case, even when firearms were truly and then practically unregulated. If you know your students have guns, your instinct ought not to be to pull a gun at slight distress. If you can't handle that, fuck you as your pretense as a teacher. That is why you have no right to public education. You, yourself, are deteriorating that right, and if you were a half-way decent person, you would remove yourself from such circumstance before you ever allowed it to get to that point. The same goes for students. You believe decent kids just pull a gun because a bad fucking day? That is the most idiotic thing I have heard in a long time. Are you beginning to understand this, yet? >increase the budget Throwing money at it doesn't fix it. Teachers do not get better because they get paid more. There are cases where that could work, but completely outside the teacher's union bullshit that breeds opinions such as yours. Allowing better teachers to get paid more is fine. Allowing teachers' unions to decide which teachers should get paid more is pants on head.
Julian Peterson
>IIIA that shits either gonna perforate the soft armor or the energy from the impact will knock it off whoever's holding it.
Aiden Perez
The best defense would be to FIX the damn problem America is having where kids are going nuts in the first place. No kids going nuts means no school shooter.
William Morales
Who cares about school shootings? You're 1000 times more likely to be murdered in some other way.
Angel Lewis
Considering public school budgets? .45 Hi-point carbine with hollowpoint rounds.
Gavin Gray
Reconstruct unifying social institutions on both local and national levels and reinstate monogamy norms? LOL not happening.
Benjamin Cook
Or let kids beat the shit out of eachother in the parking lot/playground instead of breaking it up and telling them to bottle that shit up. Maybe not punish the victim of bullying for physically defending themselves.
Lucas Green
Letting kids punch it out is honestly worth a psych study. IME physical fights can resolve animosity. They may not make you like someone, but you'll feel less aggressive for sure. There is the possibility of it backfiring though, scrawny kid unloads on bullies cause he's tired of getting the shit kicked out of him.
Oliver Watson
This. All my schools had that and we never had a single school shooter.
Carson Butler
>police things
Jeremiah Richardson
After giving some real thought first was a sawed down pumpy too much spread though might hit the screaming rag taglers, pistols are under powered to lvl2+ body armor carbines aren't very "reconsealable" same problem with full length rifles so you're left with two options use bullet proof desks and flash banging fire alarms while the teachers blows there rape whistles and more than likely die or use a ar/krinkov style pistol and hope fully smoke the fucker not hit anyone and have enough time to conseal said weapon as to not get shot by SWAT
Oh and we can't forget you will probably get sued by school for having a firearm in a "Gun Free Zone" (A place of voluntary helplessness) >pic related
If you’re not memeing that’s pretty sweet broski, but why not a Glock17 with a pistol brace or something like that for good defensive utility? Or is it just a vet thing for you to use a 1911
Aaron Robinson
~500 nuggets. give one to every kid in the school and lead a red army charge directly at the shooter
Dominic Young
What if a cop goes crazy? Or a soldier or an armed guard. Every single educator and student, old and young, should have to be firearm trained and be able quickly relay emergency info to others in a panic. every room should have a ready to use firearm in an emergency situation, or some kind of armed guard. Shit like this can be easily prevented and mitigated but the state won't do a damn thing about it.
Nicholas Ward
Make sure that the bayonets have rounded tips you wouldn't want the kids poking their eyes out.
>implying hi points aren’t literally the best semi auto defense rifles on a budget Rails for a flashlight, scope, grip, etc If you do have to defend yourself with it it’s going in a evidence locker for a bit or forever so you’re not losing your Gucci SCAR. only issue is the fact it has a proprietary single stack (10 rounder even for 9mm) but 20rounders are available.
Eat my butthole
T. Poorfag
Andrew Miller
Also install an emergency T-55 in every hallway, in case the shooter brings armour.
Luis Harris
I don't see how that would be backfiring. If scrawny can actually make use of the skills he picked up at the McDojo at the local strip mall then more power to him.
Luke Rogers
The best defense against school shootings is to not send your kids to school. Don't go there. It's FUBAR.
HOME SCHOOL YOUR KIDS. DO NOT SEND THEM TO PUBLIC SCHOOL.
It's atrocious. The country schools where it's only white people (and that one mulatto kid) is not bad. But when you get into a large metropolitan school, with black kids - and now Somalis, and Egyptians, and all of these other mystery meat mutants - but the black kids who want to rap and dance on the desks class, they're generally the worst. Most obnoxious shitheads. I love it when blacks shoot each other, they deserve it. I'm surprised there's not more shootings. You're sent to an institution, where the teachers are about as intelligent as the students (the smart teachers left a long time ago. They're the ones who retired, and your taxes are getting raised to pay for their pensions). All of these kids more than likely come from single mothers, were abused - neglect, verbally, sexually, physically, etcetera by god knows who. Their own mother, family members, the company their mother brings home. You're surrounded by all of these damaged kids - their adverse childhood experience scores are collectively astronomical. There is nothing you can do to save the "public education system" other than completely dismantling it. It's 40+ hours a week of wasted time. Homeschool your kids, even if it's only for 25 hours a week. They will end up being smarter than most college graduates.
Xavier Russell
You also don't want them getting stuck in the first shooter's ribcage.
Robert Watson
They could double as a detention room.
Lucas Collins
Actually, i was implying that they ARE the best semi-auto defense rifles on a budget.
Depends. What weapon is the shooter carrying? what is the best weapon for a school shooting?
Daniel Jackson
Planting CP on the principal's harddrive.
Aaron Diaz
I’m intelligent, my bad my negro
Isaiah Cruz
Claymores.
>Plant claymores inside lockers >Pull fire alarm >Set them off as large groups pass by
Easton Collins
Turn the entire school into one big TD game.
Gabriel Barnes
>claymores You mean just remote controlled explosives That's actually a good idea, we're lucky that school shooters are dumb and cant even think of something like this, instead they just use daddy's glock and kill 4 innocent kids just passing by
If you really wanted a high count you'd use bombing
Matthew Barnes
But user, the school shooter is most often killed by the school shooter
Christopher Garcia
shooters always have a list of targets they want to kill up close and personal. think about it, nobody rational would shoot up a school would they now
I get your point. I was implying that school shooters are "dumb" for not using the best method to kill a large number of people (because that is usually their end goal) and instead just using a gun to shoot 5 kids and then kill themselves. I mean, if you wanted to kill a large number of people you'd be smart (or rational) enough to realize that shooting up a school isn't the best option. But, what can you expect? They are not enough rational to realize this, because in the first place they want to commit mass murder, which is irrational itself.
Jonathan Gutierrez
Yeah, it's not the best method, but it's the only thing available to them. They do as much harm as they can with the available tools they have at the moment. They don't have access to nukes, that's why we don't see school nukings (lol).
Kayden Long
He had no legal duty to do shit as per Supreme Court rulings.
Easton Morales
>shooters always have a list of targets they want to kill up close and personal. you mean like a list of names and shit? that's usually not the case. they just shoot up randos
Isaac Stewart
This guy comes Naruto running down your school hallway. What do you do now?
I'm sure you all went to splendid highschools were everyone was responsible young adults but ngl if I heard gunshots in the middle of Physics class my first thought would be how to make sure the people I don't like get killed before I do.
Justin Kelly
Probably an SBS or a handgun in a big, heavy, slow cartridge to avoid overpenetration. All assuming this mentally unstable niwit didn't wear body armor of course.
Cameron Moore
This but unironically
Joseph Barnes
Same, but I'd probably just ditch out a window >lmao bye niggas have fun