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Handgun General - /hg/ - #263
Jonathan Gutierrez
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Colton Gonzalez
New acquisition. 1993 production, replaced the original grips with some VZs so they wouldn't get all dinged up.
Mason Powell
novelty of the pederson lock, I suppose but not really.
The design of the action is a unique type of delayed-blowback in which the cartridge casing and tilting breech-block act like a short-stroke piston upon the slide which then lifts the breech block up and open.
as you can imagine, almost no amount of engineering work can be done to make it function comfortably with 9mm+P, but Remington did give it the old college try. The original model 51 was intended as a premium competitor to the FN1910 as a small .32 ACP or .380Auto with reduced slide mass and recoil, which it accomplished well. You might think this same principle would scale up to higher pressures, but sadly no.
For all intents and purposes, the R51 is blowback, and a harsh one with insufficient slide mass at that. It needs to go back to the drawing board.
>tfw no updated model 51 in .380 or .32 with alloy frame and R51 aesthetic as a fantastic premium pocket pistol offering
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Mason Fisher
Think I'll do my LTC this weekend, Give me something to do at least.
Jacob Sanders
if you wanted a gun that you can shoot production IDPA and also carry all year round, is there any better option than a SIG P320 with an additional subcompact slide and frame set?
There's a certain autistic appeal to the idea...
Dylan Johnson
>tfw I don't own a sig
Kevin Johnson
I'm 19 now with a CCP and it's legal to own a handgun if it's gifted to me
Eli Ward
or if I buy it privately
Evan Wright
So the final word on the P365 is that they are lemons right?
Jace Garcia
After many instances of it failing on people, even Sigs reps, I would say so.
Asher Collins
Is the idea of an "offensive handgun" an outdated at best, and utterly moronic at worst, idea?
Samuel Roberts
BURT WHEN IS SIG GOING TO RELEASE A MILITARY MODEL OF THE P210
Parker Long
It's a sexy idea, if you wanted to know.
I'd lean more towards outdated, not so much moronic. As certain people in the recent past have proved, you can very much accomplish a lot using a pistol offensively.
Liam Lee
I mean, if you can't carry a rifle, might as well CC a Mk23
Brandon Watson
I suppose if you're high speed low drag and don't need to worry about concealment, I can see the appeal of a high capacity .45 with a long barrel/slide for increased velocity and sight radius
Hudson Howard
Pt.1 of 2
Angel Hall
unless ur talking about ar pistols then yes
Tyler Ward
Pt.2 of 2
Jacob Wright
Do you know what lemon means?
No it's not a guaranteed "lemon."
It was always a stupid idea.
idk, I haven't even heard about the P210 Compact or Standard versions that they promised.
Joseph Evans
Read the screenshots, dipshits
Justin Wood
No.
Cooper Harris
Fuck you, cunt.
Michael Walker
I see it being viable for beat cops walking a patrol and as a backup for people who are otherwise not carrying a lot of ammo or a shotgun like a guy on a ship.
So yes, just to literally 0 of the people it was marketed to.
Jacob Hill
what should I look for in a concealed carry gun for my 5' 100lb girlfriend? she hasn't expressed any preference and I don't have much experience with handgats, being an AK guy.
leaning towards 9mm so we can get a PCC that shares food later, but not married to the caliber. budget is around 700 or less, but could spring for up to 1k for something super nice
Jacob Hill
From dipshits to retards
Its no wonder nobody takes this thread seriously. Between the noguns jackass posting misinformation and the faggots who refuse to learn and keep asking obvious retarded questions like you guys are a fucking joke. Even /gq/, as gay as it can be, isn’t this mediocre.
Grayson Reed
I've never concealed carried before, and the only pistol I own is a Star Model BM. I'd like to purchase a smaller pistol for CCW. Since it's Arizona and it's fucking hot, I want something small that I could carry even if I'm wearing chino shorts during the summer. If my body type changes anything, I'm 5'10, 175 pounds, my build is more muscular.
My budget is ~$650, preferring to not spend that whole amount on the gun itself so I can spend more on ammo. Any recommendations?
Jordan Barnes
What do you want me to do? Suck your dick? Repost your screencap every time someone asks about an "offensive handgun?" What they asked has a specific meaning pertaining to the general definition of "offensive." Get off your high horse you fucking loser.
Anthony Adams
Ruger Super Blackhawk 4.65” Barrel
Andrew Long
Should I get a 9mm sig, cz, hk, or beretta for suppressing. Leaning towards hk and cz.
Mason Cox
I don't have to read an autistic rant by a narcissistic nobody to know that the entire idea of an "offensive handgun," whatever the actual or your specific autistic definition is, is absolutely retarded top to bottom. Just like I don't need to read sixteen volumes by Jeff Cooper to know the idea of a scout rifle is retarded and I don't have to read now-disproved FBI tests to know that .40 S&W is retarded.
Wyatt Morgan
You don’t know what the concept is and why it exists. You want to stay ignorant and keep posting whatever bullshit comes to your ritalin-addled mind? Fine by me
You are literally no better than the noguns tripshit whiteknight. I wouldn’t be surprised that you’re noguns also. Enjoy your retarded, reddit tier hugbox.
Aiden King
And you don’t want to shoot your collection of guns, so what does your opinion matter? Pray that after your eventual heart attack that the feds don’t destroy every single one for facebook virtue signaling, you coward tripshit.
Elijah Foster
I went shooting twice this week bruh. Project elsewhere. You're not an opinion to be respected because you screencapped 4 paragraphs you typed once just like I'm not an opinion to be respected for any reason whatsoever. You're at least as worthless as me, probably more so.
Parker Cox
What you're trying to say is "offensive handgun" means taking out unsuspecting targets quietly, and not in a head on firefight. Yeah, I get it. No matter what your definition, it's still outdated especially considering we rifles and sub guns that do the same job the same I'd not better. Furthermore, when did Jow Forums generals become singularities of all knowledge of the topic? You shouldn't expect that from any source, and certainly not Jow Forums. Now fuck off.
Joshua Wood
Shut up and post handguns faggot.
Parker Green
you'll niggers calm down
David Sanders
Bruh your advice is wack bruh
Bruuuuuh those groups are fake af bruhhhhh
>You’re as worthless as me
Don’t project, nigger
Andrew Powell
>carrying an M4 or larger AND a subgun
Lmao what a fucking idiot
I did, retard
Post yours
Bentley Reed
You must be 18 to post on this site.
Brandon Stewart
have to ask your parents before going online
Adrian Sullivan
>use suppressed mp5 instead
>it does the same shit with the same level of noise
>even better, the entire team is carrying suppressed mp5s anyway so you don't need a designated dog and local shitting man to do it
Julian Miller
its almost like you didnt read the post, which doesnt surprise me
Heres a tip: the rest of the team isnt carrying mp5s
Aiden Jackson
>the entire team is carrying suppressed mp5s
That seems like a bad idea.
Mk23 is a fucking GOAT field pistol by da'whey
Jaxon Walker
Here's the tip: you're a 17 year old noguns armchair commando who knows shit all about anything.
Brandon Wilson
Told this story a few threads back but it got worse
>ordered my first handgun
>FFL gets it on a friday
>call him up quick to see if I can come get it
>"fridays are my busy days i'll be out of the office all day blah blah blah"
>finally monday, get to pick it up
>do all the BS
>transfer gets fucking delayed
>now have to wait like 3 or 5 days or something
>its been a full week since my FFL got it and I havent gotten it
Today was day three though and I swear to fucking god if I get the OK and he pulls the same shit about it being Friday a mfer gonna die
Justin Murphy
Still havent seen your fucking gun, retard
Even PBP agrees with me
Daniel Reed
Nambu my man
Tyler Reed
Looking to get into me first .45, help decide between:
>full size USP
>GI style 1911, probably Cimarron
Dark horse candidate that I can snag for $400:
>Ballester-Molina
What do?
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Is there any place with usp experts still in stock?
Daniel Young
Get a Sig 220 police trade in
Brayden Evans
>p220 trade ins
These exist?
Tyler Lee
Depending how rough they are that's pretty cheap for a good 45
Josiah Murphy
What should i get next?
Angel Green
Remove the magazine safety, ya dingus!
Hudson Foster
If your wheelie boi there is a 357 magnum then it's perfect already, otherwise get a 4 inch barrel gp100 in blued finish and you're gold.
Luis Richardson
Old smith boxes are sex
Hudson Thompson
I partly want a 5 screw pre model number 29 because the display boxes they came with were pretty neat
Jordan Price
Thats amazing
Michael Mitchell
Old S&W in general is sexy
Charles Torres
Model 13-1 my dude, 357.
Kevin Foster
Nice, with the fixed sights, smaller frame, and smaller ejector lug I couldn't tell if it was a 38 special like a model 10 or something.
I just haven't put much time in looking at or reading up on the smaller frame guns, I like N frames mostly and currently my only Smith is a 629.
Parker Reyes
I actually got it in a trade. Guy had no clue what model it was(dumb ass). Its been a great gun
Ethan Morris
I'm still running the old P250. Haven't upgraded to the 320 yet.
Luke Cox
reported to ATF, enjoy being a prohibited person
Austin Harris
Alright /hg/. I'm looking to get a new handgat. Here's what I've "narrowed" the list to. HK VP9, HK P30, Steyr A2 MF, and FN 509. I'd buy them all, but that's just not in the budget. Help me spend my money. (I've currently got 686+, 1851 Navy, LCP II, PP, CZ 75, and a hilariously malfunctioning Star BM, so thus far no strikers.)
Jeremiah Rodriguez
509 or VP9, or the Steyr if you like that shitty grip angle and horrendous sights
Cameron Myers
I want to like the Steyr, but it has that stupid lock thing.
Brandon Davis
Just got me a vp40. Caliber memes aside I really like it, fits my hand the best out of almost any handgun I've held
Joseph Perez
Other than the fact that a new complete upper costs as much as a Shield/XDS/LCP2/LC9S?
Jaxson Martin
Without a stock/brace it's still a bad idea, especially compared to a USW or similar (Roni etc).
And once you start talking government agencies and military then the micro subguns and PDWs are much better while being similar in weight and/or bulk.
Oliver Reyes
Hk's have a lock too
Angel Hill
It's not integral with the frame though like the Steyr or the Hillary Hole on S&Ws, right?
Jonathan Howard
Hey /hg/, what's the heaviest gun you've hauled around all day? I shot a CZ75, and I've got the bug. But I want this for AIWB with a jacket, and so far I'm used to carrying a compact that only weighs 30oz fully loaded.
For comparison, the 75bd is what I'm looking at, but it's 35oz unloaded. Considering a full mag is probably another 10oz, that's going to be just shy of 3lbs. Anybody ever pull that off and not hate the gun by the end of the day? What belt did you use? I don't think my generic 1.5" leather belt is going to cut it here.
Another option is the sp-01 phantom, but that rail really spoils the classic 75 look, and I'd also be giving up a lot of weight in the grip when shooting longish strings. Still, if it's the difference between never carrying the gun, I'm willing to trade the recoil difference in an outlaw match.
Austin Bennett
Anthony Wilson
I have carried my SS P-01 all day long.
Over 40 ounces.
CC my Shadow 2.
Previous EDC was an alloy framed full sized Turk CZ clone, TriStar Canik L120 with Cajun innards and polish job.
CZ Sku 99041 is the all steel safety P-01.
A Canik P100 is a close clone.
My current EDC is a Sphinx Subcompact with a +2 extended magazine.
Cooper Allen
what does /hg/ think about Allegheny Arms custom Berettas? And what all needs done to aquire a pistol like the one in the pic I stole from a couple of editions ago? Do you need to start with a D model so they can add the safety?
Lincoln Williams
Question
What is the best threaded barrel / suppressor combo for a Glock 17?
Brandon Taylor
SiCo barrel, Rugged Obsidian 9
Ryder Murphy
I've been pretty happy with my SiCo barrel.
Jordan Bailey
Why are some USP slides some odd shade of purple and some, like this one, are the niggest? Whats the finish difference?
Austin Miller
>counter girl sick with flu
>stuck up front and not getting any work done
I am a bit surprised how much /hg/ slows down during business hours. I guess more of y'all are employed than the Jow Forums norm
Joshua Richardson
>business hours
I think you mean school hours
Cooper Phillips
I don’t like the 22X series ergos nor trigger. I should have mentioned I’d be doing the LEM or LEM-match trigger on the Hk. I already know I like that style of trigger pull from owning a DP51.
Sebastian Taylor
Mine is pretty new, and they used to feature a different finish.
Joshua Sullivan
Any word on when those new Hi-Point pistols are supposed to be for sale?
Grayson White
Buying a steyr l9 for carry and my first full size, any anons like them/ dislike them?
Christian Wood
Just picked it up from the lgs. Feels goodman.
Dylan Adams
Hey bort, what's the most obscure hg you have?
failing that what is your most fequently shot non big 3 calibre?
p.s love you bort.
Logan Evans
What is the heaviest g19-sized carry pistol I can find in DA/SA with decocker, replaceable front sights, available reduced weight hammer springs, and relatively wide availabilty so finding a good AIWB holster isn't an excercise in futility?
I would have loved an all steel 75 compact, but oops, no decocker option. Right now, best I've found is the Beretta PX4 and the CZ p-07. What other massive hunk of shit should I be looking for?
Christopher Ross
Jack Morales
Smiff 'n Wesson 5906
Logan Wood
Tell me about a Stoeger Cougar.
It sure looks a lot like a PX4.
Just handled a lightly used one for $300.
Extremely smooth slide and easy to rack.
Easy to rack is a must since it will be a bedside gun for my wife.
Handled a Kimber Evo also.
Tiny striker fired Kimber.
Camden Hughes
inb4 the dude with the mk23 posts the "fn is better" pic
Easton Rogers
>like 10mm auto but hate glock ergonomics and want more than 8+1 rounds
shot a friend's glock 20 and it was fun as fuck, but I couldn't see myself practicing with it because of the blocky ergo
Are there any 10mm pistols worth a damn that have more CZ or Walther-style grips?
Christian Sullivan
EAA (tangfolio) Witness Hunter. 6" CZ75 clone in 10mm.
David Ross
>full steel
>wood grips
sexy. thank you user
Angel Turner
> Tell me about a Stoeger Cougar
I believe the Cougar is the Beretta 8000 tooling handed over to Stoeger in Turkey, while the PX4 is an updated polymer framed update.
Jordan Peterson
Never
Justin Scott
It's the same type of thing it just blocks the hammer strut instead of the trigger bar.
I'd vote VP9 btw if you aim to get a striker. Or CZ P10C, sorry for making it more difficult.
Wait huh? A DP51 isn't like a LEM because the DP51 DA+ trigger stays back after you remove the takeup and every shot after that is SA. Which is also how a Walther P99 AS works.
Also you don't like Sig triggers? It's one of their hallmark features, what don't you like about them?
Probably not in 2019. They made it sound like they might get guns to customers in early 2020 but would struggle to get anything out even by the end of 2019.
I like it for its quirkiness but I don't really like it as a gun. It shoots fine as long as nothing's attached to the barrel and the trigger is pretty good but the grip angle and texture ruins it for me (A1). Also the A1 rebate is over, I hope you are buying an L9A2 not an A1 since they should be roughly the same price now. Also also I don't know if Steyr improved the extraction in the A2s but A1s still had weak extraction, I might not use it for carry for that reason. Also also also why you tryna carry a giant L9 instead of the S9 or even C/M9?
Man, you had to quote the unpleasant post to ask the question -__-
Smith & Wesson 3rd gen like user says. I don't know if Ruger ever made a P-series pistol in a compact size but if they did that would be heavy af too.
Cougars are awesome but if your aim is to get a heavy gun for less felt recoil, the PX4 already has less recoil than the heavier Cougar. $300 is a GREAT price for a Cougar if it's made by Beretta, but it's just okay if it was made by Stoeger. Most people seem to say the Turkish ones are just as well made as the Italian ones, and Beretta does handle warranty work on them (new ones) since they own Stoeger.
Be aware the grip angle is high like a Vertec.