I was curious, why do thugs/gangsters of THIS day and age use the weaponry that they do? It seems that Dracos and AK's are very popular among thugs and gangsters. Why is that? What makes the draco so good for thuggery? What about blocks? I hear todays rappers often mentioning glocks, dracos, AKs, AR pistols.
Also, what are other notorious guns out there? I know the TEK 9 was really popular among gangsters for a looong time in california I believe? Its just interesting how certain weapons become notorious and others don't. What are your thoughts? It seems gangsters like short weapons with large magazines.
>why is that Rap music The "Draco" was mentioned in popular songs. That's the main reason you hear about it anywhere else.
There's not much utility in "gang weapons," they're meant primarily to intimidate, be relatively transportable, and in the unlikely event of being utilized, spray indiscriminately
Elijah James
I am actually not very knowledgeable on guns. Is the Draco just a cut down AK? or is a AK47 and a Draco two different systems almost. To me they look very similar.
Kevin Wright
technically it is a Romanian AK pistol. They were imported in this configuration and not cut down. Some people call any short AK pistol a "Draco" though, mostly because of the song. For example, the one in your pic is a yugoslav Zastava AK pistol.
Ian White
>I am actually not very knowledgeable on guns Neither are gangsters.
They like whatever is cheap, or whatever looks scary. The Draco was surely chosen for rap music because of it's scary aesthetics. Any idiot can recognize the AK47, and the Draco is even more badass because it's a compact version of an AK.
(Incidentally that's why the TEC9 was popular too: it was cheap and looked like a scary machine gun, and it got a "hardcore" reputation for two reasons: it was shown on the TV show Miami Vice, and it just so happened to be the weapon of choice for a school shooting in 1989)
Aaron Clark
The Draco is a civilian variant of the Romanian Pm. md 90 carbine, with the stock removed in order to allow importation as a "handgun" and get past SBR laws. You see a lot of nogs calling any Short-barreled AK pistol (PAP, AMD, RAS models) a Draco, but the name was originally used by Cugir Arms.
>seems that Dracos and AK's are very popular among thugs and gangsters. Why is that? It's in rap songs
Jack Nelson
It looks cool and scary. Most real thugs use cheap handguns.
Ethan Murphy
Sub 80 iq redguards & beaners are notorious for slang based appropriation like : fowties (.40s&w) Macs (Ingrams) AYkay (AK) Dracos (pistol sized aks) Choppah (any semi auto rifles) most of them don't care about the real advantages of said firearms if it's cheap disposable and able to spout lead fast for a driveby it's ok for them otherwise they would snipe themselves with long range 308 & supressed guns... Asian (thai, viets, chinese) mafias are more concerned about concealability and expedience but they aren't shooting ppl on the street on a daily basis
TL DR : ganstas are retarded posers with tiny brains, the only separating them from their african child soldiers counterparts are the US board of education & KFC
Logan Wilson
Kek, that guy really wasnt atf and got busted last year.
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Charles Lopez
fowties can also mean malt liquors
Nathaniel Mitchell
>What makes the draco so good for thuggery? lots of firepower in a small(ish) gun and somewhat cheap
Kayden Price
gangsters use cheap 9mm .22 pistols and old revolvers.
It's all about the ability to conceal and move about, even in drivebys manuvering a rifle about in a car isn't ideal compared to a glock with extendo clips. Rifles and shotguns would get left at home, even if they had them.
Andrew Baker
A few others I've learned: Case = holster Dillinger = Derringer and of course clip = magazine It's also really common for them to think that their gun is a "luger" simply because they are confusing the caliber marking on the firearm for the manufacturer's name.
>>I need a couple clips for what firearm sir? >>muh luger sell gentleman magazines for luger P08 (several days pass) >>this shit don't fit muh [cheap ass 9mm semiauto]
Dylan King
A chopper is an full auto rifle user, because it makes a chopping noise like a helicopter.
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Jaxon Reed
Biscuit... heater...
Bentley Wood
>clip = magazine It's a clipazine biyatch!
Isaac Reyes
When it comes to manufacturers, why do gangsters prefer glock or ruger over like smith and Wesson or Remington?
Luke Allen
Gangsters have no knowledge or preference whatsoever about manufacturers. they don't care.
They care about what's cheap and what looks intimidating. They care about brand names on their guns just as much as you care about the evolutionary biology of the milkweed plant.
Jordan White
Classic MAC 10, truly the Tommy of our age
Logan Clark
gangsters do care about brands, hence why you see nigs bragging about their glocks.
Michael Morgan
Are typical AK pistol and AR pistol variants shooting rifle rounds? I am completely inept at gun knowledge but wouldn't the recoil on a gun that short be insane if its shooting rifle rounds?
Carson Torres
They're not bragging that their glock is anything special compared to other brands, rather they're bragging that they have a gun and just happen to be referring to it by its name. You're reading more into this than is actually meant.
Daniel Moore
They shoot intermediate rounds. Although I have never shot the stockless variants, I have shot both with stocks and it is not bad at all. Hell, even a stockless shotgun was not that bad when I owned one.
Landon Bailey
Yes, they are shooting the same rounds that the full-size AR or AK would fire.
No, the recoil is not bad. For two reasons: 1) .223 in the case of ARs and 7.62x39 in the case of AKs are technically "rifle rounds" but they are fairly weak in the world of rifle rounds. Your average hunting rifle is significantly more powerful. Recoil on an AR or AK is not bad at all. and 2) Because these things have such a short barrel, most of the gunpowder never gets a chance to burn inside the barrel. Instead, a lot of the gunpowder gets wasted by burning outside the barrel. That makes a huge muzzle flash, a really loud bang, but a relatively weak shot with far less recoil than would normally be present.
Jack Sullivan
Yes for the AK and it is loud as fuck. Same ammo
Adam Flores
Okay, it sounds stupid, but they use those to describe all firearms. They call pistols glocks and lugers and rugers because they easily ryhme. Rap music.
Ryder Ramirez
And yet, idiots on Jow Forums will insist that a stock on your pistol is necessary.
Ryder Gutierrez
>>recoil mitigation is the sole reason for using a stock
really bro?
David Green
>2) Because these things have such a short barrel, most of the gunpowder never gets a chance to burn inside the barrel. Instead, a lot of the gunpowder gets wasted by burning outside the barrel. That makes a huge muzzle flash, a really loud bang, but a relatively weak shot with far less recoil than would normally be present. That's much less true of 7.62x39 than it is of 5.56x45 7.62x39 only need 12" of barrel for full powder burn. Dracos have a 12" barrel. They only lose ~100fps from a 16.5" AKM barrel. It's a pretty ideal cartridge for short barrels, actually. However an m92 has a 10.5" barrel so the effect is more pronounced there, but still dramatically less performance loss than an 5.56 AR pistol compared to an AR rifle.
Gabriel Adams
And longer barrels require more powder to push the bullet through...
Michael Jenkins
I was bored so I actually did the recoil circulations in Quickload, using gun specs I googled and a "Max" rated load from the Hornady manual. All examples were calculated assuming full 30-round mags.
.223 Full-size M16A2: 8.68 ft-lb/s recoil energy. B&T APC223 (pistol with 8.9" bbl; includes folding brace, flip-up Iron sights: 9.8 ft-lb/s recoil.
7.62x39 Full size AK47: 9.7 ft-lb/s Micro Draco (6" BBL, with brace) 12.01 ft-lb/s
And for comparison, some common pistol data from Chuck Hawks:
in my country gangsters are very found of FN FAL and variants but i think i've seen some batch of skorpions getting apreheended by our federal police this year on TV.
Ayden Gonzalez
>fal ganstas Where do you live?
Henry Allen
Hueland.
Oliver Morales
They like guns with cool names that are easy to rap about. That's a big part of it.
Hunter Collins
It is very populare in sweden and Norway. There are tons of them available, and they are easy to restore to operational after shitty "deactivation" by eastern european gunsmiths. All the jihadis and muslim gangs use them. They also pierce vests.
Nicholas Carter
>.32ACP pierces vests
What do they make Norwegian body armor out of, tissuepaper?
Carter Sullivan
AKs have been popular among gangsters and were more popular before the mass availability of ARs. A choppa was an AKM with the stock removed and barrel cut down, much easier to use in a drive by. Draco is basically a better version of what they were already making themselves.
Jonathan Turner
They just point them out the car window and squeeze off a few rounds, then drive off. When they can't find a real Draco, they mutilate a WASR or Mak-90. Niggers are retarded.
and the term chopper was coined by 1930s white criminals who you probably nut hug becoz muh white gangs were nuffin like them spics n niggers !
Angel Ortiz
Those mak90s didnt deserve that :(
Christian Price
Ooooops, my bad. I got it mixed up with some other caliber.
Gabriel Harris
7.62x25?
Colton Taylor
Yeah I think that was it. Looks like it in the pictures.
Hunter Perez
The Czechs made an other SMG before, the Vz.23, which shoots 7.62 Tokarev, so it might be that. Sure, it's no AP .308, but it''ll go through any body armor rated for pistols.
Ayden Ross
No dip shit, its short for leg chopper. It's prohibition era slang.
Landon Myers
I can't confirm how popular the Skorpion is/was by gangsters, but I can confirm that getting serious firepower is hilariously easy in the Balkans. The Yugoslav military was pretty lax on storing and transporting stuff, so criminals, collectors and random civilians amassed as much as possible. It wasn't even necessarily corrupt officers or soldiers, just people not caring. And once the wars kicked off, it all went into overdrive. I'm from Slovenia and knew a few guys that had literal truckloads of weaponry stashed. Full auto Sten, the Yugo MG42 variants, Kalashes of all makes, etc. And while I never saw any proof of this, I know a couple of gypsies that swear they can import functioning Serbian tanks from Albania. Ilegally importing western firearms is harder through, at least with the people I know. Glock and Beretta pistols are relatively cheap, but for a more fancy and pistol I could get 3 or 4 Kalashes for the same price probably. And I don't know if gangsters used them, but there is also an abundance of liberated WW II German and Italian firearms stashed at homes.
Elijah Sanders
Most thugs affluent enough to afford Dracos don't go around doing things that would make them have to use them.
Joseph Roberts
I work with a Haitian who says he's a "Blood" >legit gangbager working a legitimate job to make honest money But he talks constantly about his "Draco that shoots a hunnid"
He also wants to get his "gun license" >Florida
Charles Allen
Thugs care about reliability, size, price, magazine capacity and how dangerous the gun looks. Reliability because they can't be buying a new gun each week, size because it's a lot harder to get a .50 cal across the town fast and easy, price because they can't make big purchases, magazine capacity because they can't carry AK mags around and a one in the gun is a lot more worth it for them and they look a bit more dangerous with it, so any interrogation is a lot likely to not end in a death.
Levi Murphy
Yeah, the Tok is reasonable, but .32 ACP out of the Skorpion is clearly not.
Nicholas Ross
>a gun store having P08 magazines in stock
I don't believe you.
Jace Gutierrez
We don't stock real ones if that's what you were implying. We do have repros from Mec-Gar though.
