I.. really want to get one

I.. really want to get one.

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NFA item?

AOW would be my guess

kinda do as well. would like to see how fast I could get clay pideons with this thing.

Black powder, not legally a firearm.

>break open 12 gauge
>"Black powder, not legally a firearm"

pick one and only one

How does it work with a weapon designed for black powder but fully capable of firing smokeless? Martini Henry seems like a good example.

it's up to the ATF
"antique weapons" are exempt

You seem to be confusing black powder cartridge firearms with percussion/muzzle-loading firearms. Black powder cartridge firearms are still covered under the NFA as long as they were made prior to whenever the antique cutoff year is (1899 I think). Although Wikipedia says cartridge-firing SBSs are still subject to the NFA, regardless of date of manufacture.

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>greentext calling you a gunless europoor

can u carry that in NYC

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Do you have a hall pass to leave /pol?
>go back

No, neither. Classified as a handgun, non nfa.

You are insanely retarded.

if it's smoothbore it's a shotgun, not a handgun

Cant be a hangun cuz smooth barrel and if non smooth barrel its a DD

I'm jealous of that extra chromosome you have that makes you think that something where they list the percussion caps you have to use is legally a firearm.

I went and looked the fucking thing up, it's a black powder muzzleloader

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Any shotshell above .410 can’t be a handgun.

The break open part just reveals the internal anvils for the mentioned 209 percussion caps. These are basically uglier versions of the howdah pistols

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Go back to discord.

fuck off kid

Jesus christ this thread brought the retards out.

It.
A.
Fucking.
Muzzleloader.

what happens if you remove the anvils

So is this classified as a shotgun or handgun?

what if he doesn't

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Neither

"smoothbore pistol" is an NFA category, it falls under AOWs. That's how things like the Serbu Super Shorty are categorized.

....not that it applies here because this is a muzzleloader, but you most certainly can have smoothbore handguns larger than .410.

Neither, it's a muzzle-loader and therefore it's not considered a "firearm" at all under the law. Ships straight to your door, no 4473.

lots of black powder guns are break open you stupid jackass.

It's blackpowder you stupid niggers. It could have an M-16 full-auto FCG, 6 spinning 3 inch barrels, and a comfy stock with the print "SHOULDER GOES UP HERE" ON THE BOTTOM. Retard bitch, this is your ass loopvideos.com/sMjgaa5j_LE?from=781&to=783

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>It's blackpowder you stupid niggers
I'm well aware. I even said so in the very post you replied to.

How did you not realize I was posting about smoothbore pistols in general?

Jesus christ you fucking schizoid faggot, go suck off a dog with your gay shit

Christ

Yes, that's the problem. It's not "black powder" which makes the gun legal. It's the fact that it's a muzzle-loader which does. Black powder arms which fire cartridges (i.e. break-action shotguns) are considered firearms.

I don't suck dog cocks, I cut them off.

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it's not really the powder that matters it's the fixed cartridge. there are muzzle loaders that are designed to use smokeless powder.

you can have breech loading firearms that don't use cartridges.

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RETARDED

It says 209 primer, it's a break open double barrel inline muzzleloader.

Can this be modified to shoot regular modern 12 guage no bp or caps?

...Could you make paper cartridges using combustible paper for this like you can with BP revolvers?

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go play video games, noguns

>one hammer
>one trigger
It's volley fire?

Probably not. To do it right
>powder
>shotwad
>shot
>shot card carefully tamped Smith and flat to keep the shot in place

Not as easy as tearing the end of a paper cartridge and dropping it in the cylinder/muzzle

No need for the shot card, just extra paper at the end to stuff down in there.

Probably way slower than with a normal shotgun. . . If at all

People that so confidently talk down to people that are 100% without a doubt correct deserve to have an itchy peepee all fucking week.

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Since you aren't really going hunting with it, you could probably get away with a somewhat shitty load so long as the powder doesn't get loose from the first barrel firing.

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Shotguns are very low pressure compared to rifles, should be fine, the only part I'd worry about is the latching mechanism but it's usually overbuilt.

>if i buy a shotgun and cut down the barrel the tax is $200
>if the manufacturer cuts down the barrel the tax is $5
why does everything have to be so damn arbitrary