So Jow Forums, what is your opinion on the serbu?
It looks like a compact thing that could become very usefull in a riot.
So Jow Forums, what is your opinion on the serbu?
It looks like a compact thing that could become very usefull in a riot.
Nice NFA violation
>in a riot
Well if you're wading into a riot looking to kill people for some reason, you better hope there's only three people rioting
they're cute, but it seems like a shockwave would be more comfortable to shoot
NFA violation? Please don't talk about things you don't understand, the entire ATF legal babble is summed up on his site.
It's a toy and maybe handy as a truck gun. Nothing is wrong with either of these uses, plus it does look darn silly/cool.
Fine little breaching gun. Ammo capacity leaves something to be desired otherwise.
Yeah, doesn't it hold like 2 +1?
Get a drum mag adapter
It's literally an AOW
Where do you live that riots are a regular occurence / statistically likely enough to justify buying a shotgun specifically for them?
This, it's an AOW. $5 tax stamp.
I own one, and a similar model made by Safety Harbor. They're fun toys but not too practical. If you wanted something like this for a defensive weapon (why???) then I'd rather have the C-More M26 PDW.
If you are LE/MIL then it might have applications for breaching, but again I'd rather have the C-More.
They are made in both 2+1 and 3+1. If you special order from Serbu they will make longer ones too, though that's kinda pointless. The 3+1 model usually has the breaching muzzle device, that's rare to find on the 2+1. The OP Pic looks like the standard 2+1 model without the breaching device.
>optic
>choke
>streamline holster
Suddenly its not so useless anymore
Get A Mossberg Shockwave or A remington Clone
shotguns actually suffers significantly from undersized barrels.
Jow Forums hates the truth that bullpups are the future (especially for shotguns). KSG 'Tactical' (or chopped 'NR') has twice the barrel length for just a few inches of longer OAL, and a magazine capacity that actually makes it being pump-action worth anything vs just being a double-barrel gun (10+1 rounds vs 2+1 rounds!).
It's probably a better alternative to the m26 as a standalone for breaching since it's lighter and more compact than a m26 and you don't have to worry about an extra 3 lbs on the end of your gun when it's attached
I wonder if minishells work alright in them
AOW aren't violating they are a stamp. You claim to have one, you should know this.
M26 PDW is much more compact than the serbu. Note I am talking specfically about the PDW variant, not the standard M26.
I never claimed they were a violation, user. I said they were an NFA item. That means they're legal if you have the tax stamp and illegal if you don't. I think you're confusing me with another poster, I was not the person who called them a violation.
they function exactly the same as any other mossberg or remington since the receiver and action are unchanged. They just take a factory gun and shorten the barrel and mag tube, then add the folding handle in place of the original pump.
You gain exactly one extra capacity. Not worth it.
Theyre not too useful in their stock configuration - i sbs'd mine and gave it an rmr which helps quite a bit. Adding a choke tube as suggested would be badass, but i dont really care enough to have it done
Forgive me, i thought you were poster before who claimed these were illegal.
Good to see other nfa tax stamp bros here.
>I SBS'd mine
I am angry and confused
Yes I know you can
I just dont know why you would
I had it in its original config for years before deciding to upgrade its stamp. A stock increases the utility of the shotgun exponentially. You know that I can still use its original grip if I want to, right?
Yes, but you're basically deleting a stamp. Why not just SBS a different gun?
I still have the old one :^)
Anyhow its still the same gun on thr same registry, i dont understand your particular brand of autism
>Three SPAS-12s
You should have one SPAS, one AR-180, an Uzi, and an AMT Hardballer instead
It's not semi auto. What does capacity matter if it's a short barrel and pump action? Nobody is going to stuff a dozen "crowd control" rounds into a gun and not utilize it without seriously lethal things happening to need that kind of capacity. For actual lethal rounds that'd be amazing if it were a semi even if you had to do something to switch between the feed tubes.
>one gun two stamps vs two guns two stamps
Yeah true that's really hard to wrap your head around.
Youre sperging out about upgrading a cool shotgun into a usable form at the expense of a $5 tax document? Sorry user, noone can help you
If pointing out how stupid that is is sperging out then yes. I guess I am.
Short barrels with full stocks are fun and handy. Due to Canadian laws we can have really short barrels with a full stock as long as the barrel was never cut down to that length. I own an 8.5" barreled 870 clone and it's fun. 12.5" and 14" are definitely much more useful because the tube mag isn't as cucked.
Barrel length doesn't matter as mcuh as you would think with buck and slugs. Once you go under 12.5" is loses pretty quick, but compared to an 18" barrel you're still only losing less than 200 fps, at least from what I have seen and tested out.
Also, detachable mags are still superior to something like the KSG. An SBS Mossberg with the 20 round mag beats the KSG on firepower any day, and you can actually reload it in less than 20 minutes.
Owned 3/4. They kinda suck.
Uzi didn't suck. The trigger did.
What does it hold, two rounds? Utterly ridiculous,. Better off with a cut down double barrel shotty
obsolete
neat
does it function with minishells?
vertical grips on shot guns cause binding on the action bars
No, and In my experience, the Black Aces stuff is highly unreliable even with normal shells.
So Jow Forums, what is your opinion on THIS serbu?
It looks like a compact thing that could become very useful in meeting my daily dairy requirements
Your mum binds on my action bar fag
DID SOMEONE SAY TRUCK GUN
And nearly $1,000 less for higher capacity, and no stamp required
Too bad they're fuckhuge.
>women interested in guns
Not even once. This is why there's so many lesbians and FtMs, but that's what literal God gave us guns for, to kill them.
Nah, they're only 26"
It fits on the windowsill behind the headboard of my bed pretty nicely
>toy
Secret Service protection teams use a very similar (if not the same) weapon, hung from a lanyard on the plate carrier. Seems a great little blaster option if a defensive need arises.
>It looks like a compact thing that could become very usefull in a riot.
No, it doesn't. It would be pretty decent as a counter gun in a convenience store, but that's about it.
>at the expense of a $5 tax document?
AOWs are $200 to make, $5 to transfer. You wasted the original $200 stamp the manufacturer got, which was factored into the price of the gun when you bought it.
It would have been smarter to SBS another shotgun, and if you couldn't afford the whole cost, to sell the AOW to fund the project.
Secret Service Fudds used them in the '70s and '80s, because they're dumb. SMGs were far more practical in that role.