Do you go to jail for using a gun against a person inside your home that refuses to leave and attempts to hurt you? Do you go to jail for using a gun in self defense in arkansas?
Do you go to jail for using a gun against a person inside your home that refuses to leave and attempts to hurt you...
Just make sure that said aggressor is armed and you will will be okay.
Who'd you shoot, op?
no timmy, you cant shoot your moms new boyfriend just because hes black
No, they take you to the mall in little rock and let you buy up to $5000 of whatever you want! Or: ASK A LAWYER, NOT SOME ANONYMOUS ASSHOLES ON THE INTERNET.
Just answer the question, do you have to go to jail in handcuffs and answer questions before you are let go if you use a gun in self defense in Fayetteville Arkansas or not?
Lawyers are liars and they steal money.
Okay let me use this for an example. The guy is seven foot tall, drunk, ex football player and has mental issues and he is inside your home. You ask him to leave and he refuses and after the tenth time he gets aggressive and violent. Now you take a gun and you tell him to leave and he either leaves or not and if he steps foward you shoot him dead. Do you go to jail for that or not?
Someone answer already
Depends on who witnesses it
you leave the house and call the cops, let them do the dirty work.
Hey I’m in Fayetteville too how’s it going friendo
Fuck that rabbit
If you’re in a blue state, yes
What? Is this happening to you right now? You're being vague. If you are in a situation where someone is not leaving your house, call the cops. If you are not in a position to call the cops you would probably not be posting on Jow Forums
Yes you go to jail you dumb retard. Do not shoot him. Call the cops. You are obviously not in fear for your life. CALL THE COPS AND DO NOT SHOOT HIM YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT. YOU WILL GO TO JAIL FOR MURDER
You go to jail if you shoot since he was invited in and isn't some random crackhead breaking in. He lives there now. You have to go through the eviction process.
asking for a friend?
Lawyer is your only way out of this, retard.
Yes, dumbass. See
nope
Everyone else is a retard.
I’m used to laws in Kentucky, so I too might be retarded. So, follow all advice here with a grain of salt.
Following your “football player” example, you would be in the right. Even if you did invite him in, after you told him to leave multiple times, I’d imagine he would be trespassing.
Pulling a gun before he gets violent is a bad move, keep one CC’d at all times though.
When he started getting violent and agitated, this is where you pull the gun. When he starts getting violent toward you, you would be in the right to shoot. As you could claim reasonable fear for your life.
If he had mental problems, or a past record of violence, you would almost certainly be in the clear, even places like California.
Make sure to video tape these sorts of encounters. (I bet you don’t even have a home security cam setup)
This has been a quick guide on shooting someone. I’m not a lawyer, and not even well versed in law, so I might be fucked up in my info.
I never wandered the actual question on if you go to jail.
Yes, you will be handcuffed, and possibly brought somewhere to awnser a couple questions. But, this is just for police to decide if you are dangerous/just murdered somebody.
Now, answer one of my questions op, did you just fucking shoot someone?
You are an idiot. They will subpoena his internet records and find out he wasn't ASKING AN IMAGEBOARD if he should shoot a guest in his home, proving he was not in imminent danger and did not believe himself to be. Suggesting that he WANTED TO SHOOT and instigated the situation. You are WRONG and are about to get somebody killed and a retard sent to jail
What if the OP is asking a hypothetical for future reference? As advice?
What if this happened before, he did nothing, and wants to know what he should do if it happens again?
Just playing the devil's advocate here.
Because that's the way I am reading this thread, because OP sounds like a fucking idiot who wants to kill someone
Thanks for answering my question. Thread is over now.
any pic of the dead body?0
OP what!?
>much larger stronger person: ability
>within or nearly within swinging distance: opportunity
>either states or through his actions makes clear an intent to kill or seriously harm you: intent
>does not live in the residence and has been told to leave YOUR home: preclusion
Depends on state law, if he lives there or is a guest, and if he's demonstrated intent to grievously harm or kill you. With typical castle doctrine laws you'd technically be covered in many if not most jurisdictions. That being said the local prosecutor/LEOs probably aren't going to be a huge fan of it, and they may try to make a case of it if they can inject any doubt into your version of events. For instance they might take you posting to a certain tibetan weaving forum about the legality of such an act as indicative of premeditation on your part. "premeditated self defense" is a very shaky premise and in your situation could be misinterpreted as you baiting an individual into this situation when it could instead be avoided, which would definitely be murder.
tl;dr possibly, but you're on extremely shaky ground and should do everything in your power to prevent such a situation from occurring.
>Jow Forums accidentally helped someone hide their murder with self defense excuse
GODDAMNIT Jow Forums
>Accidentally
Nigger, I’m the user who typed up that huge essay that answered OP
I knew exactly what I was doing
Fair's fair. Can't fault you for that when the OP hasn't given you much to go on and been particularly evasive.
So a lot of guys are saying some stupid shit like I would go to jail if I did this, but that sounds like bullshit. I have to do this, there’s this girl at school that I really like but I saw her in this big stupid football players Jeep during lunch. I know if he’s out of the picture she’ll fall for me, and I know he’ll be violent because he’s a dumb football guy.
Thanks for all the help to those who actually helped.
Your not op dumbass
lol based
I mean technically you can, but it's a very foolish move.
Why don't you call the cops first and have them do the dirty work for you? That way you don't risk going to jail or shit.
You sound like an entitled homicidal autist.
Not OP, but I'm curious now:
Just for shits n' giggles though, I'm curious how Jow Forums handle a hypothetical similar to the OP's situation. Let's call this a, "what would you do?"
Again, this is all very hypothetical, but I'm going to be specific too, just so nothing's vague. Let's say your neighbor drops by. Ex-football player, like the op said. Big guy. He rings your doorbell. You've met him. He's introduced himself and you've maybe let him borrow your step ladder before and he returned it quickly and you never had any problems with him. He's a casual acquaintance. Of course, being ex-football player he always seemed a bit ...punchy. But so far, every time you've talked with him, he was a really nice guy. Hell, one time he even brought a case of your favorite beer for your birthday. This is is a very friendly neighbor of yours and in all the years you've been living next door to him, he's never given you any reason not to trust him.
Dead of winter. Middle of January and it's 20 below. He asks you for a cup of sugar. Or flour. Whichever scenario you think would be most likely. The point here is after all these years, you've never had a reason to distrust him. He's a swell guy as far as you've known him up until now. So, you decide (and perhaps this is a lapse in good judgement) to let him in just for a couple minutes while you get him some flour. Sugar. Again, in this case, it doesn't matter. He's making banana bread and is just a little bit short. You let him in for a moment and tell him to wait right where he is. You come back from the kitchen and it only took you a few moments to get him what he needed. When you return, he has tracked snow and dirt all over your floor and is sitting in your living room. Rude. You tell him, "I got your flour. Could you please leave now?" He refuses. You tell him again. "Please leave NOW." Again, he rebuffs you. He looks visibly angry now (CONT)
(CONT)
You tell him to leave now or you'll call the police.
Now you've done it. He's PISSED. He stands up and starts breaking things. Turning over your table, breaking a lamp. The nice tiffany one you got as a house warming gift from your mom. He takes a few steps towards you now.
So Jow Forums:
What would YOU do?
Call the police
Do you normally carry while at home? Again, hypothetically here - Supposing you called the police: He decides he really doesn't want to get arrested. Or maybe he's too angry right now to think straight. He's definitely not going to let that happen. Now he's coming for you. He's practically on top of you. He's fast for such a big guy. Again, ex-football player. He was a running back. He's used to getting close to someone in a hurry. Before you know it, he's just a few feet from you:
What happens next?
>trespassing
>violent
>coming towards me.
I don't keep a gun on hand when I've let people into my home that I trust, so this is tough. I'm by no means a sad physical specimen, but some 6'3 220 lb linebacker could take me in a one on one. I'd go for the nuts, and put some distance in between us. Call the cops, get my gun and hold my ground. If he keeps coming after me with a gun trained on him I'd do what i have to, but frankly I'd struggle to pull the trigger on a seemingly friendly neighbor who just snapped.
That being said, I shouldn't have been an inhospitable cunt and Reeeed at him for tracking a little mud inside. Vacuums exist for a reason, and im sure the big dummy didn't do it to be a prick.
You bend over and let him fuck you in the ass. You realize thst for years you desperately wanted to be bred by a proper bull. Remembering you have a Tiffany lamp just reminds you of what a faggot you are. He's angry, he's in a rage. You bend over and hear him unzip his pants. He's already hard. And he enters you. Your toes curl and you let out a soft effeminate moan.
What happens next?
An interesting answer to a very difficult hypothetical that I have to admit was kinda gamed against you from the start.
These kinds of hypotheticals pop up in my own head from time to time. It's a tough situation, but these kinds of things have been known to happen from time to time, and putting yourself in these situations often reveals we make mistakes in judgement even when we're calm and collected. Let alone under duress.
And I guess the last question would be at what point would you feel someone overstayed their welcome? At what point do you think you need to ask someone to leave, and subsequently, if they don't or become violent after being asked?
Umm... Do I need to call the police right now? Did you just fucking shoot somebody, faggot?
No, everything is fine now.
Well in that situation, you can make an argument that he is a lethal weapon- or rather he can use his body as a lethal weapon. You were in mortal peril because he could very easily have killed you, like when Zimmerman was having his head pounded into the sidewalk. So, it would be a self defense case, like when my mother fired at a home intruder who had a knife and was trying to stab her. But she missed, and he ran away- if there's actually a body involved, you have a bit of a different situation. See, if he pulled a gun or knife on you, it'd be more clear cut, the cops will wonder why threatening him with the gun didn't de escalate the situation. But you could get it considered self defense. It may be more likely to involve actual charges and a court case than if the intruder had a gun, that's for sure. God help you if it does and the jury is full of sports ball obsessed normies.
>What happens next?
I take the dick of course. Because I hate my parents so much that the thought of keeping a housewarming gift from them means I must be flaming faggot who hates the thought of being reminded of my parents who never approved of my lifestyle.
Does what state you're in matter?
Does this change if your state has castle doctrine?
If they're causing a ruckus or I have things to do, then they've overstayed their welcome. Start with cues to leave, maybe they'll catch on. If not, ask them politely to leave. Cite a reason, most people will understand. If that fails, tell them to leave firmly. If they stay without being violent, then maybe it's time to call the police. Respond to violence with violence.
Seems like a decent enough answer and good advice overall.
OP's post would have been helped by being more thorough with details. Being vague and refusing to offer important details about a particular situation should make most people skeptical.
OP here, how do you dispose rotten meat without a trace?
Ask the police nicely to donate it to charity for you, of course.
You think they can help move a 200 lbs of rotten meat?
200 lbs? You might need to call some help from the Association of Transporting Foodservice.
Can't i just simply use a garage tarp and bag up the heavy rotten meat and seal it tight and put it in my trunk and dump it off at a nearby lake for critters?
you should always have a (or more) chunk gun just for these times. and always tell the responding officer the seven magic words. (if you're a kid google it)
You could, but you're better off getting a sealable bag from Food Bag Incorporated.
wow, the pussy-est answer ever....How the fuck were you brought up, kid?
The usage of deadly force in Arkansas is lawful if you reasonably believe the person you're using it against is a) committing or about to commit a felony involving force or violence, or b) using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force. If you're outside your home you also have a duty to retreat, but that doesn't apply inside your home.
Based on your example, there is a chance you could go to jail. It depends on the facts. Why was this guy in your home? Why was he drunk? Were you drunk? Why was the victim aggravated? These are all questions I would be asking as a prosecutor to determine if you acted in lawful self defense. If football man broke into your house with a weapon and threatened your life, you would probably be in the clear. But if you just got into a drunk fight with this guy at the house party you were throwing, don't be surprised when you get hit with a manslaughter charge.
Bottom line, don't invite people into your house if you think they're going to be a problem. And call the police if there is a domestic altercation at your residence. Killing someone is a serious matter. If you can't justify your actions you will be charged with a crime.
>t. NWA user who is going to law school and has studied cases involving deadly force
>I am not a lawyer and this in not official legal advice. Do your own research and seek legal counsel if needed
Not going to ask for legal advice, but I have lots of hypothetical questions.
What do you do if another tenant attacks you in your basement of your apartment?
What kind of self defense is justified if any?
State: WI