Ways the military doesn't have to be shit

As a medic I can say you wanted to come to us and not a civilian. We lived with you, saw you all day every day, partied with you on the weekends and worked with you on duty. A civilian nurse doesn't give a shit about you. You're just a customer to them.

The medics are both overworked and incompetent. They're also not actual doctors, they're a random fucking lower-enlisted guy with the rough equivalent of EMT-B. They also aren't allowed to do ANYTHING other than tell you to change your socks, hand you OTC NSAIDs, and refer you to the wait list to see the army equivalent of a nurse practitioner (the wait list is days long everywhere, in some places weeks long). Who also can't do a whole lot of anything beyond go "yep yer fucked" and put you on ANOTHER wait list to see one of the 3 actual MDs on the entire fucking installation.

Shortly after I hit permanent party I broke my leg badly in a jump. I was driven by ambulance from the DZ to the ER at WAMC on Ft. Bragg after being """""""stabilized""""""" by a combat medic (given 800mg motrin). I then sat in the ER waiting room for SIXTEEN FUCKING HOURS before even being seen by a goddamn nurse. Then I was taken back, given a bed, and forgotten about for another TWELVE HOURS before ANYBODY came by to check on me. Took them 71 fucking hours before they put me in a cast, and they did it without setting the break first so the cast had a fucking 30 degree bend in it where my leg was sticking out sideways, and when I called them on it I was threatened with NJP for "disrespecting an officer", forgotten about again for another 10 hours, and finally got some civilian RN that set it and re-cast it. At no point did I ever see a doctor.

I literally would have been better off with a Civil War doctor going "you got ghosts in your blood you should do cocaine about it"

>they're a random fucking lower-enlisted guy with the rough equivalent of EMT-B.
Docs are great. Stfu
>then sat in the ER waiting room for SIXTEEN FUCKING HOURS before even being seen by a goddamn nurse.
Waiting rooms are great for WAITING retard.
The rest of your post is bullshit that never fucking happened.

>A civilian nurse doesn't give a shit about you.
And you're saying medics do?

>hyperextended knee during PT?
Take ibuprofen and have a 2 day profile that says no running
>3rd person from the same platoon coming down with a sickness that involves diarrhea and vomiting.
The fuck you need quarters for?
>Report for anthrax shots
We don't have anthrax shots but stand in line for an hour
>I know you can't walk but I need to see 1SG's signature first
>You're 2 minutes late, go to urgent care
>We don't have anything for your IFAK, go away.

OP is a faggot, but army medics don't give a shit about you.

#JustBootThings

Go join the Airforce if you wanna work at a Country Club

>And you're saying medics do?
If you're not a shitbag
>>hyperextended knee during PT?
>Take ibuprofen and have a 2 day profile that says no running
You want surgery or something dipshit?
rd person from the same platoon coming down with a sickness that involves diarrhea and vomiting.
>The fuck you need quarters for?
Wash your hands, viral stomach bugs resolve themselves moron
>>Report for anthrax shots
>We don't have anthrax shots but stand in line for an hour
Welcome to the army

You sound like a whiny little bitch. You should be counseled.

>overtime pay so coc won't keep you until 2230h for no reason, and if they do you get more money
Fuck me, I guess that whole portion of your oath of office/enlistment only matters during certain hours. Maybe if you got shit done, you wouldn’t stay late.
>employ civilian maintenance staff so grunts can train to fight instead of paint rocks and pick up garbage
Ok, you do 4 years as a grunt and then you can do 4 more years in a POG billet with civilian transferable skills.
>callbacks don't apply beyond a 'x' km radius
See my first point
>let soldiers live off the base from day 1
So that 17 year olds can drink and rape each other with no supervision as opposed to the limited supervision they already enjoy.
>medical where you can go to a civilian doctor of your choice and the bill goes to the military
Hahahahahahahahahah, gibs me dat for free
>a regulation where your coc are beholden to their own timings, so no more standing in formation for 3 hours
Your shit leadership is not my problem.
>you have to reach E6 before you can go to OCS
Ok
>employ civilians for guard duty
Fuck no

You sound like a boot that hasn’t even graduated AIT or deployed. You don’t want to serve your country, you just want undeserved benefits.

How does it feel knowing that everyone hates you medic? Everyone knows you are incompetent and you are the butt of everyone's jokes.

>Injury that take minimum of two weeks to heal
Walk it off lol
>Contagious bug that will only spread if not quarantined
deal with it nerd lol
>Welcome to the army
It's always going to be shit so lets make it worse lol
>completely ignoring not helping out soldiers
lol

At least MP's are good at their jobs, medics don't seem to know anything. Your MOS should be dissolved.

Haha, I'm in a hospital now, I had fun fucking your dependas while you were at NTC this year, felt great man

As a nurse? Good job moving from one shitty job where no one expects anything to another.

>inb4 I'm a doctor making a gorrilian dollars fucking bitches all day long

>Maybe if you got shit done, you wouldn’t stay late.
First formation 0530
Stand around until 0600 waiting for 1SG to come out of his office
0610 morning brief
HOLY SHIT WE'RE 15 MINUTES LATE TO START PT RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN (1SGs fault, your problem)
PT supposed to end at 0700, runs until 0740 because you were 15 minutes late to start and fuck you
only 5 minutes to shit, shower, change, and reappear
0745 first formation for duty day, you'd BETTER be shitted, showered, and changed into a clean duty uniform even though they only gave you 5 minutes.
No breakfast, no time.
0800 duty day starts, 1SG nowhere to be seen, you're still standing in formation
0820 1SG comes out of his office, still in PTs (he didn't participate in PT)
0845 morning brief complete, he only yelled at you for 10 minutes today
0845-1000 stand around company area because leadership gave you nothing to do
1000 "go police call the parking lot until lunch"
1130 "okay you get to go to lunch but be back by 1200hrs, Top wants us all back at noon sharp"
1200 return from lunch
1200-1530 stand around company area because all staff NCOs are "in a meeting" (asleep in their cars) and 1SG hasn't been seen since he released the last formation
1530 1SG reappears, still in PTs, "you you and you report to Post Police Call. Everybody else police call the parking lot"
"We just did that 1SG"
"Do it again"
1645 mass-text goes out to be in formation in company area at 1650
1650 "We just got tasked with moving every single truck in the motorpool 1 slot down, nobody knows where all the keys are, go draw bolt cutters and new locks from Motor Sarn't, nobody goes home until it's done
100+ trucks in motor pool
1830 new locks are drawn, 1 pair of bolt cutters found
2200 all trucks moved and re-locked
2205 "Form up! 1SG wants to talk to you!"
1SG: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY 1700 WHY ARE YOU KEEPING ME HERE PAST END OF DUTY DAY
2300 finally released for the day

>The peace time military is a bunch of busy work manual labor enforced by people who are higher on the food chain than you
Oh no. That sucks :( who could have guessed this when they signed up?
Contact the media, this is an outrage! You should unionize OP!

Since when are we in a peace time military? We've been at war for over a decade. Just because it's been going on a long time doesn't mean its stops being war.

>Doesn't know what a "peace time military means"
Fucking boots

>HURR JUST GET YOUR WORK DONE AND YOU CAN GO HOME AT A NORMAL TIME
>stand around all day then work assigned literally 10 minutes before you're supposed to leave
>HURR JUST SUCK IT UP DURR
Fuck you and everyone else that thinks that's in any way acceptable.

This, but your average soldier is a retard that loves getting shit on
Hurr durr everything sucks but if you wish it wasnt retarded you shouldnt be here lol
>my sgt was a dick so now that I'm an e5 I'm a dick Haha
And the circle continues

What the fuck 68w will do anything for you. I love medics, goddam. They are the most bro tier MOS in the military. Too drunk? They hit you with an IV to keep you in the game. Shot? You're gonna be fine buddy. Huskey ran over an IED? They're gonna get you outta there. I love those beautiful bastards.

Not that user but it depends on what type of nurse you are. Floor clinic nurses aren’t expected to do shit but ICU, ED, Cath lab etc all have high expectations for their RNs. Not really a lateral move.

Most of that applies to the german army.
Not everything of that is a good thing tho.
But it surely makes beeing infantry really comfy in comparison.
I have a shitton freetime due to the fact that every hour that i work beyond 9h a day is added to a kind of bank account from which i can take hours off work if i have enough and my superiors allow it.
Also we can even exchange some of those for money if we really have way too much.
Happens when for example we had alot if field OPs in a year.
Also we get extra money for working in the time between 9pm until 5 am.
It works like that for everybody.
For example, a few of my platoons enlisted were participating in Trident Juncture last year.
They had almost 2 months of consistent leave after that and got about 1200€ extra.
And the people actually think all the money from the increased defwnce budget is going towards fixing the issues haha.

I have never seen a more junior enlisted opinion in my life. You're butthurt because someone expects you to do a fucking job and you're legally beholden to it instead of being able to weasel your way out of everything. No point you made actually deals with any of the real issues that make military life shit, like toxic work environments or the Old Boy system protecting fuckheads that need to be in jail instead of just getting moved sections or the careerists and politicians trying to use the service as their personal advancement tool. Fuck, you could have even talked about shitty Yes-Men refusing to sack up to corporatist leadership and overworking troops while constantly diving through loopholes in the regs to do it. Instead, you bitched about having to live in the barracks, go to formation, and do your job.

You should have to finish an entire enlistment before you're allowed to publicly voice your opinion about military life.

>You should have to finish an entire enlistment before you're allowed to publicly voice your opinion about military life.
You aren't allowed to talk about military life at all on any form of media if you follow the regs. But we all know that's some bullshit.

In addition to that tho:

Most garrisons are only guarded by civilian sentrys, at least as long as there is only threat level "A" active.
Those are a literal sad fucking joke and as a boot, most of us actually believed it was supposed to be one.
Literally 80% of them are out of shape 30-60 year old men, most of them overweight.
That is the case at every garrison i have been at yet.
They often don't even check your ID and just let cars and even trucks just drive into a military installation, even when it's already dark and late.

Also civilian work contractors are never checked or anything.
We have a civilian contractor for cleaning the toilets here, so us enlisted only have to clean the not so shitty parts of the toilets and bathrooms.
They are all, of course, so 3rd. World immigrants who can barely speak german and could really, really easily snuggle anything into here, spy, or do whatever else.
Else they could boobytrap every fucking toilet bowl with aids-infected razorblades just for fun and nobody would find out about it.

Also the civilian sentrys are barely trained in shooting their handguns, can't run or walk at all due to beeing old and fat and are only supervised by a single guard NCO/CO and his enlisted assist/driver.
In the whole fucking garrison.

That shit ain't the case for some field camps on training grounds tho, there we still have actual military sentrys and actualy fucking security provided by those.
Because well, we as soldiers actually patrol the fence and the garisson more than once every 8 hours and are properly armed with rifles and trained with those as well as having access to proper NVGs and shit.

God damn this stupidity get's me mad.

You're just some junior enlisted fuccboi who doesn't realize you literally aren't complaining about anything worth complaining about. You literally signed up to have your fucking time wasted for the next 4 to 8 years. You get paid to be available 24/7/365 for all legal orders, which includes wasting your damn time. Literally grow the fuck up. You're going to finish your first enlistment and either get out (like a smart person) or stick around and realize how much of a little fuccboi you were when real shit comes your way.

That's horseshit. You aren't allowed to represent the military as an individual without prior approval by, at a minimum, PR and/or your commander. You can say, "I, as an individual, think this particular part of military life is X, Y, or Z," so long as you don't breach OPSEC or breach classified. The shit people get in trouble for is wearing their uniform or saying, "I'm Dipshitsergeant So-n-So, and this is why Congress is bullshitt!!!" at which point you're representing your branch of service without prior consent. I ran my fucking mouth constantly while I was in and never got shit for it once, but I was also smart enough to not do it in uniform, never mention my rank or affiliation, and never say shit like, "As an active duty military member, I think this."

People like you are why smart people don't join the military unless it's for a cushy job
>just suck it up lol
Things don't have to suck shit, there's no reason for it other than unrelenting faggotry from higher-ups.

I just want to get one thing straight: I'm not telling you to suck it up because I think you're stupid or just a plain out pussy. I'm telling you to suck it up because you aren't going to change anything in the military and you can let it break you or you can figure out how to deal, keep your head low, and either get out after one punch or play the game.
>theres no reason things have to suck shit
You're absolutely right, but they do, and you signed up for it, and literally nothing you and any individual ever does is ever going to change it, because it's like that by design. If you were half as smart as you thought you were, you'd have realized that by the time you made it out of training school. Also
>smart people dont join the military
They absolutely do, they just keep their heads under the radar, put up with the fuck-fuck games, and punch out after one enlistment. OR, the succeed at the fuck-fuck games and make cushy careers doing fuck all, then become the kind of people who make the actual decisions in the military and they keep it a waste of time by design. The reason why there's no smart people in "non-cushy" jobs is because those jobs are not for smart people and they have no end of dumb people applying for the military. It's got nothing to do with attitudes - the government doesn't actually want the best and the brightest joining the military, that's a waste of resources. They need those people to be government contractors.
Get past your first duty station and try to tell me what it's all about and how you've got all the same solutions by making the exact same bitchfests with all the same non-solutions literally every other junior enlisted guy makes. You need to figure how to deal with the suck, or you're going to end up crying about it to a psychology or suck-starting your fucking gun instead of bitching on Jow Forums. That's the truth. Your choice how you want it to end.

If you listened to the people who came before you telling you to suck it up, you wouldn't be in this position. They tell you this shit because they don't know otherwise how to tell you that you've got to figure out how to deal with this shit. No one forced you into this, but you made your bed and you have to figure out how to sleep in it.
Nothing is going to change. Accept that reality right now. The military is always going to be a shitfest. It is a shitfest by design, and the people in charge like it that way. You won't ever change it unless you wind up in charge, and if you ever did, you'd think the same way as those guys and keep it a shitfest.

Seriously, you need to grow up and do it fast. When the people who came before you tell you shit like
>suck it up
>grow up kid
>lol deal
it's because that's literally the only solution you've got. Figure out how to deal until you can either get out or until you learn to like it. Until then, you're just wasting your breath and making the situation that much worse for everyone who has to listen to you. Address the literal illegal activity as you find it; keep you head in the game and on the mission first, but remember you've got to help take care of the people around you always. Prepare for the reality that the next X years of your life is rarely going to be exciting or fun, and most of it is going to feel like a massive waste of time.

There is no fucking rainbow - it's a shit slide, and what's waiting for you is some legitimately sweet bene's, a DD-214 (which you'll fucking cherish like your firstborn), and maybe a VA pension check. Welcome to the military. Get the fuck over it already.

You’re a stupid faggot, and paste eating retards like you are the reason 90% of actually smart talented people get out of the army. It’s left with a bunch of paint huffing E-5’s that walk around yelling all day because they need to cover up the fact that the SPCs that are gonna ETS in 6 months are the only ones that actually know their fucking jobs. While broken ass SNCOs pretend like they’re relevant to anything after 2006 and officers desperately crank out OPORDs in order to try to salvage their career in front of the COL.

You people are ruining this military.

Oh no, I'm not the previous guy. I'm sitting comfy right now in a civilian job, very glad that I went to college instead of listening to the recruiters. Dumb faggots who want to die for Israel can enjoy themselves, and I'm sure they will while they munch crayons in 110 degree heat. They sign up because they got suckered in by the promise of whatever the fuck it was that they were told they would get, then proceeded to get fucked for no reason other than that being how it's been done for a long time. Wouldn't they be a million times more useful actually doing something other than standing around beating their meat?

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Ironically, those same zionist crayon-munchers command the respect of their nation to such a degree as to be untouchable even by the leftist zeitgeist, while you beat your meat at some wage-slaving job. You make more money, but you're about 15 social-ladder rungs below literal sand-pounding retards. Isn't that just a kick in the ass?

>respect of the nation
ok zogbot, if you think a bunch of boomers on their deathbeds giving you respect is something to be proud of, enjoy it

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>a bunch of boomers
That's weird, pretty much everyone I talk to no matter how old they are or where I go to - even when I'm out in San Francisco visiting my art school faggot buddies - instantly assumes a stance of deference and respect as soon as they find out I'm a veteran. I've only had on person in my entire life disrespect me or think less of me for having served in the military, and people around her literally told her to stop being such a bitch. I've gotten jobs and into school on nothing more than respect for the fact that I served in the military.
As if that really matters - everyone with actual pull is a boomer, so even if they were the only group that respected military veterans it'd still be pretty cushy.

It's fucking great being a zogbot glue-eating retard. Everyone respects me and automatically takes me more seriously, except jealous fuccbois crying about their cushier civilian jobs and how much smarter they were for not joining. I absolutely agree, by the way. You definitely made the better decision. All I got out of sitting at a shitty desk job for 6 years was better pay than my civilian equivalents despite not having a degree or any kind of certification; free healthcare; GI Bill benefits that not only give me a free-ride (or pretty close) to any school in the country but also pay me better than $15/hr tax free to do it; access to VA home loans; a pension; and the respect of pretty much everyone I meet for no real reason. Damn, getting shit on in a 110° sandbox definitely wasn't worth this at all.

>the desperate cope
I feel sorry for you, bootlicker. Though I guess you wouldn't know any better. While you were shitting into a hole out in the middle of nowhere I was fresh out of college making 120k a year because I actually have enough of a brain to apply myself. You desperately cope with this 'respect' you think you get, when in reality it doesn't do anything other than make you look like a faggot when you obnoxiously tell everyone you meet about your days in the desert. You wasted your prime years doing nothing. Must feel very bad.

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>le cope
Oh, I'm torn to fucking pieces I'm getting paid to attend a public Ivy League school, free healthcare, easier job placement, and the immediate respect of everyone I meet. The fact that you don't understand the value of that social capitol immediately outs you as the pseud worker-bee you actually are. Honestly, I really seriously appreciate the much needed sympathy, since I'm just too fucking stupid to realize my position in the world.
>muh 120k salary
>i applied myself
>waste_years.mp3
Buddy, if you were talking to a cop or maintainer, maybe you'd have a point. But you aren't. You're trying to flex against a guy who doesn't give a shit that he's twice your size. I don't even talk about shit I did in the military. It comes up naturally when you meet new people all the time instead of working in the same shitty cubicle, more than likely being some kind of code monkey. You talk about your family, your life, stuff you've done before. Sideways mention you're a veteran and all of a sudden you're being selected for leadership roles and management positions than you rightfully have no business being selected for. Really is nice, honestly. Also
>bootlicker
Fucking ironic coming from a wage-slave. But at least you make a "lot" of money, right?

>the copemaster at it again
"MUH SOCIAL CAPITAL" he screams as he struggles to find work, only to wash out and work as a night guard for a museum for 40k a year
>I walk around and grace these plebs with my military presence
this is the mind of the crayon eater, behold it as he collects his leech check for preserving Israeli interests

Not him but that was a weak come back.

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I realized how pointless it is, he can argue whatever he wants and his inflated ego will fill in the gaps with "muh social points"
time for bed

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Have you retards considered that not everyone is a fucking meme, and maybe just MAYBE there's multiple paths to fulfillment, happiness, and security in life? Did you niggers ever stop to smell the roses? Like, fuck you, it's federal, no shit. Get off my house. Why are you bragging about your lives instead of living them? I know this is le luxemburgian window glass flux manufacturing enthusiast's forum, but do you guys have to be constantly fighting over ant people shit. Like, fuck you. You guys aren't even real. You're punk rockers and greeks. There's so many cooler things to be done and yet here you are pwning internet stranger no. 0 for half a pound of gallium nitride circadian fuckers. You have no excuses other than yourselves. Enjoy things and do cool stuff with your income. Money is shit in that when it spreads things grow and while it piles it stinks. Fight for what you guys want by living example lives. Like, fuck you. Whenever you bite a dunny, the world laughs because you're making yourself suck through stupid shit like this and above. I want to be optimistic stay forward, but shit like this makes me think more people are lizard brained nigglets pissing on muffintops. Get off my house. When I talk to people doing cool stuff during rests, they can be complete strangers but the nicest people I've met and seen, but the more time I spend here undoes that. Do people on the internet exist? No. Stop living where you don't exist. I live my life like the Republic of the Rough and Ready by Hella and Salamander by Lightning Bolt because I try to exist and do. I'm finding friends who operate on my wavelength; but they're sparse, I travel. I know I'll find a rope bunny to quench my room and she'll be real, but most girls are retarded just like the men trying to be like them. It'll be like the picture of Malcolm X holding the m10 carbine but with a loving couple. I'm here because blow it out your ass.

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Also forgot to tell you, you splatter like "who knows what the fuck", you brainlet libtard neocon yuppie boomer luddite transhumanist zoomer pseud deductionist smartass punk rocker roman-larper greco-assyrian emulator lutheran spyware furfag puritan elitist pleb dunny biter illusionary niggerlicous spear-footed poser 808 sampling weekender gaper copper-tongued colloidal silver drinker retardology follower cookie-cutter pinneal gland unitasker pointer ignorer syskeyer illiterate ant-tier boot kicker licker pun2k light faker benign statist id10-t buzzer powder cintered 3 chord dorian progressor pop half tang semi blowback mod smoker technicolor desaturated loomis render megafag neurotypical schitzo urbanite hick unterminated 6 hardness quartz promiscuous incel secret club premoter cross boarder mudless destutute bachelor drop in milquetoast elphant talker tunnel violdion glow in the dark dead in the day unbased basic semi-bear tree hugging industrialist extremist moderate meme with no thoughts of your own.

Holy schizo poster batman! The fuck did this nigger just say? Is this some new copypasta or someshit?

This entire thread is aids

I’ve never seen it but I can guarantee I’m gonna use it

mfw i went to my local tricare hospital (biggest in the state) and the medic working the ER fucked up taking my blood by taking the cap off of the needle so it started pouring all over the floor. He also botched the insertion and gave me 2 holes in my vein

This
Hospitals higher less and less qualified people to care for free loaders and welfare queens.
>Socialized medicine is gonna be great guys!

Uh, he was an Army Medic dude. Young guy but still.
also, >higher

Way to derail a thread guys.

I have been charged a total of 13 times, lost rank, been moved sections, platoons, companies and battlions for fighting for my soldiers. I knock them off 5 minutes after a timing when coc doesn't show up, and deal with the ass chewing myself. I tell my soldiers to disappear off base instead of picking up trash, sweeping bullshit and take the hit if I get called. I'll tell my higher ups my soldiers are already on a tasking if we get a callback. If my infantrymen get tasked with pog shit like stocktaking things which aren't ours, then they're going straight out the base to their homes to look for 'missing items'
I have tied a CPT to a tree and left him in the field for 30hrs because he was a retard. I blasted a LTCOL in front of the company during his address. I have punched out JNCOs, SNCOs and two LTs and if I had my time again I would change nothing.

t. former E7 who got busted to Private three times in 20 years

Woah Woah Woah there guy, hold your horses. What is this work shit? Air Force here, we got civilians for that. Idiot.

Lol I bet OP is a supply clerk. What a little faggot.

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See shit like this makes it 100x better.
Me and my team were all competent so we’d take care of the roughly ~30 minutes of work a day when we showed up then we’d all just peace out for a team lunch and leave for the day. None of us were about to hang out kicking rocks for 10 hours a day because it was fucking retarded. Meanwhile every other team...sat in the company.

The military doesn’t have to be as difficult as some people made it. The shit that really matters like training, or job performance down range is almost like tertiary at this point behind doing slideshows or mopping the company parking lot.

Mecha suits with rocket boosters, shoulder ordinance. and hydraulic shocks and infrared targeting helmets

>While you were shitting into a hole out in the middle of nowhere I was fresh out of college making 120k a year because I actually have enough of a brain to apply myself

lol, I work in tech too. You didn't make $120k a year because you "applied yourself," you made $120k a year because you work somewhere with a massively inflated cost of living. Unless you're a fullstack prodigy, nobody is paying your cherry ass $120k in Montana to write sloppy code that a senior dev is just going to have to fix later anyways

>I feel sorry for you, bootlicker

Yeah, things are clearly going swimmingly for you... shitposting on Jow Forums trying to flex on randos because ???????.
Why are depressed people always so angry and hostile? You know you could buy prostitutes with some of that money, right? I could see that helping a lot

didnt read your whole post but

>no niggers
>no women
>no foreigners
>be 95% white men with a scattering of spics to use as brown spys