Assuming that the majority of Jow Forums is in favor of weapons possession by civilians (I may get burned on this one)...

Your poll is missing "I hate all forms of religion and actively seek their destruction."

And am I born to die?
To lay this body down?
And must my trembling spirit fly
Into a world unknown,

A land of deepest shade,
Unpierced by human thought,
The dreary regions of the dead,
Where all things are forgot?

Soon as from earth I go,
What will become of me?
Eternal happiness or woe
Must then my portion be:

Waked by the trumpet's sound!
I from my grave shall rise,
And see the Judge, with glory crowned,
And see the flaming skies!

And see the Judge, with glory crowned,
And see the flaming skies!

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Name a more Jow Forumsristian song

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Please learn word definitions. All religions by definition are cults and vice versa.

When the Man Comes Around is one of the most powerful songs I know of

I'm mozzlem

What is the Jow Forumsube exactly?

>doesn't know about the murder/k/ube
Have things really gotten to this point?

The Murder/k/ube was (and still is) an art project done by some liberal faggot made out of decommissioned firearms and put on display in a few places in Canada.
Jow Forums built and based it's own religion on it, some kommandos even making pilgrimages to it.
There's even a document out there that's all about said religion.

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All of us were newfags at one point. Although should lurk more, at least he is interested in our shit

Roman Catholic
There are no other 'religions' there is just one religion.

But that's false.

Roman Catholic reporting in

Roman Catholic.
Orthobros are welcome.

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whats your agenda OP? Not trying to be hostile but Im curious
Im for civilian ownership of all small arms and mildly religious

arent you guys the ones with the kiddie diddler priests, have some really important high priest type thing that promotes islamic immigration, and literally washes muslim feet for them to tread on yurope?

What if I LARP something I don't believe in for Platonic "Noble Lie" purposes

That must be real comfortable with so many guns pointed at you laughing my FUCKING ass off shake my damn head my head.

Not exactly but I do consider myself quite superstitious.

Which seems weird.

I certainly believe in many Christian doctrines, and there is an all-powerful, all-knowing entity ho is enjoy the rube Goldberg machine that is reality...

But I don't do much to show my appreciation despte how, overall pretty damn good my life's been and how lucky I've been.

Oh, I'm not saying my life has no meaning and I'm depressed or anything, I didn't mean for it to sound like that. I have a lot to live for a thoroughly enjoy life, I'm just convinced we're here due to absolute chance so I'm going to make the best of it
Please learn how those words are used socially, regardless of what definitions say. Those words have different connotations in casual conversation, and if you left your mother's basement every once in a while, you'd figure it out with relative ease.

orthodox christian
Don't care too much about it but if the patriarchs call for me to rise and go kill sand niggers with my blessed AK I won't ask questions
"Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Dead on, that’s the entirety of what the Catholic Church is

Yeah I'm conservative Jewish. Fucking stop trying to take my guns other Jews. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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Solid thread OP. Actually of interest to me.

>favor of weapons possession by civilians
Yes, I am
>are you religious?
Not religious or spiritual at all

Athiest, but literally couldn’t care less if other people are religious.

Ave Nex Alea

same

atheists who reeee about religion make me cringe

Does worshiping Julius Caesar as a god count?

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I'm a catholic, probably going into seminary once I get my degree. Tried other stuff and found it didn't suit me. Still debating between my local diocese, which is pretty traditional but if the bishop gets changed that could change, and something like the FSSP where I will have the upwards mobility of a plastic bag filled with bricks if the pendulum doesn't swing back but at least I'll be left alone to chant latin in a tiny church somewhere until I die.

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I don't see why we should have religion in the first place. There is no purpose for it other than to give people an easy way out from creating their own moral structure. To quote MC Ride: "to pray is to accept defeat"
Other than that, the bible is just a boring read overall.

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I'm not religious. I don't think we were made by a god.

OK NEETche

What were we made by then?

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I think all extant life on earth has a common ancestor, and humans are basically one twig on the tree of life. We evolved from an earlier species and we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees, and that ancestor lived about six million years ago.

See, I can’t see life happening within our universe’s structure and limits without some sort of guiding force shaping the beginning of life. I don’t see how life randomly occurs out of a chaotic and destructive cycle of energy like our reality, so I believe in at least some form of higher power. Either one lonely god in a void basically hallucinating an existence, or a group contributing to it in their own ways who had much more direct influence but at some point either died out or just left. “God” is a word we use to lable a concept that’s past our comprehension, if it/they exist. Which I believe needs to happen for our universe to develop life.

There's a man
Goin' round
Takin' names

Filthy papist

Missouri Synod Lutheran checking in

Just because you don't understand one method doesn't mean it's false. I don't see how people can believe that the common scientific belief on the start of life is so crazy but an all powerful god can just whip up some living beings on a whim is totally acceptable.

There’s a reason Protestants left, because Catholics are insufferable retards who think they’re “God’s Chosen”, like the equally annoying Jews.

Yeah,this poll isn't gay,unlike you.

I think conditions needed for abiogenesis once existed on Earth. Nowadays if it happened again that sort of primitive life form would just get eaten by bacteria.

If we were created by a god then that produces the same problem as panspermia. It just shifts the question of the origin of life to a different place. If life is so complex it needs a creator them God also meets that criteria. He's so complicated he needs a creator too.

Maybe we are a hallucination or simulation. There are arguments to be made for the latter which have terrifying implications in my opinion.

I don't know what the limit of human understanding is. If God is what is past our comprehension, he shrinks every year. I understand things my own mother doesn't. I hope the trend continues.

Haha atheist fags BTFO

Cvltvs Deorvm reporting in

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baptistfag here
inb4
>the protestant church is cucked by the joos you fucking mutt

the holy Jow Forumsube is a mass made of guns that was created by God himself. praise Jow Forumsube

Was raised Catholic, but then I became an edgy teenager and stopped practicing, denounced God and all that. After that, I guess you could say I was agnostic for a while. Didn't really believe there was a God, but couldn't say for certain and I wasn't antitheist.

Once I graduated I started looking at religion again because I was going through some shit. Briefly considered Buddhism and then Thelema, but Buddhism was just too hippie for me and Thelema was just way too fucking weird.

Now that I've been out of school for a while and have moved back to my hometown, I'm planning on coming back to the Catholic church.

Well, it looks like you've had a roundabout journey.
Protestantism is inherently flawed and illegitimate, but I'll admit the Church has been kind of cucked since Vatican II. I blame the baby boomers.
Niggas be like *looks out 40,000 schisms over any different interpretation* "Yup, Pastor Jim's Bible Church is the correct denomination!" lol
Our universe cannot possibly exist without a higher being, as it would have broken the laws of thermodynamics for the big bang to occur. Reality cannot break its own rules.
Nihilism is a religion of worshipping nothingness. Poop your pants whiny baby.
One of my greatest disappointments is having no nearby Latin Mass near me :(
Why do you guys hate Jesus?

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My thought is more based on my understanding of entropy. I could be totally missing it here, but it doesn’t make sense for me for the universe to generate life in a state of chaotic decay. That doesn’t mean my thoughts are right, of course, and I don’t think it actually matters because we’re in the reality we’re in and no amount of theology or philosophy changes that.

The “god needs a creator” idea is valid, but is a problem for the ‘god’ level of existence, not ours. If the level of existence that created ours has a similar difference in comprehension then we wouldn’t be able to comprehend that level even further.
If we’re a hallucination, we’re likely pretty much just tiny fragments of the same whole entity, which makes the conflict filled nature of life interesting to think about. I avoided mentioning the simulation idea, because honestly if you think about it that just makes the system simulating the universe god and the entities who set it up as god’s creators.

I enjoy this topic of discussion because even if there’s a definite right outlook none of us will know for sure what it is. As long as people get to have their own thoughts without being venemous towards others with different thoughts, it really doesn’t matter where you think we came from.

agnostic but i believe in a higher power, not sure what it is and im not confident in any organized religion.
just living my life.

No, religions are for retards.

Catholics especially are the most hypocritical douchebags ever. The catholic church has literally never been a force of good, ever. Aside from being child molesting shitfucks, they also helped thousands of Nazis escape the allies, including Joseph Mengele. Every catholic I've ever met seems to maintain a surface-level goodness which is just a front for self-assured, sanctimonious arrogance. But that isn't to say that Jesus wasn't a good guy who had good ideas.

Protestants are extremely gullible and often very stupid. These are the same people who send money to Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyers. But I do like the decentralized structure, which prevents the excesses of the Vatican.

Most muslims are cunts too, especially the Arabs. Some of them are okay I guess. I like that giving alms is one of the five pillars of Islam, but that's about it.

Jews are alright as long as they don't 1) support Israel or 2) actually practice their backwards beliefs. Hasidic Jews can fuck themselves.

Sikhs are pretty cool I guess. I like satanism because it pisses off christians when I point out that Satan was basically right all along, is responsible for all human free will, and actually fits in far better with a democratic worldview. His only real crime was defying god, and let's just face it, god is a fucking asshole. Satan never murdered an entire city. God did so multiple times for basically no reason. Not that I actually believe any of it, but satanist chicks are fucking hot and cool to hang out with.

should we have Jow Forumsarbon wednesday?

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>Our universe cannot possibly exist without a higher being, as it would have broken the laws of thermodynamics for the big bang to occur. Reality cannot break its own rules.

Firstly, that's not true. We know too little about the beginning of the universe to understand exactly how it unfolded, but we at least have evidence for the Big Bang. Thermodynamics on earth are just too simplistic to account for spacetime phenomena and quantum mechanics.

We have no evidence of a higher creator. The burden of truth is on you to prove it, and the lack of explanation for something is not justification for you to substitute some stupid made-up bullshit about a desert hobo being the son of god in the place of a scientific answer. Leave it to a catholic to completely misunderstand how the scientific method works.

Lurk more or google it

I’d feel confident in saying that at least half of the people who post here now are zoomers who have been here less than 2 years and either expect to be spoonfed on board culture or shun it.

burn the ignorant heretic

> but we at least have evidence for the Big Bang
Yes, a Catholic theory. Which implies a higher being. Energy doesn't just come into existence, as that would break the laws of thermodynamics. "Muh quantum poopoo peepee-" the theoretical ramblings of random professors have absolutely no testing and should be given no more care than a drunkard's ramblings on calculus. There isn't any logical or empirical proofs to back them, so why should anybody care?
> The burden of truth is on you to prove it
Where've you been the past 8 centuries?
web.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/web publishing/aquinasfiveways_argumentanalysis.htm
>some stupid made-up bullshit about a desert hobo being the son of god in the place of a scientific answer
thoughtco.com/lord-liar-or-lunatic-c-s-lewis-249782
Yup, leave it to a gaytheist to have no critical thinking.

Lent is almost here user, it's the perfect time to go to church again

God, these sources were bad user. This post...was the most illogical shit I've read this week. I feel like Christians are working to make me lose my faith.

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>from a catholic theory

A theory made by a catholic =/= a catholic theory. Look at Mendel's work on genetics, and the consistent anti-evolution stance that is the official church policy.

The big bang was a brilliant extrapolation of direct observation-- solid evidence which does NOT imply any kind of higher power on its own, contrary to what your friend St. Thomas Aquinas seems to think. You'll notice that the conclusion of every one of his thesis is to simply answer each and every question with "it's gotta be god" at the end, as in the passage: "Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as God."

As with most catholics, he has no evidence to support this conclusion, just lack of a better answer. And in addition, he has no additional direct evidence to support his hypothesis either. His hypothesis is not testable in any way, shape or form. Therefore, the burden of proof is on him, to devise a test which lends credence to his argument, which he cannot do, because it's bunk.

Similarly to your argument regarding the big bang. The only thing that is supported by direct evidence is that an event happened which created the universe, and no amount of maneuvering on your part is going to twist that simple premise into supporting a hypothesis about an all powerful man in the sky.

And just because you're too stupid to understand quantum physics does not mean that they aren't real or testable. We've already observed that light functions as both a wave and a particle using basic tests, we can directly observe phenomena like gravitational lensing around stellar bodies which are highly consistent with the predictions of general relativity, and quarks and other subatomic phenomena have been directly confirmed using particle accelerators.

I'm not even going to comment on the fucking retardation of that last link.

if I could find a strain of christianity around me that I could respect I would be a church goer.
everything is either fag loving methodists, refugees welcome evangelicals or non denominational bullshit with tvs and guitar.

if I could find a fucking austere protestant or orthodox church that actually hated jews and treated the word of god with solemnity and weight behind it I could get on board.
but the only orthodox church near me is armenian and they are just as bad as jews if not worse.

any jew hating lutheran or presby or orthodox churches I should look into?
>inb4 mormon or catholic
yeah fucking right

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same, lent is also about to start

Hating about jews isn't a religion. It's retarded. You're retarded.

>Oooooooh I wonder who's behi

No, you're retarded.

Jeebus was a Jew. Where's your God now?

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cool man. Im not one of those guys who blames jews for usury or open borders and flooding the west with 3rd world immigrants.
whats your name and address? we could go shooting some time maybe? bring some of your family members along. hell invite the whole temple.

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listen all Im saying is that jews have spent hundreds of millions at the top ladders of christian organizations in the USA to completely buy them off and it sickens me
evangelicals are the worst. but everything else isnt that far behind.

I wish martin luther would come back to us. him and andrew jackson could really clean this world up.

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To summarize it neatly, the big difference between catholics and scientists is that while scientists propose many hypotheses and test many in order to find the one that produces repeatable results consistent with predictions, which then becomes an established theory, Catholics propose one hypothesis, disregard all others, do not attempt to test it, but accept it as truth anyway.

Science doesn't ask you to accept any absolute truths. That's why they're called theories-- subject to change upon the discovery of new evidence, or to be expanded upon.

Catholic theology is based on a hypothesis-- an educated guess (although the "education" is suspect). And yet you fucking catholics have the arrogance to proclaim that you've found the ultimate truth, without any evidence whatsoever, and premise your entire lifestyle based on that. If you just told me that I should follow Jesus's teachings because they were good (they were) and left out all of this complete voodoo horseshit about some dickhead on a cloud, then I could get on board. But instead, all of you are a bunch of self-righteous cockwads, who have never done humanity any sum good whatsoever, and I do genuinely mean that.

It's just as well, you sound like a hateful dickhead who can't seem to understand the utter irony of your beliefs, and I would much rather prefer people like you don't get any acceptance from society, and die alone and unloved.

Martin Luther was a shithead. Literally his only saving grace was acknowledging that the church was a corrupt, pedophile, thieving piece of shit. Then he started another movement that did the same thing. Religion is trash.

Roman Catholic Practicing the Latin Rite of the mass you ATF faggot.

yuck. gun yourself in the face.

Yeah, yeah. The data booth is that way: strawpoll.me/17542614/r

LURK MOAR

Brother what state are you in?

I devoutly believe in the divine designs gifts delivered to us by our prophet, John Moses Browning (Blessed be his name).

Based

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Good ol’ Michigan

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hello fellow people
sure sucks we werent chosen

but did you know that jesus was jewish? doesnt that mean we should protect jews and keep them safe? and israel also?
I mean there isnt anything in the bible or subsequent christian theology about hating jews.
we should do what we can to protect their precious blood and slave away for the chosen people trusting that god will bless those that bless them. because thats how it works.

just leave it alone david or Im gonna post dozens of social media posts by jews gloating and celebrating about murdering jesus christ.

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damn, I'm right over in Shillinois. I don't know many of the Latin Rite Masses over in Michigan

>Nihilism is a religion of worshipping nothingness
One cannot worship the absence of something.
Grow up. You're believing in a shitty fictional fantasy novel that clearly copies the epic of gilgamesh for part of it, has changed countless times since the beginning (for example, the first copies didn't even have satan) and has disprovable assertions in it (for example the earth being 6000ish years old)

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>caring about whether or not god exists and holding the bible up to literal translations
>not only that but allowing it to stop you from letting the love and strength of jesus christ our lord and savior into your life to better illuminate a rewarding life that can bring happiness not only to you but your family, loved ones and community

get a load of this guy
listen if you dont want to accept christ into your life you better be able to answer the riddle of steel and live your life along the lines of that answer

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>just leave it alone david or Im gonna post dozens of social media posts by jews gloating and celebrating about murdering jesus christ.
OH NO, please NO

I’m Jewish. Let the shitstorm begin!

Buddhist
Would love to see some warrior monks send some smoking hot dharma down range at those Chinese fucks.

Lol you don’t obey your covenant and rejected the Messiah who fulfilled it.

lol how do people believe shit that is this silly?

I was raised catholic, with private school and the works, and while I certainly lean towards it I disagree with a few things. I can't follow Judaism because for every transcendental life poem in the Torah, there are the ten weird rules about what to do when around a menstruating woman, and the blatant supremacist rhetoric that permeates Jewish thought and culture seems churlish to me. Islam doesn't do it for me due to any study that isn't a natural science being considered haram, along with the entire "submission to God" angle. Doesn't help that ol' Moe was as much a political leader as a spiritual one, which doesn't gel with me too well either. Most Eastern faiths are too mired in mysticism for my liking, so that's out. Protestantism started out well meaning enough, but lost the plot hard over time.

All in all, Judaism is a weak minded ideology, Islam needs a Reformation and a Caliph in a place that is a actually stable, the East is too mystical to be considered outside of metaphor.

t. undercover zoomer

You might as well just ask if there are non-Americans on this board.

Believes are something you can learn though. It doesn't sound intuitive, but it's possible.
Takes a lot of work and dedication though, and I'm relatively certain that you, just like most people aren't willing to go through the necessary steps to reshape your world.