What gets through level IV?
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40 grain 22-250
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The newest meme handgun caliber, .357sig
everything level 4 isnt rated for
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45mm glock and wesson
Multiple shots.
>rated to stop .30-06 armor piercing
.50 cal, obivously
or some kind of tungsten, sub-caliber round
a second hit
Tungsten core 308, maybe tungsten core 556.
300 win mag with m2ap projectile. I saw it on a video it zips past lv4 ceramic armor. 165 grain hard steel projectile at 3000+ fps..
m193 will defeat lv3 steel armor out of a 20 inch ar, which pushes the bullet(55gr lead) at 3050 fps.
The spalling in your chin and throat
High brass 12ga Slug, won't penetrate, but it'll fuck them up nonetheless
armored cone of shame attachment when
Yeah, you don't necessarily have to penetrate. Just transfer enough energy to them that all their organs turn to mush.
False
that doesnt happen with solid plates retard
lvl 5 bullets
shoot them in the head or pelvis
Energy transfers regardless of what it's made of. Its literally one of the basic laws of physics.
Energy transfers to your shoulder too, nerd. But it transfers at different rates, and in the case of ceramic plates, sideways along cracks instead of into the body.
Incendiary.
He was saying your organs wouldn’t turn to mush, not that energy wouldn’t be transferred you fucking idiot
Not if it can vibrate (i.e. the wave reflects rather than transmits).
>basic laws of physics
>doesn't understand highschool tier physics
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Holy shit. Fucking brainlet. It spreads to the plate, which has the surface area of your chest. Which pushes against your whole chest. The deformation is minimal to not even that great. You're mixing up Kevlar soft vests with plate vests.
A face full of 00 buck
Does the armor have daddy issues?
I think napalm might make it through...(;
No, just anyone who wears it outside of their job
50 bmg
Martini henry
Ied
Brutal.
Idk man it doesnt really do much. A 12 gauge slug wont even knock a person down if your hitting a hard plate.
It didnt go through
22-50 dang, hard plate bruhs
>Energy transfers regardless of what it's made of. Its literally one of the basic laws of physics.
A rifle bullet hit the target with about the same energy then the gun imparts on the firer's shoulder (slightly less, in fact), and yet getting shot *in* the shoulder with is decidedly more traumatic than shooting *from* the shoulder. Explain that. Once you can explain it, you'lll understand why simple energy transfer to a solid plate is insufficient to "turn organs to mush".
>40 posts
>no MUH DICK
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you're telling me that M193, not even 855, can beat lvl3 Steel armor? That seems a little ridiculous, got a source?
will the new 6.8 and 6.5 CT loads penetrate level 4?
Speed has more to do with defeating armor than a mild steel penetrater. M193 only beats a few types of level 3 steels and some companies make a level 3+ just for it.
It should be a quick google m8
if the projectile has a tungsten penetrator, sure
gonna be replacing barrels pretty frequently, but them's the breaks
>300 win mag with m2ap projectile
Yeah that sounds like it would do the job and is actually obtainable. Got a video or anything?
Now I just need a 300WM AR
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Energy also can be transferred or spread throughout and object. Its literally part of one of the basic laws of physics
ceramic tipped hardened steel bullets
NO PASS THROUGH, NOT EVEN 44MM OF BACKFACE DEFORMATION (44MM IS WHERE INTERNAL INJURY STARTS)
HOW CAN TOUGHBOIS BE POKE POKED??? BULLETS ETERNALLY BTFO
didnt watch the test, the 150 soft point stopped but m2ap got clean passes both trys.
hardbois no match for fastbois
lol, my car didn't cost that much
See
Aim at their fucking feet and legs
this and even just pelvis and guts. plate doesnt cover a large portion
I'm curious how the M2 projectile will penetrate with even hotter loadings. In 300 win mag it will go through lvl IV. What about in a .300 RUM, or .30-378 Weatherby?
> doesn't knock down
Nothing short of a .50 will really 'push' someone over, but with a higher-brass shell you will definitely break some ribs, knock air out of their lungs and squish a few organs, more than enough to take them out of the fight unless they're hopped up on stims.
>HANS! ZHE SHELL CAN'T PENETRATE ZHE INFANTRIE MAN'S ARMAHR!
>IT IS USELESS VILHELM! ZHAT BODY ARMAHR IST RAETED VOR 45MM PROJECTILES
>SCHNELL JOHANN! LOAD ZHE HEAT SHELLS, UND TELL SCHNEIDER TO HIT ZHOSE MANNER IN ZHE FLANK!!!
.338 would fuck your day up if you were wearing body armor.
.338 lapua*
.22
it'll bounce around the body, especially since the armor will block it from creating an exit wound
Can anyone explain how the "bounce around in your skull" idea got misunderstood as "bounce around in your body"? Is is something you memers do on purpose to try and be funny? Or is this a classic example of the 'telephone game' aka Chinese Whispers?
A flamethrower.
But what if they don’t have any, what them genius?
It's a meme, you dip.
Hey i have autism too!
Yeah, but I'm curious how the meme changed from skull to body.
you say that, but you didn't answer the question I asked, so I'm calling BS on that.
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>or .30-378 Weatherby?
Christ almighty. I just looked that up. Apparently they were getting 5000....6000 fps out of some kind of super-light bullets in military testing? I wonder what kind of AP performance that will have. that's just insane.
I remember being in junior year physics too
It's not your fault, they like to teach shit unnecessarily slow and space out crucial information over the course of years
This sound familiar?
>start new grade
>"alright we're gonna be learning ______ and this is how you do it
>its really long and tedious and complex at times but it's the ONLY way and if you try it this way you'll get a wrong answer"
>spend the whole school year doing it, spending 10 minutes on a single problem
>next school year comes around
>"Remember this from last year? Yeah it's a total joke, here's a much faster and easier way to do it
>also heres a long overdue explanation that's more in depth so you have a much better understanding of it now, even though we'll probably never touch this subject again"
speed is the key
I guess so...
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>44MM IS WHERE INTERNAL INJURY STARTS
Apparently you believe that the NIJ Standard is not shit.
>I'm curious how the meme changed
It never changed. I have heard fudds saying this since at least the 1980s. It was never just the head, so far as I know.
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no shut up
When will brainlets learn that the energy of a round hitting someone is about the same as the energy that hits the shooter of said round.
It came from the head. That's the origin of the meme: .22LR to the back of the skull, execution style....which makes at least SOME sense given that a bullet could bounce off of bone.
Yet somehow this changed to "body" rather than "skull". I'm curious if this was deliberately done for humorous purposes, or if it was a detail that got confused as the meme spread between people. It sounds like it was the latter. Clearly nobody was making funny internet memes in 1980.
You abalist scum, people without legs or feet can don body armor too!!!!!
Physics is hard
>Yet somehow this changed to "body" rather than "skull".
The first time I heard an iteration of this it was "ping pongs inside your rib cage". This was before I ever heard about the skull version.
>I'm curious if this was deliberately done for humorous purposes, or if it was a detail that got confused
My vote is retardation and not humor. I did not hear this being ironically stated until several years ago.
>It sounds like it was the latter.
That's your opinion.
>Clearly nobody was making funny internet memes in 1980.
Fudds have been making themselves ridiculous for over a century; hence the fact that the Jews made millions of dollars off of ridiculing them in their cartoons. Fudds being retarded has no anchor point in the internet age.
Damn...
>The first time I heard an iteration of this it was "ping pongs inside your rib cage". This was before I ever heard about the skull version.
Same here. But the skull version seems like the logical source of the meme, since that's the one application where there might actually be a "bounce-around inside" scenario. The other examples sound like the result of retardation applied to that.
>>That's your opinion.
Indeed it is, though it sounds like we agree. You voted for retardation and not humor as well.
>>Fudds being retarded has no anchor point in the internet age.
Exactly, that was my point too.
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Level IV is not better than level III+
You got your chocolate in my peanut butter.
300 win
Level IV will stop lead 300WM. Yeah it's not part of the test but lead 300WM is easier to catch than M2AP
you need a penetrator
A bomb
M993 will punch right on through it, no problem. Can't beat that cuntsten targlide
>there
gotta SLAP a bitch sometimes
It's been a long time since I researched SLAP, but I though that while the .50 SLAP worked great, the .30 version failed hard because the penetrators would exit the side of the barrel?
It's the same energy as goes into your shoulder. Against the plate, the mass of the plate absorbs energy, and the area of the plate against your chest disperses the remaining energy over a larger surface area. Not to mention clothes and gear as well as your ribcage itself eating up energy.
>no problem
Not quite. Under 25 yards maybe depending on achieved velocity, but beyond that it wont reliably do it from a 16" barrel or shorter; 50 yards and out it will not with a single shot.
Is M2AP steel core? And can it pen lvl 4 in a .308?
>Is M2AP steel core?
Yes
> And can it pen lvl 4 in a .308?
If it cant penetrate level 4 in 30-06 which is throwing it faster, why would it penetrate in 308?