Are there any cons to adding a side saddle and flashlight to a shotgun?

Your pajamas don’t have tactical pockets?
Pleeb!

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Not really, but I wouldn't get the side saddle in your picture. If you're gonna use one, get a velcro one. It's lighter, easily removable which allows you to switch out various sizes of shell capacity easily, oftentimes cheaper, and usually allows for more color options.

Flashlights I know nothing about, but it can't hurt to have one I suppose.

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What if you could put shells in some metal box that attaches to the gun

I’ve got an elastic sleeve on my sxp.

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Lol poor fag

I don’t like crap on my gun. The sleeve comes off as soon as the shotgun leaves my house.
I kid uses it to hunt

>My

If you can't kill someone with the 1-4 shells in your shotgun you're fucked anyway. Learn to aim, tactical reloads are only a thing in videogames.

it's impressive how angry you've made people by saying that.

>not sleeping with shotgun shells in your pocket

>pocket
>not tactical fanny pack
I operate on another level

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But what if Jamal has friends?

fags wanna defend their $60 block of added weight

most shotgun accessories are memes, they look cool but they're memes

Retard

noguns

The light is going to throw the balance off a little. Not that this matters much in a pump action.

Shells tend to be brightly colored so you're easier to see. Not by much thou.

Yes, but I like the look of side saddles.

AMMO BELTS FUCKER

Perhaps you've heard of them?

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jamal and his friends are known to be cowards. when you start shooting, they start running.

MY GOD A FLOATING HEAD

weight, and the saddle can be inconvenient if you mount it in a bad spot. The question is, what kind of HD situation do you envision yourself being in where you need a minimum of 12 rounds of buckshot to resolve it.

Never know when a T-800 will pop up

The only man I know who wears a fanny pack is a former operator that uses it to CC a Walther PPK. This has given me a natural wariness when I see older white men out in public wearing fanny packs.

>t. Joe "Loli Ridin'" Biden

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>unobtrusive
>Inconspicuous
>easy to draw from
>large enough for a small handgun
Shit, fanny packs are operator

>go to compete
>dont need no sidesaddle all i need is shells in muh pocket
>slowly fumble shells out of your pocket because sidesaddle is too mall ninja for you

Imagine the possibilities!

>Not carrying a shell in each of your cheeks and 3 up your ass at all times to be prepared.
Fucking pathetic.

Fuck no

Fucking Wendego

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That little old babushka walking her dog every morning? She knows.

I noticed Secret Service were sporting fanny packs in Europe when they were protecting Michelle Obama a few years ago.

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I was just about to say the same, holy fuck are these guys taking it personally.

You're gonna be doing tactical reloads against the one or two niggers trying to steal your TV? Any shotgun I'd consider putting a saddle on has at least a 7 round capacity, and I highly doubtful I'll need to top off in my own home.

Though there's arguably not much reason to not adding a saddle, assuming you have the money.

>Not topping off your buckshot with a sabot when the gigaultrajigga appears

>only man I know who wears a fanny pack is a former operator that uses it to CC a Walther PPK
I know a similar guy, also has a longarm and bug out bag in every room of his house and is one of the few people I've ever met who could do that and not sound like a larping fag.

I wouldn't worry about it.

you look like a tacticool faggot, otherwise no issue

Dude I have an adidas fanny pack that is big enough to fit a Beretta 92, a spare mag and a pack of cigs or flask.

MUH WEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
start lifting you pathetic cuck

I just keep a few different shells on the stock with painters tape wrapped around it

Impressive. How do they handle?

Certain times with Mossbergs the saddle will cover the serial number that located on the left.

>STERT LIEFTIN FAG
That was a strong statement on the practicality of that meme added weight on a weapon that you might be carrying on for miles creating unnecessary fatigue

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Making a shotshell sling for my Shocker.

Cheap 2nd hand leather Garand sling off the Bay. Cheap Chinese, (real leather), shotshell holder. Old rawhide shoelaces from the kitchen drawer.

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Can someone explain why a shockwave is "not a shotgun" or whatever that meme is?

And what's the advantage versus having something common with a full stock and 18.5inch barrel?

I figure odds are I will never be in a confrontation where I need more than 2-3 rounds. But if there is even a 1000th of a percent chance my life would hinge upon me needing more than 5 rounds I might as well treat it like an absolute certainty. Considering that what is the negative to adding a side saddle?

I expect they kick like a down syndrome mule

>HD shotgun
>carrying it for miles

How fucking big is your house?

So, should I go with the plastic or the velcro? I heard people sometimes fuck up the gun by pinching the receiver with the plastic ones.

And I guess no light or sling would be better considering I live alone and I don't see how a sling would help inside the house

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You're not wrong. Anyone who disagrees with this, find me even one instance of a civilian (that is not also a law enforcement officer) using a shotgun in self defense that used/required more than 2-3 shells in their defense. I've searched but havn't found even a single instance.

It doesnt have a stock or pistol grip and thus isnt a shotgun by legal definition. It's "anyother weapon".

There's nothing tactical about any piece of gear which prevents other people from seeing how erect you are.

By federal definition, a shotgun is designed to be fired from the shoulder. This is not.

Wait wait wait

Imagine if the metal box on your shotgun loaded the shells for you!

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It's designed to be "any other firearm" by not fitting into the legal definition for a shotgun/pistol/rifle.
>And what's the advantage versus having something common with a full stock and 18.5inch barrel?
None. Ironically, you'd be better off with any other firearm than a shitwave.

The recoil is no joke, especially in a light weight pump gun.

What are the cons though? If there is no cons then what is the difference if there is a side saddle or not?

Here's a more detailed explanation. Part of the legal definition of a shotgun is that it is designed to be fired from the shoulder. If a firearm does not and has never had a stock then it does not meet the legal criteria to be considered a shotgun. As each shockwave was fitted from the factory with a bird's head grip (not a stock) it therefore is not legally a shotgun. Due to these firearms not legally being considered shotguns, they also do not have to abide by any laws concerning shotguns (like the 18" minimum barrel length).

So, if they're not shotguns then what are they? Part of the legal definition of both pistols and rifles are that they have rifled barrels. As the shockwave does not have a rifled barrel, it therefore does not meet the legal requirements to be considered a pistol or rifle. Any firearm which doesn't meet any of the legal requirements to be a shotgun, rifle, or pistol then fall into one of two categories: "any other weapon" (often abbreviated AOW) or just "firearm". Whether a firearm is considered an AOW or just a "firearm" depends on the overall length of the firearm. If it is 26" or longer of overall length then it's just a "firearm", but if it is shorter than 26" it's considered an AOW. AOW's are NFA items which require either a $200 tax stamp to create or a $5 tax stamp to transfer, whereas "firearms" are legally treated just like handguns (must be 21+ to purchase, but only requires a simple 4473 and no NFA paperwork to own/create).

TL;DR: The shockwave doesn't have a stock so it isn't a shotgun, doesn't have a rifled barrel so it isn't a rifle/pistol, and has an overall length of 26" or greater so it isn't an AOW. This makes it fall into the catch-all category of "firearm".

Best explanation I've read. Thanks!

not if you do it right

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Shotguns already tend to be heavy, so making them even heavier isn't helping much. The theoretical advantage of extra shells which statistically you're never going to use is outweighed by the actual advantage of a lighter shotgun. That being said, if the shotgun is going to be used for just home defense / fun at the range (IE, if you're not going to be marching around with it) then weight isn't that big of an issue anyways. All that's to say that there isn't really that much of a downside to having a side-saddle, but there isn't much real-world advantage to having one either.

BIG recommendation if you do decide to get one; don't get one that attaches through your receiver (like the one showed in OP's picture). Slap a rectangle of industrial strength velcro onto the side of your shotguns' receiver and get some velcro shell pouches that hold 4-5 shells. It's lighter weight, holds your shells as securely as most traditional side-salldes, can be replaced more easily and at less cost once it wears out, and wont potentially damage the receiver of mossberg pump shotguns (or any other shotgun with an aluminum receiver).

Protip for all you shotgun newbies. Put all your spare shells in a tube sock and now you have a melee weapon as well as spare ammo.

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25 rounds of these

sportsmansguide.com/product/index/remington-3-magnum-12-gauge-no-4-buckshot-41-pellets-5-rounds?a=1593371

>984 projectiles

the best part is vepr12 with brake makes magnum loads easy to control

be mad hoe they sell the tac-14's with that shit on it already nowadays

Specter Gear LOP shell holder mounts to your stock and adds a sling attachment point. No chance of fucking up your receiver pin holes like a metal side saddle could either. Another option to think about.

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>No chance of fucking up your receiver pin holes
if you're that much of a mongoloid you shouldn't be touching anything with moving parts

I have seen the metal side saddles develop some wiggle and turn round pin holes into oval pin holes after time.

gonna try some out in my wrist breaker

lol
who the fuck cares?

so what about a pistol grip mossberg?

see

But I already have a sword, faggot

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I always hear the ones you put on the stock move around

the canvas straps are of the correct size and it wraps around the butt where it would contact your shoulder so nothing moves, I have it attached to a sling as a rear attachment point so that may have something to do with it as well. No movement that I have ever seen though.

A specific con is if you're using a recoil-operated semi-auto Benelli, adding too much weight to the gun can cause cycling unreliability.

i dont have a stock on mine, just came with a pistol grip

>Considering that what is the negative to adding a side saddle?
weight and some semiauto shotguns using inertia systems won't cycle correctly unless you use a specific saddle and even then they are finicky

Not really, here's a Mesa Tactical 6 shell I put on my Mossman 5000.

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if it's over 26", you're good. If not, you're dog is going to get shot

No, put both on your HD gun. Light on your hunting gun will upset fudds and possibly game wardens but hey.

youtube.com/watch?v=zZiN9RiKNBQ

A pistol grip mossberg , so long as it came from the factory with just a pistol grip and has never had a stock put on it, is also just a "firearm". Often times, these specifically are referred to as "PGO" for "Pistol grip only".

Your receiver pin holes can be damed with a side-saddle simply from the recoil of the gun being fired. It can wear those holes down until the saddle/pins just fall out.

He literally starts talking about shooting dogs

IM MAD

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>not putting it on the top

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yeah, came in a waterproof tube
so the shockwave just added the goose head for the length and cut the barrel down a bit?
i imagine it wouldnt be legal to do myself. they look pretty cool, would like to put wood furniture on one, saw a picture of one floating around here
i think its 27" bought it new like that

Shotguns are memes. Only useful any more for killing birds, and birds are the most faggoty animal to hunt.

>so the shockwave just added the goose head for the length and cut the barrel down a bit?
Yep.

>i imagine it wouldnt be legal to do myself.
Perfectly legal to DIY as long as you start with a "firearm" and understand the limits you must stay in to keep it from being classified as something else.

There's little point in it, though. Shockwaves and Tac-14s are dirt cheap.