Why does vortex have such a bad reputation?

Why does vortex have such a bad reputation?

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because fudds thing anything built in china is automatically bad.

They dont, arg is full of retards pretending to be rich by posting pictures of their life savings.

This

Since when does Vortex have a bad reputation?

Vortex is pretty good

i have a sparc ar because I didn't fall for the t2 meme

Vortex is like the preferred brand there or do you still actually think /arg/ is a haven for richfags and isn't almost entirely made up of povertyqueers like you now?

i think part of the hate are people who say their econo optics are 'just as good' as high-end optics they've never actually looked through.

honestly as someone who neither hunts nor shoots people for a living, i can't justify spending more than like 400 bucks on an optic.

I just assumed that it wasn't good unless it was expensive

This, but this applies to every general.
Every general on this entire board is full of useless narcissistic faggots that do nothing but circlejerk.

Trip on faggot

I don't think the hate is towards the optic itself but rather the very loud userbase that tends to act like it's better/smarter than anyone who even dared get anything that wasn't budget oriented.

the old scope adage of 'your glass should cost twice as much as your gun' is complete boomer tier shit.

If I was a trip I'd wear it, because that is the nature of a tripping attention slut you retarded newfag. Check the general yourself, it's almost nothing but anons and a few dumbass trips that were too shunned to get invited to the discord hugbox made like a year ago. Get your shit straight.

Honestly, I questioned if the red dot from vortex is good, but I just couldn't see spending close to 800 dollars on a t2 if I wasn't sure I really wanted a red dot.

hobby generals have always been about who has the coolest thing, though.

Not really, the hate comes from
>i have a thing
>your thing isnt as good as my thing because i spent more money
>my ego tells me to shit on your thing
My entire job is centered around expensive penis extending objects, everybody has their ego wrapped up in the money they spent. This whole poorfag nonsense is just as other anons have said its narcissism, or an ego booster. Ignore them and carry on.

>bitter
Go on back to arg with your rejects

their poorfag likes ie. crossfire, strike eagle, what ever, made in assorted garbage countries in Asia.

Vortex Razor is the only 'good' Vortex. Vipers are decent/acceptable civilian tier.

I own a lot of budget gear (BCA barrel, Vortex Strikefire II) and it's no secret that it'll never be as good as a Criterion or an Aimpoint Comp M5. I just don't have the ability to drop $300 per part on my rifle and I'll freely admit it.

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are you really going to pretend it's that one-sided abd those with budget optics don't have insufferably smug opinions about themselves and their purchases as well? look at this fucking thread and maybe you'll be able to find a storage unit big enough for the cognitive dissonance you just shat out

>Newfag
I'm an AKgoon but you stay bitchmade, bitch.

>nothing good comes from asia
>disregard 99% of computer parts and cell phones please

>Akgoon
I dont even have anything for that, you just did it for me

Pure denial, the only people saying that are psuedo gucci fags posting on an anonymous image board with NAMES. its a meme and you fell full tits for it.

Fucking this, for ever nigger with cash posting
>hurrhurr you didn't spend $700 on an aluminum tube with an LED in it? Pleb
there is at LEAST one poorfag posting
>hurrhurr if you paid any more for an optic than the $200 I dropped on this Chinese aimpoint knockoff you don't shoot or just waste money

You're both fucking niggers and you're both too fucking stupid to see it and I hope both of you get gangbanged by AIDS infested Somalis.

I'm kind of a vortex fanboy since I gift a scope or red dot to family members who are shooters.

They're pretty good unless you want to pay top dollar for best of the best.

This shit is a hobby for me and people I know. Sure if I kick down doors and hunt bin laden for a living I'd let the tax payer shill for a leopold or aimpoint, but for ambushing deer and plinking steel, vortex is good enuff.

Best bang for a buck tier for guys who don't live and die by their optics choice.

facts

The high end shit is good and all but I agree it's mostly geared for real operators and not range/hunting. Vortex and holosun are solid for the majority of uses and hold up well enough

What they don't realize is that it is the best BECAUSE It's built in China. In a single stroke, the ever brilliant and industrious Chinese have manufactured one of the best product lines in weapons optics technologies. Using sophisticated quantum engineering, they have refined their labor into what can only be described as an art, with manufacturing being tailored and perfected to the molecular level, leading to a completely unrivaled platform of superior product quality and service guarantee. This paradigm of exceptionalism, tied with insurmountable work ethic and dedication to their craft, has proudly displayed and shared the fruits of the benevolent and wise Chinese dragon to the world, standing in stark contrast to inferior imperialist charlatans who peddle shameful and often counterfeit product. We truly live in blessed times and should be eternally grateful for our mutually beneficial cooperation and friendship with the great world power that is China.

Implessive!

Vortex, Primary, Burris all have ranges of shit. From the cheapest China made red dots all the way up to magnified optics with really good glass costing $2k+

The hate generally comes for the cheap-o red dots. It's fighting between the just as good crowd and the I only use Aimpoint/Trijicon/EOTech crowd.

The high end glass from Vortex is generally regarded as very good (not just for the price, very good by any measure)

I never heard of anything bad about them, they got low price point stuff to high end price point. All with the same warranty.

Someone just made a thread about the Strikefire 2. Probably OP

What are you talking about?

the 4.5-27 HD is one of the most common PRS scopes

Speaking of which what's the consensus on sig red dots? I have a romeo 1 I love but thinking of getting a 5 for an AR pistol

I watched a torture test on the Romeo 5 on Yt and was impressed enough to buy one. Hasn’t arrived yet, but I highly doubt I’ll be disappointed. Already have a PA micro dot, I think the Romeo 5 will definitely be a step, and the motion activated on and off is a great feature I’m looking forward to.

How do vortexes compare to holosuns?
I was leaning towards a holosun because they offer a circle in dot style reticle which I like from my limited glass experience.

Definite. Some family members, shooting buddies, and myself all have vortex optics. (Mostly on our fuddy durr rifles) Not priced bad & do what they're supposed to. Would purchase again & recommend. Not the best out there, but good for the price point.

The shotgun thread is usually pretty chill when it's up.

I have both, the Sparc on my range toy KelTec and the Aimpoint on my HD AR. Not everything needs a huge investment to shoot with.

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Obviously huge difference in price, but how do they compare? I got the sparc for the range so I can buy more ammo and other cool shit

Instagram meme pages and "elite" AR builders telling people to stop being poor.

I thought is was glass should cost at least half of the cost of the gun.

Because the Aimpoint PRO is only like $400, so there's no excuse to get a shitty vortex.

I get the 40% military discount for vortex so I'll always go with them.

For people who actually know how to shoot yes, for people who want to impress others on basketweaving forums no.

holosun dots are meh but their eotech ripoff is great

I don't think Vortex is bad as a whole, but some of their products are very inferior to competitor's in their price point but so many people just jump on a company's bandwagon that they don't realize they spend more R&D or material cost as a % for certain price points on products that they might be a really good value for X and Z but not Y. This is true for any company really. Pick what you want to spend and then do your research on who makes the best product for that specific price with the features you want.

glass? sure, cheap glass is shit 99% of the time but these aren't glass scopes. that adage is obsolescent.

Fuck of yang

I think it was correct years ago, but things are different now

I have some made in china aim point off of amazon for like $60, shits 2 years old, been dropped on quite a bit and still running like I just bought it. I just can't justify spending $300+ on a red dot.

Vortex produces a large variety of quality, made in China, Philippines or Japan.

The Japanese stuff is comparable to other high quality optics, but not necessarily up to the same standards of quality control.
... Most Japanese scopes if, vortex, primary, Nightforce etc. come out of the same factory. It's the the amount of triplechecking (you have to pay for) is what varies.

you mean the open housing one with the circle dot?
I've been considering that because I like how it looks but do open housing sights offer anything to a casual shooter like me?

Primary Arms is better

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Hands down the T2 is the better optic. Lighter, brighter, better glass, longer battety life, and more durable. If you can afford to go up to an Aimpoint, even a PRO, I'd highly suggest it.

The SPARC AR has a slight blue tint, but you really gotta be looking for it to notice. (This picture kinda overstates how blue it is) But it uses a common battery and the compartment and switch is built into the mount, so features that are kinda nice but not stuff I'd expect to survive a serious beating.

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Alright. I'll stick with the sparc for awhile until I can score a deal on an Aimpoint. Only paid 120 for it anyways, might look good on another gun in the future.

Yeah, until the inevitable stock vs raptorhead grip shit flinging starts

vortex scopes are fine, low budget options. Their red dots are currently a bit behind the curve in battery life and some key features, like shake awake

>hurrhurr if you paid any more for an optic than the $200 I dropped on this Chinese aimpoint knockoff you don't shoot or just waste money
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that and I've been coming here for the better part of ten years now. The only thing I see is poorfags try to stick up for themselves when people shit on the for not having good gear.

Can’t make generalizations about vortex. The difference between a strike eagle and razor is night and day.

Do the aimpoints have any tint to them? I thought the tint was a feature that I somehow don't appreciate. My primary arms is tinted as fuck, I'll actually get a better optic if I can get rid of the tint.

I love the acss reticle but the warranty of Vortex is so much better, no questions asked just send it in and you'll get it repaired or outright replaced to a brand new one.

It's fine. Aimpoint peeps just like to flex on Vortex as Vortex the cheapest you can get that's still acceptable quality. I mean gucci brands are better ofc but Vortex is fine for 99.99% of people.

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the T2 has barely any. Theres some but its the best ive ever seen from a red dot.

They make good traditional magnified optics

The problem with their red dots and prisms is the battery life is trash and they often mount to proprietary mounts. In the case of their 30mm tube dot, it has a giant button panel on the left that obstructs your view.

Optics have tint because it makes them able to harness the light of the emitter (the thing that projects the dot) better, making the dot brighter than it normally would be on untinted glass. This means battery life savings because for the same brightness, an optic with tinted glass has the emitter running at a lower power level.

They're great man.
Unfortunately Jow Forums and /arg/ specifically is MAJORITY nogunz and newgunz all telling eachother lies and talking shit trying to impress other nogunz/newgunz

It's always nice to see this comment so far up.
I love guns, but holy fuck, the number of people trying to flex by posting pictures of some shit they overpaid for and know nothing about.
WE GET IT DUDE, YOU'RE SUPER RICH AND SUPER COOL. Now let the adults talk.

There was a thread full of these turds shitting an user that posted a safe full of like 80 really nice guns, because ?????. I guess they just lack any type of communication abilities outside of Jow Forums NPC insults

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Not a bad plan. Brand new PROs pop up for around 300 every once in a while.
My T2 has no tint that I can make out, but from what I've heard some of the T1s and H series micros might have a very slight tint, but it's still way better than anything you'll see from most manufacturers. Pic related.

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Why would anyone unironically buy a vortex red dot when you can buy a holosun.

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Holy fug that picture is /arg/.

Is holosun any good? Real talk

>why would anyone buy Chinese garbage A when you can buy Chinese garbage B

They don't. Both PA and vortex actually have pretty good reputations. Never use Jow Forums as a primary info source, this place is for LARPing and shit talking, not learning.

Holosun is the best cheap red dot in my opinion. The battery life is god-tier and the build quality and dot clarity are phenomenal for the price.

thank you chang, 250 RMB has been deposited in your account and your social credit has increased by +0.003

tfw 3000 dollar laser yet 150 dollar red dot

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Works fine.

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ACOG or nothing

t. grug

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Based and red(dot)pilled.

can'taim/10

Its that one guy with the "just as good" 20g shockwave every time, desperately trying to convince everyone of how superior it is in every way. Should just put a trip on already.

Long nose tribe want pointy spike in club

>JUST AS GOOD

They used to be really good but Holosun is better now and Vortex is the "it's fine but why bother" brand now

Denalifag shilling his garbage AR and optic again, shoo shoo

>indoor range
>ss barrel

Very disrespectful

Love mine too, the motion on and off also works perfectly. They perform like an aimpoint for 1/6 the price.

Because they are budget tier optics for a budget price, but their fanbois think they are "as good" as aimpoint or trijicon.

Nobody says that here. You confuse "good enough" with "just as good".

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You’re a literal brain let who’s only thoughts are memes.

I thought that was just the entirety of the human race.

>the poorfag side has a subreddit listed as one of its things
typical

>brain let
Let me guess, you're only pretending to be retarded?

wow I got some really good deals for you bud

I got a 4-16x44 first focal plane Vortex new for $200. In comparison my nightforce 4-14x50 first focal plane was $1250. Yes, the vortex is not as clear or bright, doesn't have the same FOV, nor does it have an illuminated reticle, but it's good enough. Hell of a value for $200.

That's bullshit though. Glass is a technological leap forward on par with autoloading firearms. Even the worst shooter in the world would benefit greatly from clear, rugged red dot sight.

>If I was a trip I'd wear it
Weird bluff, but okay.

Half this thread bitches worse than Hillary voters.