Should i purchase a tracked apc for shtf?

pic related isnt armored but it has the most cargo space and you could theoretically add armor and weld up a bunker on the back.

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No. Rubber tracks wear out really fucking quickly, and that's what you're gonna be using. Get a wheeled one like a BDRM-2 or BTR.

even offroad?

Military surplus vehicles are unreliable, maintenance intensive, slow, and fuel hungry. You're not gonna be followed around by a maintenance crew and a tanker when you go innawoods.

couldnt you just make biodiesel and use more reliable western engines though? russians arent exactly known for making quality products. im sure a caterpillar diesel from a bulldozer would make it last forever.

You really don't know anything about trucks, do you?

i know that blyatkandans cant build them well.

Especially off-road.

>vehicle designed for certain load
>I can just weld thousands of pounds of armor to it!

Stop being retarded.

And before you bring up the killdozer that's an entirely different thing it was huge relative to it's armor and was a construction vehicle already.

>thousands of pounds
its a fucking t55 tank with a crew cab. it can handle it.

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Why do you need a reason to buy an apc, user?

I would not. A small Dual purpose motorcycle and a good pack will be better than this hulking behemoth.

Carry some spare fuel on racks for a 700 mile trip on 10 gallons. Can't beat that.

>This fucking guy

You'd be better off getting good at mountain biking

You will never be able to find parts for it in anyway, unless you live in Eastern Europe, even then, parts will be expensive. You better have access to a fullsized shop with the equipment to service it an manufacture new parts, which I doubt anyone on this board actually has. You're better off buying a 90s light truck, Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, et cetera

If you’re in North America you’re at a disadvantage when it comes to the practical armored vehicle market.
The US military hasn’t fielded wheeled armored vehicles in any real numbers since the m8 greyhound in ww2.
That means you are stuck with imported equipment, and let’s be honest literally all European vehicles are awful at reliability compared to American equipment and you won’t have any access to replacement parts.

Since the US military has almost never allowed military humvees to be sold on the civilian market, we’re kinda fucked.

Also, anything significantly armored is gonna guzzle fuel so unless you’re the mayor of gastown and sitting on ten thousand litres of guzzoline you aren’t going very far in your armor when cowabunga occurs.

A dirt bike is probably the best choice.

I didn’t mention the MRAP because I don’t think it’s possible for a civilian to buy a modern combat vehicle like that. We’re stuck with imported ww2/Cold War era equipment

They’ve been filtering onto the civilian market slowly over here. It’s an interesting option to have, but for every comment talking about how interesting it would be to have one, there’s a grunt saying they’re a maintenance nightmare and spare parts are difficult to come by.

Hmmwvs

theres no other option for armored vehicles here other than importing soviet stuff and ordering parts from europe. our military doesnt give its old toys to the goyim.

you could just order parts from european suppliers but youd have to wait a long time for them to arrive. if you order like 10 of everything you might be ok.

you can get parts. but in the case of a european vehicle an engine swap would save you lots of time and money in the long run. fv101 scorpions here have duramax engines in them

I can swap a Jeep 6 cylinder engine in my garage with my relatively comprehensive set of mechanics tools and my shop equipment such as engine crane and heavy duty stands.
I can even do a half ass rebuild without a machine shop (that would require a functioning power grid)
I’m probably more mechanically capable with vehicles than 99% of Jow Forums

There’s literally no way I service a Soviet Military vehicle engine and transmission.
Shit takes heavy duty specific equipment.
Replace an alternator or coolant pump, probably ok. Anything more and you need a heavy diesel shop and functioning power equipment.

thats mostly because of the size of the engine. yeah, a jeep engine is way easier to manipulate than a 40 liter v12.

Exactly. If we’re talking about cowabunga vehicles, you better have the armored car or tracked vehicle totally squared away before hand, and use it for a very specific bug out plan to your remote location, because once the infrastructure goes away it’s impossible to do major service on something of that scale. Militaries have vehicle recovery units with special equipment and rear area maintenance depots with more heavy equipment and a good source of parts, to keep these things in the field.

That engine swap will cost $30k, at least

It would be cheaper to just build your own.
Buy a truck frame and go nuts!

There's a bunch of good arguments for leaving tracked vehicles to the military, but the best of them is the fuel consumption. Two gallons per mile doesn't matter to the army since it brings fuel trucks with it, but for a civilian that's not exactly handy.

Woops. Two gallons per ten kilometers, not per mile.

You’d be better off just getting a horse

And it was not intended to run for long.

If you buy a brand new one, sure. That's not the only option though.

Hell, any of the relatively modern truck diesels would work. Cummins, Ford 7.3, etc.

not if you did it yourself. only lazy niggers pay someone else to fix their car.

Well... You're within your rights to LARP but know that tracked vehicles are a pain in the ass and their maintenance is a team effort so unless you have masochistic buddies who want to suffer through having to fix a track you walked off while bogged down then don't get one.

In 99% of cases you're better off with a good off-roader, winch and a chainsaw.

Industrial Diesels like a CAT 6 cylinder are expensive.

We Tactics nao

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>Since the US military has almost never allowed military humvees to be sold on the civilian market
>govplanet.com/Humvees
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You're honestly better getting a 4x4 or light truck and making a technical or overlander out of it. Maintenance will be much easier and parts won't be a bitch to find. Have fun trying to source parts for your soviet surplus vehicle when you can no longer import parts. You want to be faster, maneuverable, and more fuel efficient than the competition. The Toyota war is a good example of how technicals and off road vehicles can win the day.

>theoretically add armor and weld up a bunker on the back.
Tanks need infantry protection. This was the big lesson of the Winter War and the Eastern Front. So unless you have a platoon sized element of your buddies ready to go, rolling around in a tank on your own is a great way to get a molotov on the engine compartment. If it is really SHTF and people have a lot of time and a surplus of stuff who knows what kind of improvised anti-tank weapons will be floating around. Panzerfausts were dirt cheap and easy to make. The IRA made their own anti-armor weapon out of scrap and it was effective. An IED can easily throw a track or pierce the bottom if it is big enough.

>biodiesel
Stop

He wants to know if is good for SHTF, if he wants to buy it for the lulz, the he doesn't need a reason

>Hell, any of the relatively modern truck diesels would work. Cummins, Ford 7.3, etc.
A 6BT isn't going to substitute for a 40L 12 cylinder that that. Not only does it not make enough torque, but it also has a very different power band.

>not if you did it yourself. only lazy niggers pay someone else to fix their car.
You will need a 10 ton crane to pull that engine, because probably the whole body tub will need to be lifted off.

get it if ya want it big boi but this anons are right tracked vehicle are alot of work and no one will want to help you work on it but i would get a shop before i got another tank

Most military surplus vehicles are prohibitively expensive and time-consuming to maintain, especially when you're a crew of one.

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Tracked vehicles have their place but I suspect your circumstances do not warrant them.