Imagine using a AR with a barrel less then 20" long, imagine using m855 ammo as well.
KEK
Sub 20" AR's
Jason Peterson
Parker Foster
Thread quality sure has gone to complete shit tonight, what gives?
Adam Hill
16"mid gas is best gas
Dylan Russell
Hamplanet OP wants to feel better about himself.
Landon Miller
I don’t have to imagine it. I can DO IT.
Dominic Hall
mein neger
Matthew Rogers
>16"
>BCM
>cancer mag
>U.S flag engraving on cheap lower
Gavin Richardson
Good job
Tyler Garcia
Allrighty then recommend us a good upper. 20 inch 1:8 or 1:9 twist, preferably flat top. Alread have a carry handle hat needs a new home.
Lucas Adams
20" barrels are indisputably superior.
is the plebeians choice but still far better than a ghastly 16" on a carbine gas system.
Henry Nguyen
Not him but
You'ld have to be nuts to buy Del-Ton
Jacob Sanchez
Brody Brown
>16"
Yes, the 100-150 FPS loss in muzzle velocity is not worth all of an inch and a half off an already carbine length barrel
>BCM
Has never been an issue and the seal of approval by every firearms board and forum
>U.S. flag engraving
The vanilla receivers were out of stock at the time
>cheap lower
The lower and receiver extension are 7075-T6 with superior finishes and dimensions than any PSA or Anderson
Josiah Ward
Carter Sanders
>pencil barrel
>A2
u wot
Liam Fisher
It's a faxon gunner taper.
Balances beautifully.
Carson Mitchell
Why does your stock look like it was mauled by a dog
Eli Sullivan
user, that poster seems to believe A2 is defined by the sight/carry handle. Give him a moment.
Colton Watson
Cause it is a M16a2 surplus buttstock.
It's been engraved with different numbers.
Wyatt Hernandez
m193 master race
>needle dick
Carter Cox
You spelled 14.5" carbine wrong
David Adams
>pencil
>hogue grip
>fixed stock
you should beat yourself to death with it
Jackson Reyes
it could be a lot worse
Parker Martinez
And what does your 14.5" accomplish apart from not being a substitute for an 11.5"
Carson Davis
Your knowledge is shit and you should feel bad.
Cameron Nguyen
>Implying pencil barrels are inherently bad
Nicholas Allen
I don't need to SBR a 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device. Lighter weight though compared to 16" mid, although my pic isn't a light weight setup.
I can't really tell a difference in recoil between carbine and mid length so that doesn't matter to me, so I'll choose the shortest oal without having to put a brace on it.
I'll be honest though, my 20" rifle length is the most enjoyable AR i have to shoot. I just prefer a shorter setup which is why i stand by 14.5" carbine gas being the best gas
Logan Butler
it's ugly as fuck, and 16" + fixed stock is the worst of both worlds. Get a 20 + fixed or a 20 + adjustable like the canadians.
there's nothing wrong with fixed stocks or pencil barrels on their own. The hogue grips are fucking uggo too and not very good on rifles.
Joshua Thompson
Redpill me on m193. I bought a thousand green tips because they were 25 cpr. Why should my next thousand be m193?
Nathaniel Bell
M193 typically results in better fragmentation, tumbling, and/or yawing after impact as its light, 55 grain bullet travels faster than the heavier, 62 grain "green tip" of M855/SS109. However, since M193 was optimized for the SAAMI 223 chamber and 1:12 twist of the original, 20" M16A1, you may find it performing differently out of your carbine chambered in 5.56 NATO (presumably 1:7 twist), but almost certainly better than M855
Brody Campbell
Fuck the haters, I like your gun, keep posting it
Dylan Reed
ive handled a gun set up like this. despite looking horrible the balance and feel is top tier.
Hudson Young
You may not like it, but the midlength gas system with the A5 buffer system is what peak performance looks like
Camden Perry
ツ
Zachary Nelson
Chad carbine gas with 16" pencil barrel here
Daniel Harris
>unreliable
>shit ballistics
lel!
Samuel Mitchell
>3200FPS from a 20" ( as high as 3400 on a hot summers day with IMI not reccomended for a cheap rifle)
>penetrates body armor at close range
It's the best 5.56 you can get and is the cheapest.
Jason Reed
Anthony James
I admire your budget optic, what upper is it
Christopher Torres
>A5 buffer
Bruh, a flat wire spring and H buffer costs like $50 at most
John Rivera
Poorfag alert
Just buy the A5, its fucking good. Muh hebby buffer and muh spring just as good is a meme, and guess what, you can still do that shit within the A5 to make it even better! Buy it poors. Its a $100 upgrade that reduces parts wear.
Lincoln Allen
bravocompanyusa.com
I opted for the hammer forged, government profile for the "bump firing" (wink) I do and the full length QRF because it will always be 2012 in my heart and also fuck KeyMod
James Johnson
I dunno if its a spelling coincidence but that does look kind of like the AR-C in Far Cry 5
Easton Nguyen
What's that bayonet?
Isaiah Perez
p-pure coincidence user
Seconded now that I realize it is not an M7 Bayonet
Evan Green
Old C7 bayonet?
Also, C8 is so aesthetic
Camden Price
You're in the WA discord aren't you?
Tyler Gray
Are bull barrels worth the extra money or are they just needlessly heavy?
Jace Phillips
>gov't profile barrel
Joseph Thompson
Do you want your barrel spazzing around like a retard or not?
Asher Long
Whered you get it? I wound up getting a RRA A2 kit and its cheaper made than the PSA A2 buttstock I used to have. I've searched all over and not been able to find any surplus A2 stocks. I hate the grey color. The handguards on this old DPMS upper I'm turning into a 741 clone are a nice worn black color and the stock clashes so badly
Ayden Taylor
No matter what Meme tip the murines or army put on their cartridges, they well never match the yaw of a very fast 5.56.
20" best inch
Andrew Stewart
>Houge grips not very good
Babby handed glockfag detected
Ryan Jackson
>Imagine using overgassed varmint rifle
Jaxon Robinson
how are you liking that sig dot?
Kevin Price
20" barrels, fragmentation, and velocity-fagging are shit-tier. 18" is the longest a 5.56 barrel should be.
Josiah Campbell
The frag range for 20" is around 200 yards, and 18" is 170 yards
Justin Johnson
no, it's like 130 yards 20" and 100 yards 16" with cheap m193. Using good fragmenters brings those ranges way up though.
Noah Howard
I was using m855 in my example
Jack Fisher
I think thats even shorter m8
Josiah Lee
What is the velocity needed for m855 to fragment then? I thought it was 2500fps
Michael Fisher
Never participated in such a thing, I was already told some trip who goes by Shark has the same build I do? Maybe budget PEN-15s really are indistinguishable
Landon Moore
I think 16 inch is the sweet spot.
Christian Wilson
>you may find it performing differently out of your carbine chambered in 5.56 NATO (presumably 1:7 twist), but almost certainly better than M855
I just got a 20" a4 upper with a 1:7 twist but have fuckhueg piles of m193 because my other not shitty ar is an a1 clone, what should I expect shooting 55gr out of such a barrel?
Cooper Perez
Imagine being a fucking retard
Cameron Anderson
20-inch, pencil profile is master race.
Henry Wright
Does m193 ball actually have performance to live up to the meme out of a 20in barrel?
Adrian Harris
Agreed
Colton Foster
Not him, but mine is doing well after a few mags. Nice sight picture and doesnt add too much weight to the rifle.
Also I like that it comes with both a tall and low mount.
Samuel Moore
What's wrong with babbys first ar15 Delton?
Whats better at a similar price point?
Jason Jenkins
FN-15 Carbine.
Jackson Rodriguez
Almost at a year and its still going strong after being left out in the rail and mud overnight, dropped, and I finally put a really good zero on it recently and its super accurate now. Overall for $120 its 10/10
Logan Cooper
Wait, what state are you in then if you don't mind my asking. Rolling for Florida
Carter James
Not free-floated? 1-2 moa, maybe 3 if your gun just doesnt agree with them (some barrels like some loads more than others). It will be about the same as any other twist unless we're talking about something like a match barrel with a slow twist.
With heavy match ammunition 0.8-2 moa.
The twist rates giving poorer accuracy is over rated and is only a trend you can might be able to find in match barrels doing bulls eye shoots
Tyler Price
20" are better plus more aesthetic.
Parker Bell
>MSRP 1149 for a basic AR
you literally payed 4x as much than you should have.
Carson Barnes
quad rails are peak aesthetic, mlock may be better but fuck quad rails look good.
Connor Anderson
2nd, paying that much for a carbine gas POS without even a 14.5" barrel is retarded. You could've got a BCM with a bunch of nice shit for that price
Ryder Lopez
Not a similar price point
Brody Wright
Check out my sweet A1 clone
*It ain't me intensifies*
Justin Flores
Personally, I think the A2s are the best looking ARs. For some reason I don't really like the M4 look. It's almost like someone put zero effort into making it. And all the aftermarket parts just add insult to injury (extremely confusing and you would just be wasting more money putting lipstick on a metaphorical pig)
>inb4 muh capitalism
I've already harped about this before. Humans are normally happier when they have a smaller variety of goods to work with. It's not as overwhelming to deal with for both the consumer and company, as long as the company understands what the consumer is wanting in their products. Why do you think gun buyers were so quick to buy up all the supply of Mosins?
Caleb Gray
oh boy
Leo Powell
Why are there hardly any 14.5" or 16" barrels with dissipator length gas systems?
Jacob Diaz
m855 loses velocity past 20 inches of barrel with a slight rebound under the 20 from 23-24. Basically you're retarded going more than 20 inches long as well.
Angel Fisher
why are your controls and pins white, why does your magazine have screws in it, and why do you have a 9mm brass deflector on it.
true dissipators have some reliability issues, and mock dissipators are just silly, and they aren't a very in demand design in general.
Jose Watson
I always had the idea this is what you do with dissipators. Although I guess the back pressure from a can would suffice?
Benjamin Bailey
Didnt bost
Liam Young
Moonmananon?
Logan Bailey
shit sights on the a1 though.
Henry Thompson
Who are you thinking of? I'm not sure its me
Cameron Sanders
>TFW no rifle gas or barrel.
Lucas Kelly
>quad rail
>1 small lightweight grip
Bruh, come to the mlok side, the weight savings are significant. My 18" barrell with about 16 " of m lol shroud is lighter than my buddies 16"barrell with 8-10" quad rails.
food for thought.
Hudson Murphy
I'm not in Florida, no. I never post outside of Jow Forums or YouTube, there's no way we know of each other
I would have gone with m-lok had it not been for the lips shrouding the barrel. It hurts my autism
Angel Hall
>no rifle brap length system.