>Buy missile from America >Very expensive but America promised economic ties >Economic ties does not take off from the ground because of other stuff America wants to control >India causes troubles >Try to use missile to defend nation >America threatens sanctions if the missile is not used against American enemies >Air to air missile + American enemies = ???
Why do third world nations still cling to American fantasies when they could follow the Philippines and cling to China instead?
The usa treats its "allies" like vassals This will bite the Yanks in the ass some day
Andrew Cook
This basically.
American stuff always have a kill-switch and their software is hard-locked.
The plus for the JF-17 is that its avionics are completely open and written in C++, which enables Pakistan to integrate weapons from several nations into the platform.
But still, people will buy American weapons just as a show of loyalty. Just like it used to be a show of loyalty to their lords when eunuchs had their balls cut off.
Some nations will never learn. And they will pay the price dearly, going down with the American ship with no way to save themselves.
PS: we take enforcement of contracts in our high-trust civil society seriously. You corrupt nepotistic thieving slanteyed fucks must regard this as some strange foreign phenomenon.
Colton Barnes
>Why do third world nations still cling to American fantasies when they could follow the Philippines and cling to China instead?
Because they know that sooner or later it'll wind up being the same shit, and the fact that the Chinese are/will be less disingenuous about it is little comfort. The devil you know, and such.
Easton Long
>buy a gun >say that you are only suppossed to shoot niggers with, not a white mugger >want to shoot a white mugger because he happens to threaten my life >gun doesnt work >die
Why is anyone still buying American is beyond me. It's like buying a faulty product.
Owen Cook
MIC boot licking faggot
Logan Rogers
Nope. Chinese weapons were even successfully used against China themselves during Vietnam War and multiple border skirmishes with Burma in the last few years.
China doesnt have any hidden kill switches, because, surprise surprise, they are merchants who want to sell goods.
Sebastian Scott
>Actively fund and harbor terrorists that have attacked America >Be surprised when America doesn't want to sell you their weapons anymore.
Jace Ward
>superior american F-16, hard coded to not being able to be used against anyone but the enemies of murrica >dies to an Indian MiG-21
HAHAHAHA
Elijah Fisher
>American stuff always have a kill-switch and their software is hard-locked. Stupid question but let's assume that a moderately advanced country buys American stuff, can't they identify and disable the kill-switch and hack the software?
Dylan Murphy
Really trying to drum up sales, huh wang? It really doesn’t matter who India buys from. They’ll just screw it up eventually.
Mason Gray
Ten whole yuans?
Xavier Green
Turkey tried to, but failed.
Jaxon Nelson
Buy gun made by yellow people. Yellow people invade. Yellow people forget to thank you for funding their invasion of your country.
Juan Lewis
That's actually quite a lot. You can buy a whole McDonalds meal with that last time I was there.
Connor Campbell
Fuck those savages. Launch nukes or shut up.
Grayson Perry
You underestimate how many components go into a missile and how few of them need to be kill-switched to make the entire thing useless. hint: it's not the part that goes boom.
Ayden Allen
>..they are merchants who want to sell STOLEN goods.
There, fixed it for ya. ;-)
Jayden Jackson
Related, China sells those adaptable hardpoints and software packages seperately as well.
So, if, say, Germany one day gets fed up by restricted american weapons that doesnt allow them to defend themselves against Israeli-caused refugee floods, they might as well buy Chinese hardpoints and load up their Eurofighters with a bunch of Chinese stealthy glide bomb dispersers to protect their borders.
Why doesn't every country simply buy Chinese anyway?
>No need to spend on expensive, locked and remotely lockable amerifat rubbish >No need to spend on heinously overpriced euromuslim rubbish that is 2 generations behind and is engineered by Arabs >No need for rusted out and technologically dated Russian machinery >Chinese hardware provides 99% of the functionality of US equipment for nearly a tenth of the price, and doesn't impose any of the same political obligations
Easton Rogers
>dat CM-400 hypersonic anti ship missile
Geee germany, why would you want something like that? Are you going to try Jutland again?
Most modern Chinese equipment consists of indigenous technology, and the equipment sourced from Russia has been highly upgraded far beyond the capabilities of it's Russian counterpart.
Ian Wilson
Since when were Typhoon components manufactured in China?
Adam Scott
Because the mean failure rate of Chinese export guided missiles is in excess of 60%
None of them work.
Camden Brooks
Except for the fact that their engines are actually behind contemporary Russian designs and they've developed their avionics off European equivalents.
Jeremiah Campbell
Better than Russian stuff.
The KLJ-7 pulse doppler radar has a better detection performance than the nominally "superior" PESA of the MKI.
But that isnt something the poos will tell you.
>talking out of your ass
Which Russian engine has 3D TVC? Even the Product 30 doesnt have it.
Kayden Reyes
aren't you the gay anime porn guy?
Grayson Gutierrez
Yeah Phil loves gay cartoon porn.
Bentley Young
>"Buy this hammer, Achmed" >"Ok" >"This hammer must only be used on zinc-plated nails that we tell you to hit" Thuggin'
Kayden Flores
>Germany >Protecting their borders
Asher Harris
You'll get assassinated
Aiden Lewis
>I can't grasp the idea of times changing
Justin Jackson
Let us know when that happens after Mohammads has their way.
Ethan Reyes
What the fuck is all this talk about american missiles being killswitched to prevent targeting?
Jason Gutierrez
Shills in full force today.
Sebastian White
If you have the money and resources to "hack", as you say, a more advanced country's technology, then you can afford to make your own.
Camden Flores
Speaking of China, since the poos got BTFO by the Paki JF-17, shitposting regarding China has dropped to a historic low.
Really makes you wonder.
Blake Martin
Memes aside though it's fucking bullshit. Shit like this it's literallya deal killer if you want to offer your product to other countries. Even with massive political pressure on said countries.
Jaxon Hill
It was part of the purchase deal that Pakistan can only use the F-16 in a DEFENSIVE role (aka: no attacking Israel with it, but we can't name Israel specifically so no offensives with it).
So yeah, they want to know if a F-16 went hunting.
Logan Ramirez
>Which Russian engine has 3D TVC? Even the Product 30 doesnt have it.
EXCUSE ME, but did you just go full fucking retard?
Please look at the list of aircraft with “Vectoring in three dimensions”.
Blake Garcia
That's exactly what that is
David Phillips
Thrust vectoring is a massive fucking meme. It is entirely useless.
If you use it, you blow all your energy, which is the opposite of what jet fighters are designed to do: gain&retain energy
You don't need to point your fighter at the enemy in the age of full aspect missiles with lock on after launch capabilities.
The only slight usage i can think of which would make thrust vectoring useful is reducing supersonic trim drag by slightly offsetting thrust angle. Still not worth hanging a ton of hardware on the ass of your plane that is useless 99% of the time.
Kinda funny, X-31 research project was US-german cooperation to research thrust vectoring, and from THE SAME DATA the germans concluded that it wasn't worth while the americans put it into the F-22.
Zachary Watson
The Philippines isn't clinging to China, only their President plus his cronies.
Looks like the Poos were the main shitposters. Guessed as much, since most murrifats are actually too dumb to care abcout chinese advances.
William Cook
This is a slanted 2D TVC that emulates 3D capability through its canted mounting. A very ingenious way to do it, but not a true 3D TVC.
Jaxson Carter
See how he A) changes the argument after getting BTFO above, and B) doesn't even link replys to the people who BTFO this chink-a-boo.
Here's another use of TVC, low speed handling, it's like canards, but without the RCS gain when it moves. And that also works at high speed, the F-22 will use its 2D TVC to make minor course corrections without moving it's ailerons / rudders / elevators, thus maintaining it's minimal RCS returns.
And if the Germans didn't think TVC was useful, why did they demand it to be part of the Eurofighter Tranche 3 upgrade? The EJ2000 now has a 3D TVC option because of their whining (even though they can't even maintain their own Tranche 1 and 2 series Eurofighters currently).
Gavin Diaz
>facepalm.png
2D only moves Up/Down, like the F-22 / F-15B MTD nozzles.
3D has full 360* angling rotation on the Y and Z axis (X being the jet turbine itself).
“slanted 2D” is bullshit you just pulled out of your ass.
Sebastian Parker
How hard would the Poos be rekt if Pakistan had the FC-20 (J-10B export version)?
holy shit. Chinese engine is literally 1 generation more advanced than slavshit and muttshit.
Aiden Garcia
Once the DD6 monocrystal blades are more widespread, they will. As of now, their design and engineering might be very advanced, but the blade tech still has some way to go.
You're pretty retarded. Standard missile evasion calls for accelerating away until 4 seconds to impact at which point bank sharply away. Your ability to avoid getting blown up after lockon is directly related to your agility.
Wyatt Sullivan
That's called “Fixed 3D TVC”, not “slanted 2D”, and yes it is just two 2D TVC working together to emulate true 3D. That's the Su-30MKI. That is the MiG-29 with RD-33MK ser.3 OVT engines, they are true 3D nozzles. Yes
Jackson Rivera
*Cough* hauwei *cough* *Cough* spying *cough*
Ian Jenkins
>drops out of Paris Agreement was designed entirely to funnel billions in federal dollars out of the country in order to puppet the infrastructure of other countries, except those countries knew that and had already mitigated or eliminated this element. >tears up Iran nuclear deal the only component that mattered was rearming Iran to prevent preemption by Israel and Saudi. Nuke fear mongering was only a wedge meant to trick retards Obama main speech writer even admitted as much. >spies on own citizens without a warrant actually this portion of the patriot act expired in 2015 and has not been renewed.
>huawei >spying pick 1. >inb4 can't show proof because of (((national security))) reason Lucky you, Huawei is there to fix that too. nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/huawei-lawsuit-us-government.html Now it goes to court. The US gov must provide proof or shut the fuck up. I bet on the latter.
Jayden Moore
oh so that's why all slavshits have twin engine. That makes the J-10B the first ever single TVC engine then
Landon Adams
Germ*ny has already shown it's desire to continue its traitorous activity. Her Merkel still believing he is leading Germ*ny to European dominion(they failed at twice has already) puppet-ed his ignorant technocratic ass to the Chinese communist dictatorship.
Adam Green
The NSA went all out with that one.
Source: justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1125021/download >Pg 8 >In early 2014, several months after the meeting with Financial >Huawei Executive, the defendant WANZHOU MENG travelled to the United States, >arriving at John F. Kennedy International Airport, which is located in the Eastern District of New York. >When she entered the United States, MENG was >carrying an electronic device that contained a file in >unallocated space- indicating that the file may have been deleted.
Basically, the NSA admitted on a DOJ doc that they planted Equation group malware on all pieces of hardware that enters the United States. wired.com/2015/02/nsa-firmware-hacking/
Christian Gonzalez
Retard saying retarded things...
Jason White
I bet the NSA is just jelly that Huawei declined to instal US spyware on their hardware.
Adrian Morales
That aint 3d, bud
Asher Russell
You’re fucking kind. Both nozzles move in only 1 axis
David Butler
>kill switch >hard locked You are an idiot. There are no kill switches in weapons. None. There were no kill switrches in exocets. There were no kill switches in the slavshit SAMs provided to arabs. They do not exist because nobody would buy such a thing.
David Morris
>that pic HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Aiden Sanders
Proof?
Adam Peterson
It's a mixture of different reasons, but one of those is that it's simply good and well proven shit. There's really no other country as war hungry as the usa, so you better believe them when they talk about war toys.
Adrian Evans
>blindly defending America this hard I'm countering the point about America being a high trust society. Internationally you have as much trust as a small South American nation. America neither follows the treaties/agreements it signs(Iran, Paris, UNFCCC), obeys the spirit or letter of laws (Five Eyes, Prism, Guantanamo Enercon affair) or even tries to sign what it pushed (TPP). And for all your waving about international law and order to China, America has not even signed UNCLOS, the mine ban treaty or the biological and toxin weapons treaty.
Xavier Hughes
>china is the one who trust less in china It must be really fucking shitty living in china.
Josiah Gomez
if you can use your army's missiles just use the enemy's
So is the JSF’s aka the F-35. They published an interesting set of coding guidelines for the project. Worth a read for any other C++ programmers out there.
Julian Kelly
Are you a fucking retard? Delete this shit fucking post
look at what happens in Venezuela atm if you wonder...Where 30% of the population would rather spend the rest of their lives sucking on american cock rather than stay sovereign
Oliver Sanders
You got the link to it?
Grayson Watson
ALL Venezuela refugees will come to america. that's why trump shilled for the "unlimited immigration". Its over.
It will, once they take over they won't be altruistic to those who follow
Carter Jenkins
>That makes the J-10B the first ever single TVC engine then No it doesn't, the USA was testing 3D TVC on F-16 and X aircraft before the J-10 was even designed.
Jacob Sullivan
They don't have kill switches, you retards.
James Collins
Tell that to Saddam, who bought American air defense equipment which was then kill-switched during desert storm.
Angel Foster
Didn’t it shoot down a mig that crashed into Pakistani territory? How is that not defensive?