So when did you give up on the ".40 S&W is a meme" meme, Jow Forums?

Strange that somebody who goes so far out of his way to collect/show projectiles to the audience so that they can "be the judge" would elect not to every once in a while and ask them to just trust him instead despite having them on hand. FWIW in paul's test, of the evidence that's actually shown(the penetration) the 9mm actually outdoes the .40, and in almost all other testing i've seen of these rounds the .40 versions only expand about .05-.1" more than the 9mm. When it comes to a bullet that's literally designed around sacrificing expansion to insure penetration in irregular circumstances, i can't help but wonder at why someone would prefer the variant that expands meaninglessly more and penetrates slightly less over the one that actually excels at that particular designs goals.

Protip: it doesn't.

Honestly, I want a gun in .40 for the same reason I want a hipoint

There's no reason, I just think it is a funny meme

>ywn never know what it is like to COLONIZE

I swear to god 9mm vs .40 vs .45 faggots are like console fanboys. You're completely unaware that everyone else thinks you're a massive retard for caring so much about something so insignificant.

I've colonized a woman before, just made my dick smell like shit.

It's really not that cool. They smell and Latinas are hotter exotics

>357 sig
I mean if you wanted to pay double the cost of 9mm for the same .6" expansion and 14-16" of penetration in gel sure why not.

Just get a 10mm glock g20 and you can shoot both.

.40 is the best handgun caliber, 9mm is shit and .45 to slow and bullshit

any videos of this guy after his coffee enema

Why is anybody defending 40sw still?
The numbers are easy to compare, the cons clearly outweigh the pros, and if its just for b8 the b8 isnt bringing in anything very heated or entertaining.

and if you want to out preform all of them in price and ballistics get a Tokarev 7.62x39

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Id like to see a tok in 7.62x39

>Virgin .40 Short and Wimpy
Vs
>Chad 1cm Auto

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>he doesn't understand the concept of velocity
Ok, guy.
>trying to style on the plebs
>with your RIA
You need to go back... to ARG.

>le .40 recoils hard meme
It perfectly splits the difference in recoil between 9 and .45 acp, while also generally splitting the difference in capacity, all while generally having the size of a 9mm.

But of course to the younglet fags on this cancer pit, .40 has no purpose.

Not with that attitude. Nigs suck with women.
>das my bitch
>criminal record/no job
>difficulty doing anything thats timely or complex
>focused on themselves to an insane degree
>cant articulate anything other than basic shit
>chest thumping isnt backed by much
You dont have to thump your chest needlessly to display confidence. And women find quiet, but real, confidence more sexy anyway.
Literally get in shape and dress better and youd be surprised at how easy it is.
Black women get used to being treated poorly, when they meet someone who isnt another thug wannabe and can handle themselves well in this world and treat them right; they hop on the right team really quick.

>tok
>7.62x39
pick only one

You need to accept .40 is dead

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357sig fills a niche, 40 doesn't, it just does it's job worse than 9mm or 10mm.

You say that like i haven't, tripfag. What's funny is you talking down on plebs with your philippine princess of a 1911.

10mm masterrace

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If you want ballistic performance, there's 10mm

Checked. Based.

>He doesn't know

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Dating a black girl was one of the worst decisions I've ever made, hands down.

9s superior magazine capacity is irrelevant in my state so its 10 rounds of 40 vs 8 of 45. If I was in a different state and got 15 rounds of 9 vs 12 of 40 then yes. I'd pick 9. But that's not the case.

>I pay .300 Win Mag prices for .308 Winchester performance: the Post

All he has to do is call you a wristlet because you probably are a s-0-y male

I bought my 40 as an ironic police beater joke and now it’s my favorite cartridge

COLONIZED

This
Caliber wars are as childish as m16 vs ak talk

>If .40 matches .357 sig, then why not buy the .40 since it costs significantly less?
Because recoil. No matter how good you are, less recoil means faster and/or more accurate followup shots.
>ignoring "at best"
Velocity matters; it enables the move from last century's expanding bullet tech to true barrier-blind loads based on fluid dynamics.
.40 is still most effective with expanding bullets, which are inherently unreliable in the face of varying barriers. When you have a clean unobstructed shot, or when you're shooting a so-called "barrier blind" hollow-point like HST or V-Crown through one of the specific barriers it does well against, .40 can match .357sig at the cost of more recoil. When things go wrong, it can't even do that.

>357 sig
>expansion
You're doing it wrong.

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.40 and .357 are indeed very close. The .40 has more bullet mass making it better for breaking glass, which is something law enforcement wants.

Also .357 has feeding and unseating issues. I'm not saying you should chamber check everyday if you're in a duty capacity, but if you check it once a week or so with .357 you'll unseat your round and possibly get a kaboom.

If .357 did best at the barrage of testing that LEAs have done, LEAs would use .357. .40 did best overall, so they use .40. it's as simple as that.

You're fucking retarded dude

They already fixed the recoil issues with .40 as far as I'm concerned. Keep in mind the round evolved from 10mm and even with the 2mm less case length it has the same performance, give or take 1-2" of penetration in gel which is marginal.

In any case, 9mm is perfectly fine for most civilian applications. There's no need to consider more expensive options unless you're out in bear country or you're going into armed security or something. You don't need more than a 9mm for your meme carry gun youll never use.

>claims bullet setback in .357SIG will cause kb
>while advocating .40
pottery

And as you ought to know, a substantial minority of LEAs do use .357 SIG.

>bottlenecked cartridge
>feeding issues
you are dumb, you are really really really dumb

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The kaboom issues with .40 were caused by Glock being shit and thinking their design works for everything with no extra engineering needed.

I think .40 chasing 9mm is a fools errand. However...

>Velocity matters
This is why I don't understand why guys who like 45 don't also like .40. If you offer me a duty pistol in .45 or .40 s&w, why in the hell would I ever choose .45? 180gr .40 has the same SD as those 230gr ashtrays, and better velocity than non-+p .45. Plus you get more capacity, and a much wider selection of pistols.

If you're a die hard 1911 or mk 23 guys, that's one thing. But otherwise, I'm not seeing any reason to not shoot the .40 over the .45.

High quality black women are great

>They already fixed the recoil issues with .40 as far as I'm concerned.
It's not an "issue" that can be "fixed" by reducing recoil below a magic threshold -- it's a continuum, where more recoil is worse, less recoil is better. No matter how good you are, the gun moves in recoil, and it takes time to bring it back on target for the next shot. You may be an expert who can shoot a 40 just as fast as the next guy shoots a 9, but that just means you could shoot a 9 even faster.
For 9 vs. 40, there's no clear winner -- 40 has slightly better performance in some circumstances, but 9mm is slightly faster. As fun as the bantz are, you can really make a reasonable argument either way.
But for 40 vs 357, 357 gets you faster shooting with no loss in performance, there's really no argument for 40 except price. (And once you start considering price, 9mm instantly wins.)

>unless you're out in bear country
It's been a while since it was posted here, but there was an analysis done of successful and failed bear defense using a gun and 9x19mm actually came out very much in credit. I was shocked but between penetration and capacity, plus I would imagine low recoil and quick follow-up shots, there were more failures with magnum revolver loads than 9mm. I'm not advocating everyone going into Kodiak territory just carry a Glock 19 but it just goes to show that when the chips are down mag dumping a 9x19mm is better than getting off two shots with a .44 magnum. It is also worth noting that .40 S&W performed exceptionally well in this role.
ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz5hK1uCi2N

Yeah, no. That's half the story.
A number of non-glock .40s also blew up on 180gr back in the early days, and there's substantial evidence suggesting it was mostly due to bullet setback from repeatedly chambering the same round. Then all the ammo makers started loading their 180gr .40 a little softer, and the non-glock KBs basically stopped.

This page doesn't have all the details, but lays out a pretty good case for the underlying problem:
greent.com/40Page/ammo/40/180gr.htm

I think you meant terminal lad

high rates of sexually transmitted diseases probably

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I want to believe, user. But unless Lucky Gunner changed their testing procedure...
> Clear ballistics gel
> No calibrating bb at 8.5mm

Something that jumps out immediately with this:

9mm Fed HST +p 1150fps results in slightly more pen and expansion than .357 Sig 125gr @ 1380fps. So where did all that extra work the gel did to stop the faster projectile go? Temporary wound cavity?

>practice with .40
>switch barrel
>protecc with .357

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Is there another +30oz gun in .40/.357 Sig other than a 229? And does it require swapping out a heavier recoil spring for the .40?

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That wasn't a woman buddy.
>>lgbt

Unfortunately I'm only talking theory but not as far as I know, you'll need to go plastic. I would change springs, .40 has a bit higher pressure.

>Complying with laws that infringe on your rights.

Out of 2 blacks , one gave me a std. Out of 54 WHITE chicks none ever gave me an std.

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gotta provide a story, fool.

>So when did you give up on the ".40 S&W is a meme" meme, Jow Forums?
Literally 2 seconds after I tried shooting one. I am quite certain that the majority of the people on Jow Forums who shitpost about how much .40 hurt their feefees have either never shot it, or have never shot any gun.

>Single Stack
YIKES!
Holy shit Jow Forums please tell me you are not sipping energy drinks with a single stack boomer meme gun?!?!!?!

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They probably had to up the strength of the jacket in the 357 sig loading to prevent over expansion/under penetration. Took more energy to open up the projectile.

The best argument I've read about 357 sig being a better man stopper than 9mm is believed to be from psychological stops. Being supposedly louder and producing more muzzle flash increases the oh fuck I've been shot factor.

>.40 did best overall, so they use .40. it's as simple as that.
they adopted .40 because the feds did, and the feds did because .357 sig wasn't a thing yet.
.45 guys dont care about velocity. Just maximum expansion with adequate penetration. ergo .40 is a step backwards
>luckygunner ""testing""
>uncalibrated cleargel with entirely suspicious values
>milktoast .357 loads that are 9mm +p+ levels
Its always the brainlets that think ".357 sig is just an extra warm 9mm"
Just look at the individual test results for most of those loads. notice how the ones that expand larger almost always penetrate deeper in the same tests despite having similar velocity? Goes against basic physics unless SOMETHING isn't what it should be in their protocol.

based anons understand that gelatin is not miraculously the correct composition and that it's popular on youtube because it's visual.

Paul Harrell's meat targets are more valid than totally untested gel.

I own a 40SW because you never know when they'll be shortage of anything. Last big panic period 40SW was the only thing available in any appreciable amounts. It's also why I reload for every caliber I own. I have dies for 14 different calibers, send help.

Where do you live?

Will press for ammo.

Ohio. You are not safe

There are far too many Ohioans on Jow Forums

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Jesus Christ, Paul "Dropping Nukes on Spics and Spooks" Harrell has to be stopped before he kills again.

I've been saying this in every thread about meme calibers for years now, when I worked at a big box sporting goods store (you've heard of them) there were four or so cartridges that never, ever sold out even in the midst of the panic buys of 2011-2014 and those are .38 special (might have sold out once or twice, but we typically had it) .40 S&W (never sold out, hollow points or fmj) .243 Winchester (Not a bad upper for your AR-10) and 12 gauge shotgun (all loads from slugs to birdshot and every buckshot in between). So buy accordingly, because we could very well see panic buys again in the next eight or so years.

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I understand the Black Male with White Female and Asian male with white female, but what is up with Asian Female with White Male and especially White male with Black woman?

We all know Asians have small dicks and black men leave often, but what's up with Asian and black women?