Poorfag Thread

I've built several rifles from PSA parts, and they are my go-to for family gifts.
Of the 7 or so I've handled, none have had any issues. My second AR15 was a PSA, and I put thousands of rounds through it with 0 problems (pic was when I sold it). there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. They're plenty accurate for what they are, and plenty reliable. You may be able to squeeze out a few thousand more rounds of service life out of a BCM, or an MOA better out of a KAC, but for the price, mPSA wont let you down.

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Is a PSA still a good deal if I want a 20"?

Yeah. Nothing wrong with PSA stuff, and if you can get the CHF 20" kit, you get a really nice rifle for a really good price.
The PSA LPKs are honestly the best ones I've used. I like them better than the BCM kit I bought, that cost $40 more and didn't come with a stock...

My favorite LPK I've ever bought was a RRA, because their safety selector seems to have a different cutout for the detent. It seems trivial, but that selector CLICKS firmly into place, to the point where most people who have shot it have commented on how solid the safety is. It makes the gun feel super high quality.

At least we have you poors temporally contained here, try to keep them in here OP, TY

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Damn, OP here. Part of why I made this thread is because of all the gucci IG gun queers who make it seem like spending under 1500 on a rifle is a death sentence. One dude on IG literally said he doesn't think an m&p 15 sport could make it 500 hundred rounds (lol). At this point idek if theyre trolling. I was trying to find out if literally ANYONE on here who likes to shit on us poorfags has any anecdotes of something crazy like their rifles blowing up but I've really never seen anyone complain about PSAs rifles (aside from their maximum poor ptac line)

I complain about PSA rifles because they're chunky and feel like absolute shit. Holding one brings me no joy. I don't hate poorfags for their gun choices though, just their groid tier mentality at life.

To turn a PSA gun into some amazing gun what do we really need to replace?

>Barrel
>Forgrip
>Trigger back

Even on most +1K guns you still need to buy your own optic.

Cope, the post.

>and thats completely understandable. Any poorfag who says PSA is just as good is fucking lying to themself. That said, I still love my bargin bin psa but plan to do a Aero lower bcm upper build next time around.

no idea why i greentexted that lol

>HURRRRRR MUH COPE LOL POORFAGS
>doesn't post guns
Clockwork.

Can a PSA out the factory handle binary/hellfire/gat/faggot triggers? I took it that would be the only reason to try and get "real" milspec

>their groid tier mentality at life
So NOT dropping thousands on a glorified toy while making minimum wage qualifies now?

No, just the making minimum wage part qualifies you well

I don't see why not, but don't run is for 400 rounds straight or itll melt lol.

PSA is fine, but try and put some extra money into a quality barrel, a good trigger, and make sure everything is installed correctly. Roll marks only earn you cool points.

>Roll marks only earn you cool points
As an Anderson owner for first lower, I actually believed this shit, until I got an Aero for the second.

Nice ticking time bomb

>buys thing to prove he isn't poor
Twitter mentality for life.

>buys quality items instead of cheapest shit possible
>Twitter mentality
Ok kiddo

>he didn't spend at least $1000 on his ar
>he didn't spend even more on the optic
>he didn't make the purchase everyone would agree was the best
>he doesn't just post pics of it on the internet
>he won't spend all his spare time justifying the purchase
>he kept the handguard he thought looked better even tho a faggot on the internet said he sees a penis
>he doesn't spend the extra on the cerakote to show off anonymously
>he has money left for ammo AND to take out his girlfriend
>he has a girlfriend
>he can actually shoot
O I AM LAFFIN

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>t. Man coping with his 1500 dollar AR
Lmao

Built a poorfag AR15 before trump, spent almost as much on retard optics for my astigmatism (vortex prism sight). However now I can't stand shooting the damn thing and wish I'd just gotten a bolt 308 instead. Any way to sell it without losing all of my dollarydoos?

>Roll marks only earn you cool points.
That's female basic bitch or nigger tier mentality. Spending extra for logos is something insecure people do to impress other insecure people.

Sorry, enjoy all 5000 rounds.
Yes, anything made by Century is shit. Imports are fine though.
>CV39v2
>Poorfag
That's the more expensive model from them. The WASR is cheaper.

Wait for election season to heat up.

Part it out, sell the parts for as much as you can get. Put cheaper parts on it and sell that.

Why not just keep it?

Ik the wasr was cheaper, I'd go for it anyway. I've just heard a lot better of the wasrs as of the past few years

That's a run on sentence not a question.
I have Colt, FN, and Radical ARs, guess which two have only ever had problems that trace back to fucked up magazines and which one shoots itself apart in every ~500 rounds?
Paying for branding when you are trying to ball on a budget is dumb but there is a level of quality at which it is worth spending the extra few hundred dollars getting something that will actually work if you plan on shooting it.
>RRA, because their safety selector seems to have a different cutout for the detent. It seems trivial, but that selector CLICKS firmly into place
I love the little details like that, might cop one.

PSA is gonna be the Kia of guns. Noticeably poorfag level, slowly improving to be just as reliable as any other Asian car company, eternally suffer the stigma of the brand name that was once poorfag only crap.

This, give it another year.

Everyone post your poorfag AR

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not poorfag but that things fuckin sweet

>horror stories about buying from poorfag companies
The funny thing is, there are as much of these as from higher priced shit. It's 5he internet, you can find negative reviews on anything. It goes with any kind of tool, too. Most of the things you'll hear would either be "that's not as good as my _________" or "I had one and loved it, but my __________ is better in a lot of ways" My harbor freight wrenches worked great, but when I finally sprung for a Matco set I see they're better in a lot of ways.

What about failure to eject, failure to cycle, or failure to wet her panties?

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And the obnoxious mommy's good boy bucks boys are permanently contained in the shithole that is /arg/.

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Can I get an opinion on getting a BCM or Spikes complete upper with a cheaper complete lower like this?

surplusammo.com/products/anderson-am-15-ar15-complete-lower-with-m4-collapsing-stock.html

The logic is I am a poorfag and most of the wear and tear is in the upper right?

I can't take a pic worth shit but here you are.
>basic Anderson multi-cal lower
>PSA Magpul MOE upper
>mil-spec charging handle
>$80 nitride-treated "full auto" BCG

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You're correct, but then you won't have a rollmark that cost $312 extra dollars to impress the instathot level retardation on Jow Forums

I was looking at lowers on BCM. Ok so the trigger is most important let's see what sweet trigger this $400 complete lower has... Oh it's $60...so why is the complete lower $400... Not worth it.

I was shocked at the behavior of the people on arg. Some, I assume, are good people.

You should go a step up from a finished Anderson or consider getting another type of cheap lower and building it yourself (lowers are easy to put together if you have basic tools + roll pin punches for like $30), but yes that is a good way to get a decent rifle.
/arg/ will make fun of you that place is absolute cancer.

You won't find any negative reviews on your mom, and she's pretty well known

Me too lol

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As well with me

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Mine shoots fine, but I'm not mag dumping 100s of rounds looking for weak points

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Unfortunately hasn't been true for a while.

The advent of the "perfectly-adequate sub-$500 AR" means that AR15s are less and less a cool status-symbol gun of serious gun guys. In fact they're now very much "babby's first rifle."

At the same time, affordable AKs have all but dried up, and there's a very clearly-delineated hierarchy of good and bad AKs, meaning /akg/ is now infested with /arg/'s tripfag retard cancer, and every one of them is obsessed with ricing out their AKs to attempt to make them act more like ARs, since they have no love for AKs as guns, or guns at all for that matter, and are only interested in them as status symbols.

There was a time when pic-related was true, and those days are sadly gone.

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They're perfectly good guns as long as you don't shoot them too much.

Literal wall-hanger AK.

Anderson owner that spent enough to get a nicer gun on this POS a month before the election. It's not bad, and it functions well enough, but the fit and finish leaves a lot to be desired. If I knew PSA would've had $350 freedom kits I would have waited, but hindsight is 20/20

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Get the BCM with it and become trAsh

You can thank BakedRus and Wuggy for that bullshit. Those two need to be permabanned for bringing down the level of this board.

How many rounds should an average AR be able to fire for its service life?

Daily reminder that those who think people should drop $1200+ on an AR are those who are okay with gun control. Very slim chance the government is going to send ATF agents to seize your weapons. If the government wants to take your weapons they will pass laws/taxes on firearms until the majority of citizens can no longer afford to purchase/own a firearm.

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Gun doesn't break as one unit. Barrels can last tens of thousands of rounds before keyholing. Rapid fire will degrade barrel life faster, as will steel case. Upper and lower receivers will probably out live you and your next 3 generations ability cash flow for ammo.

Was Rus an /arg/ fag at any point? I thought he was an /akg/ home grown tumor.

Forever with barrel changes depending on what you shoot

He's always been akg but exemplifies everything wrong with arg. Buys and flips expensive shit to get (you)s from newfags and poorfags.

>You won't find any negative reviews on your mom, and she's pretty well known

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I am happy with my PSA AR, and would be very confident carrying it in SHTF conditions. It's very close to what I carried in Army BCT, and pretty much what private boots these days take to the range when they aren't getting dropped. Shit like bolts and BCGs do not have to be polished and weighed to the microgram. They actually work just fine, especially if you don't abuse them with relentless fire.

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I own an M&P Sport II and i have some horror stories let me tell you. First off, it cost me like $400 which was insane for how much of a piece of shit it was, which ill get to next. it literally eats all of my ammo. like everything i put through it from wolf to 223 to nato 5.56. its fucking gross how much it mercilessly eats through everything without fail. also, the standard stocks on them are fucking garbage. they have 6 points of adjustment. thats way to fucking much, i use the 3 setting and thats all, why do they need more. also its dumbass accurate for the price. its making my other rifles look like overpriced trash, which is pretty shitty. i can beat on and drop it and it doesnt even break like some of my other guns would. awful. one time i dropped it in the snow, and it got ice all over it from being in the cold. get this, it didnt have any issues with that at all. all the controls worked fine. my ruger wouldve had the bolt freeze closed, but this thing had the nerve to function properly over a superior rifle. theyre garbage trash if you ask me.

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If you believe an AR properly feeding and ejecting all in spec ammunition, having an standard milspec buffer tube, hitting under 5 moa, and not breaking because you dropped it are anything but the bare minimum you're retarded. The fact that you even try to posture it as being worthy of praise in that story is mindnumbingly stupid. The M&P Sport II is still a piece of shit even if it performs the most base functions without catastrophic failure.

Arg fags will read shit like this and say HURR THAT NEBER HABBENED YOU ONLY SHOOT 3 TIME A YEAR

> working shit job
> going through school
> buy cost effective tools to cover me for a year or three
yeah, i'm the dumb one

The fucking thing cost 400 dollars. The only flaws I can think of it having are that its non free floated, has generic furniture, and I prefer something with and either 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist barrel. It works, and if you can't afford something nicer you can still swap the furniture on and m&p and have tons of fun and get tons of training in on it. What makes it a piece of shit? Im not gonna sit here and lie and say its better than or just as good as a bcm, but what makes it shit?

People who spend 2k on an AR have no taste

This entire thread can be summed up this image. There's nothing wrong with owning a bottom barrel build, but convincing yourself it's anything north of that and anything with a higher price tag is invalid is the mark of a loser. You're honestly just better off spending the 1k on a good do it yourself build sans optic.

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I've had problems with a few of my PSAs. Even after RMA they're still fucked up and I don't feel like sending a gun back for the same problem twice, rather just cut my losses on armslist.

stay delusional user. its a fantastic gun for the money. i own several more expensive ARs and i still love my sport ii to death.

Stop being emotionally invested in purchases user. A fifteen hundred dollar mauled Honda that goes 50k miles before shitting the bed is a fantastic car for the money. It's also still a piece of shit.

welcome to post-scarcity, pre-collapse

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> fantastic car for the money
> also still a piece of shit.
bruh your standards

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Yes, they're not JUSTASGOOD. Try getting some, poorfag.

Preface of this thread
>not saying these brands are just as good

it also is a tool that serves a purpose well and very well for the money. giving it value and making it not shit. I'd never take my m4 out hunting in the snow, even though it'd be perfectly fine doing it. the sport ii? sure, i know its going to do what i need it to and be just as useful as my other guns. calling it shit is wrong. calling it entry level is the correct phrasing.

Ultimate poorfag ar15
>Anderson lower
>PSA upper, midlength gas, with a CHF barrel from FN
>PSA milspec bolt
>standard A2 front sight and A2 birdcage flash hider
>Aimpoint PRO
>Magpul BUIS
>heavy buffer
>Larue MBT
>Magpul MOE pistol grip and Magpul CTR stock
>BFG padded Vickers sling with metal triglides
>Dually Mount from GG&G and a flashlight

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needs a good free float rail too for mounting IR lasers/illuminators.

Black is overrated. That’s a nice blaster, user.

honestly, i never see people using the "just as good" argument.
it's all about "good enough"

we're just happy that we have fun tools that we enjoy and trust.
it's neat that i can buy a gun that shoots reliably and score good hits with for only a few hundred dollars.
the tool earned my trust, especially since i have such a good chance at having a nice weekend instead of going to war

>putting a handgun light on an AR
i hate it and love it all at once

I'm not referring to the thread, I'm referring specifically to you and the majority of posters, OP aside. Previously high barrier of entry that was significantly lowered combined with early to mid 20 year olds is a hilarious mixture of poverty and over emotional investment in meager purchase. Basically get some standards that aren't on the floor, poorfag.

It's not entry level, it's one of the lowest levels possible. The fact that you're differentiating an M4, which you don't own an actual M4, from an M&P Sport II and making claims about it's ability to function around fucking snow, which in no way shape or form will inhibit almost every fucking firearm in existence, is a fantastic indicator of expertise in what makes an AR15 good.

Stay away from Strike Industries & Armaspec. I bought a armaspec lower parts kit. It was not mil spec. Fucked up my receiver real good.
Strike indutries just makes edgy crap

Looking for suggestions for a good scope for ~$250 that I can put on my fancy new 308 rifle while I save up for the $1500 scope. Just something I can shoot with temporarily, then move it to my 10/22 after I buy my real scope.

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;)

^_^

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Primary Arms makes some decent scopes for not much money. I used a 4-14x44 FFP from them for several years on my 308. Still have it.

>milled receiver
Not a bad choice. Just keep track of the bolt assembly (carrier and actual bolt itself) and recoil spring. I mentioned this about a week ago, but if you know absolutely nothing about making AKs, milled guns are the better option

The first model AKs were made that way anyway, as well as a lot of Chinese ones.

>Not a bad choice
No but cast trunnions are.

Yet, you would never stand in front of one of those quote, "poor fag" rifles. Because you're all talk. In reality, when the trigger is pulled, the round will be discharged. Accuracy aside. Its the same result. And you know it. The only argument you have is asthetics and perhaps reliability.
That was the genius behind Eugene Stoners design. A reliable, accurate, weapon that can be assembled by a layman.