Katanas

ITS TAPE!

Damn

Why are katanas unironically the most aesthetic sword?

Get yourself a customised Huawei (NOT HANWEI). T10 Steel and whatever hamon you'd like (I recommend hitatsura to flex on the normies). Should run a out 400.

They let you pick out your fittings. I recommend getting iron

Ronin Katana Dojo Pros can be had for around $300 and are recommended by nerds who actually hit things with swords in their backyards and review them in this day and age.

Otherwise check around kult of athena I guess.

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Cos you have no experience with other swords.

No, it won’t.

Historical Fencer here

Why the actual fuck would you want some weeb katana?

$350 would be decent for any other type of sword, but its actually a bit much for a katana. They are so popular and widespread, manufacture of a decent katana can actually be quite cheap.

What websites and smiths have you looked into? KultofAthena is a good place to start, but be careful

auction, you should get a Satsuma rebellion katana or 500 or less

Cause they remind you of knifes used in Europe 1500 years ago.

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But the main reason is probably that those making replicas of other swords for the most part no longer apply the necessary principles to make the look good and handle well.

youtube.com/watch?v=MTVfBBaKQy0
youtube.com/watch?v=nyAc5HbUuqw
youtube.com/watch?v=bpBgXV1ruRA

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Swords at the ~300 price point i can personally recommend:
Ronin Katana Dojo Pro
Cold Steel Warrior Series
Hanwei Practical Katana

check out sword-buyers-guide.com/authentic-japanese-swords.html

Shop at kultofathena.com

Might also be worth a look on Amazon.

historical fencing is not a real sport. you're a nerd who plays with swords.

Thanks mate

As usual, the retarded weeb can't even appropriate the culture correctly. You commit seppuku with a wakazashi, that is a katana.

you commit it with a tanto, dipshit

I like them because of the very graceful curve they have. Many other sabers across the world do not begin to curve immediately at the tang, but the katana (and most all Japanese blades) do. To me, when it is swung, it reminds me of someone swinging a green stick or some other very flexible rod, it's as if the force of the swing is so powerful that the metal in the blade has to catch up.

Obviously I know that's bullshit but that's just why I in particular like them.

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You can but in most cases it was always done with a wakazashi. The tanto was most commonly used by women committing seppuku since they only had to slit their throat. The wakazashi had a greater connection to the samurai because it was never taken off, not even when indoors (whereas a katana would be laid at the door of your guest).

Don't run your mouth about shit you know nothing about

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku#Ritual

If you really want to troll some folks, get a Cold Steel Chinese Sword Breaker mace instead
youtube.com/watch?v=PS_YVv0pKhQ

I wish all weebsworders would commit harikiri

>stop liking what I don't like

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Biological memory is real, so I think this must account for why so many white westerners are fascinated with katana's (myself included, unfortunately). I actually feel better after reading your post.

Carl Jung would go one step further on biological memory and say that it is probably related to the psyche (the collective unconscious) and the associated image of that european blade shape is etched into our psyche's from a time when it was our everyday tool on our hip for prefroming every task, as well as our sole means of defense in a world that still had predators that would walk into your rural village and kill your wife/children etc.

I’m going to get a katana and a Ancient Greek sword. I’m definitely not a weeb I just like the away it looks, I actually like the greek sword more

Came here to second this Ronin seems to be the best budget option atm. But also Cheness, Hanwei, and Dynasty Forge have reputable options.

Pic related is my Hanwei Raptor that I got like 8 years ago.

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you realize the people who used these swords trained constantly for years, right?

martial arts are stupid. any blade longer than ~20 inches is stupid. it's obsolete.

>what is fun?
>what is hobby?
Keep having sex in missionary for the purpose of reproduction user, cause non of us Katana bros par take in that. Who cares about being a virgin when you can own a katana?

>you realize the people who used these swords trained constantly for years, right?
Not necessarily, you don't need "top skillz" to wield a sword okay. They even taught it in high school and in a quick fashion in the interwar. Most people using swords in the japanese armies and dojo were in fact, not very well trained, not for long anyway.

Hey OP just go to sword buyers guide and go to the katana section.

If lightsabre combat is considered a real sport than historical fencing certainly is.

washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/02/20/lightsaber-dueling-officially-becomes-recognized-by-french-fencing-federation/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.677e3675026c

I got myself a ronin back when I was in highschool. Very happy with it.

Katanas are shit
get a real sword
thank me later btw.

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>Links albion
> not the alexandria or principe

For cutting the principle makes a lot of sense.
The Munich would likely be a less fun sword to play with.
Something in between, munich aesthetics, with good all-round fun handling and cutting would be something like the Regent or Earl.
However the main problem with all of them is that a scabbard will cost more than a decent katana perfectly fine for having some fun backyard cutting.
At a comparable price-point there's not that much European stuff available,
although some offerings like the Type XIV by Kingston Arms would fit the bill of a casual first-sword buyer.

About choosing the first sword, if you get a Japanese type, I heavily recommend getting one with fuller, it makes learning edge alignment easier as it gives you much more audible feedback when hissing through the air.
"...." terrible alignment
" .... fizs .... " alignment was OK at some point
"Woooooosh", good alignment, you cam move from cutting air to cutting tatami.

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*about which you know nothing
Should have paid more attention in English class.

the only way to not be a faggot about owning a katana is having inherited one or made it yourself.
If you own a katana and you are autistic.
It's better than a camel sword.

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>LARPer makes fun of LARPer
Kek

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What's wrong with fencing?
it's fun and you learn how to stab people real good.

>fake sword fighting becomes officially recognized by fake sword fighters

"I'm wrong, let me think of something else to to make it seem like I win"
Not him, but neck yourself

There's nothing wrong with fencing, it only becomes an issue when a fencer thinks they can kill anything by diving at it with a kitchen knife

Get a Dao or a Dadao instead, the Chinks had the superior sword design.

$4k dont bother

>thinks the picture is of the weapon used
>thinks anyone cares if people know that he knows about these weeb words for blades
fuck your autism and fuck your love of killing instruments and fuck the combination of them that means nothing but: this OP dickhead might end up being one of those news stories where some cunt waves a katana at someone.

PS none of you fucks have the wrist to kill with a blade, fucken Mishima's second couldn't take his head off with a single blow. Fucken disgraceful.

knowledgeglue.com/man-uses-katana-stop-home-invasion-gory-aftermath-nsfw/

You can get a sword made to order from smiths for kendo/iado groups. Generally you order online and they cost a few hundred dollars. Just google it ya donk.

You realize not every swordsman in japan was a samurai right? There were common soldiers as well as bandits, Pirates, and criminals just like Europe had.

>becomes an issue when a fencer thinks they can kill anything by diving at it with a kitchen knife

Im Confused as to how stabbing someone with a kitchen knife wouldn't kill them.

>Niggers
>Manchester United
>Spain
>Decorative sword
checks out.

Kitchen knives are typically butter knives in shape and profile. You would be more likely to impale a spoon into someones chest cavity.

So how is that a criticism of HEMA exactly

I was correcting your ignorance on butter knives, I don't give a fuck about your faggotry-tiered """""""""sport"'"""""'' (laughs).

But if you don't understand kitchen knives then I guess that other user wins enough points that your fencing is just as pathetic

>(Laughs)

>>>/reddit/

be careful of what? I've been tossing around the idea of buying a rapier or baskethilt from KoA

I should have gone into more detail then
>people who think they are a one man army that can kill anything by diving at it with a kitchen knife
Basically, people saying fencing is the best self defense

Ronin Katana dojo pro model. Basically the vortex optics of katana.

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I've literally never met a single HEMA fencer that thought that. Those who are interested in dagger fighting especially know how easy it is to end up with 6 stab wounds in a short encounter.

Get a longsword pleab

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where can i get the top one?

That dumbass gif lmao

It's a VA Rhinelander. I would recommend, ordering mine was pretty stream lined, he got the colors just the way I wanted, and I think it was only about 3-4 month wait from when I ordered to when I got it. They may have a longer waiting list now, but sometimes you can find pre-made ones on Kult Of Athena.

It's great value for a sub $700 Euro sword but not with out some flaw. The guard gap around the blade is large, it could be a bit sharper in the weak of the blade, and it's just a little on the small side fore a type XIIa ish sword. But the leather work is amazing, by far the best you are going to find for less than $1,000 on a long sword with a sheath.

valiant-armoury.com/collections/special-edition/products/va-182-special-edition-the-rhinelander-medieval-long-sword

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If you want to slice shit in your backyard, just get a machete

>t. Brazilian

There is a lot of truth to this.
>A lot cheaper
>less worried about fucking it up
>can also be used as a garden /out tool

imo it's more satisfying to cut shit with single handed swords/long blades as well. Just make sure to keep your off hand out of the way.

Consider a lot of machetes don't come sharp enough to cut bottles and some stuff easily though. But to this I shill the Schrade Priscilla which comes sharp and has a thin enough grind to cut like a sword. And honestly feels and handles less like a machete and more like a short sword than any $30 has a right too. It's very un-machete like blade stock thickness and distill taper, which is good.

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Because katanas have a superior type of steel.

In addition there's also the problem of deliberately glorifying ugliness (post-modernism) and disregarding aesthetics in recent western history.
Combined with a critical view of the European past and politically correct glorification of the rest of the world it drives those of western heritage to look for beauty abroad, as the beauty at home is deliberately stigmatized and hidden.

This not only extends to swords and art but also to other areas of life like religion, calling the one with a doctrine of ongoing war the one of peace while demonizing the opposing inherently pacifist one for adapting this doctrine temporarily in order to not be destroyed ... (religious warfare as well as the believe in witches was alien to Christians prior to the invasion of Spain)

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>inherently pacifist
It didn't took much for christians to learn it.
I guess the war against the saxons and the exterminations in the carribeans were also done
>in order to not be destroyed

The first (!) christian religious conquest of Christians was against the Saxons, by Charlemagne,
the son of Charles Martel, a central figure in stopping the Muslim conquest.
We could call the war against the Saxons the first application of troop motivation learned at this western front.

Implementing holy war on a broader scale into Christianity is fairly easy, if you look past the new testament.
All that was needed for the crusades to limit the geographic region to the holy land,
which was conquered by the Israelites with gods consent.

The principle was however later more broadly interpreted ... and by the 1500s Christians behaved like Muslims,
fighting in the name of religion among themselves,
as it has been the among Muslims since the beginning and until this day.
Even in Spain under Muslim rule Christians were only 2nd class citizens, the wrong type of Muslim was executed,
as a religious dispute aromatically turns into a political one within Islamic context.
This was the birthplace of the Christianity that was brought to the new world.

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Because you don't know shit about swords

>people still post this gif as if it proves anything

According to the sword smith:
Japanese blade made using imported tamahagane, folded, forged, hardened and tempered in traditional Japanese fashion (he's a Japanese certified smith)
European blade made using prosperous steel similar to how it was used historically for the blade type, forged, hardened and tempered in the way as it was historically done.

Japanese blade bends as expected and intended due to the way it is hardened,
European blade flexes as expected due to being spring tempered.

While the gif doesn't prove anything as it doesn't destroy antiques, the result is representative of the shown sword type if made in historically correct fashion.

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except if a human were holding that sword instead of a vice that wouldn't happen

there's no proof that he's Jap certified, not that it would've changed the result

>result is representative of the shown sword type if made in historically correct fashion
How about WIELDED in historically correct fashion?

Except that the sword is being held from a point on the grip and a point on the blade essentially making it a solid steel bar. That's not how sword bang against eachother in reality.

The gif is the result of a mythbusters style "Katana can cut through other swords" part of the show.

however if two swords bang against each-other swung at the same time with identical speed hitting the other with equal force it's the same as hitting a fixed object
(same as two cars crashing into each other)
youtube.com/watch?v=xidhx_f-ouU
It proves that if you use a katana incorrectly, parrying with full force edge to edge contact like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc
it'll bend.

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It's always funny to see this video of Kohutovic pop up when he is saying himself that it was kinda outdated when he put it online... in 2009. I don't think there's anything in there he hasn't largely corrected or dismissed, as indicated in the comments.

It still serves to show very intense drills done with minimal protection though.

Kinda sad, his mom found him.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block

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Post modernism is a horrible thing.
I think you are onto something with the average westerner turning abroad to find beauty and meaning in symbols. The fact that the Samurai were meant to be noble and highly moral, and that they followed a code (religiously), and stood for something (almost equivalent to the honour of a Templar knight or crusader) and then all that ''live by the sword'' motif must inevitably captivate the spirit of western men who have all those inherent underlying motifs and values in their Being ---with extremely strong symbols to historic European life --- but which they no longer remember or identify with, and thus they seem to attach their inherent need for these symbols to another culture. E.g Japan / The East.

Jung said they did this because the symbols of the west had lost their power/mysticism/meaning because they had become too common place. The magic or wonder in them had been lost to recognition. He linked this to Nietzsche's 'death of god'. Although I suspect that you are correct about post-modernism spurring it along like crazy.

That's an interesting history about christians. However obviously they moved away from muslim savagery to some extent later on though correct? Muslims are still living in a dogmatic matter willing to see the world burn to maintain their status quo.

No it won't bend you dummy. Have you ever seen two sabers hit eachother? They have a tendency to slide off the curved edge they don't just get locked in place like a movie.