looking into rifle plates. Is there anything wrong with AR500? I keep looking up videos of them and they seem really good for the price they're asking.
are ceramics legitimately better?
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Cameron Mitchell
Colton Gray
infinitely. Steel is better than nothing, but it's still terrible in every way compared to ceramic.
Nathaniel Myers
what are some good ceramic plates then, are the AR500 level III and IV ceramics any good, what other companies make the good shit.
Eli Diaz
Do you have a fantasy or only being shot once? Buy steel plates and let the ceramic shitposters cry somewhere else
Ayden Green
Ceramic plates are good but only if you're a woman who can't carry STEEL plates. Steel plates can take a beating and will absorb more rounds than weak ceramic platelets.
Isaiah Gray
UH OH
Luke Cruz
RMA and Hesco are good quality, but you need to look around and get a feel for the market.
>what is dispersion
>what are multihit ratings
Ceramic is better all-round, and UHMWPE is lighter. Steel is for targets.
Carson Moore
steel is heavy as hell, ceramic is not.
steel is cheap, Ceramic is hella not cheap.
steel will stand up to more than a single event. Ceramic will not.
If you can only afford one set of plates, get steel. if you have a budget equivalent to a police force or military unit, get ceramic or better (rumors of nano-carbon tubes).
if you are actually going to wear it, then just get some kevlar.
Logan Wood
>implying griffonshit is $500
>implying I'd buy it if it was $50
Carter Ortiz
>steel will stand up to more than a single event. ceramic will not.
>steel brainlets actually believe this
Most ceramic is rated for 6 hits in accordance with NIJ III.
Brayden Lewis
>penetration after being used as a literal target for years
yeah, should have used a ceramic plate ;-)
Lucas Roberts
Had a guy in my company who took three 7.62x39mm point-blank to his front SAPI on a previous tour, no penetration. Broke a couple ribs, but otherwise fine.
Outside of persons known, there is also this guy.
>By the time that day was over -April 6, 2007 >Day had been shot 16 times from a distance of within 10 feet,
>not counting the 11 rounds stopped by his body armor.
taskandpurpose.com
Unless you're trying to redo the North Hollywood Shootout, ceramic works just fine.
Nathaniel Wright
>6 hits before it crumbles and is useless
wow amazing good job!
Everyone clap for the ceramic boys!
Adrian Cruz
Ceramics
>twice the price of steel
>lighter
>same exact performance in plates that cost noticeably more otherwise they disintegrate after 2-3 shots
Steel
>same performance for less
>heavier
>will literally outlive you
Spend more money just to be lighter ceramics fags will cite all kinds of sources on why ceramics are “better” but performance wise there isn’t a lot of difference steel is better in all areas including cost
Xavier Rodriguez
>Is there anything wrong with AR500?
Certain loads will zip right through it (like m193 out of a 20" barrel) and it's also heavy as fucking shit
Jack Perez
have an image, courtesy of AR500's website
Luke Martinez
Adrian Bell
Christian Peterson
Spall coating on steel won't last much more than that.
If you're being hit that many times something is terribly wrong anyway.
Brandon Long
>after 6 shots the spray-on pickup bedliner """spall coating""" is gone.
>Next shot splashes perpendicular to the plate, sending molten lead straight into your throat and carotid artery. You bleed out in minutes instead of seconds.
Steel a shit.
Connor Wright
Market is better now, Hesco makes all sorts of military industrial complex shit, I'd trust them to have their shit together.
Landon Mitchell
Anyone have the body armor sticky?
Austin Butler
>Is there anything wrong with AR500?
Just that it will spall and mutilate your face if not outright kill you
Julian Thomas
my hands are kinda sticky ;)
Dylan Gray
What about titanium plates?
Daniel Carter
they're basically PE without the thickness.
Wyatt Cook
This is misleading. M193 penetrated AR500 lvl III+ when shot from a 20” barrel.
Isaac Thomas
There are cheaper functional ones on the market.
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Ryder Martin
>budget plate thread
RMA III+ @ 4.4lb, Multi Curve ~$225
RMA IV @ 8.3 lb, One Size Only, Single Curve $135
HighCom IV @ 7.2 lb, Multi curve $176 w/discount