Redpill me on Rhodesia, the bush war and why you people fetishise them so much
Redpill me on Rhodesia, the bush war and why you people fetishise them so much
Andrew Myers
Zachary Anderson
people like underdogs. and more people like supposedly racist underdogs. they weren't really racist tho, at least it wasn't a real apartheid state.
also aesthetics. camo, gear, it's all just really appealing.
Joshua Harris
THEY FOUGHT SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESNT EVEN MATTERRRR
Lincoln Lee
Babyshit FALs and short shorts are a top tier aesthetic, thats pretty much it.
Robert Bailey
The last hope for an organized, free nation that actually integrates native and european cultures well, and it was all blown to shit by the UN.
Jose Morales
They were basically a run of the mill british colony that was told to decolonize in the face of liberal feefees and black communists, said "fuck that", declared independence, became basically a little United States in Africa, was under international arms embargo yet still survived with a military force that was cartoonishly effective(like 100:1 kds) against rabid racist black communists that pushed south and eventually made it to South Africa.
Basically their whole history and conflict are a microcosm of an endgame white state and they're notoriously a nostalgic people so there's a ton of pictures and content from people who were there and miss it. A lot of vets have crazy stories and continued to operate up into the modern day.
Christopher Gomez
By modern standards? Yes, they were.
By the standards of the time? On the more progressive side in their treatment of natives, especially when compared to SA.
Luis Phillips
>By modern standards?
By modern standards everything is racist. Its gotten to the point where colleges are segregating dorms so blacks can have their own space. Modernity was a mistake.
Isaiah Price
Fucking this
Ayden Martinez
Aiden Miller
> that actually integrates native and european cultures well
Kek'd the retard shit you morons believe.
Adrian Lopez
Why fetishize Rhodesia? Other than aesthetics, because it's a large, intro redpill.
>be Rhodesia under white rule
>cultivate a prosperous, fertile land
>land produces such surplus that black population explodes from increased quality of life/birthrate/lowered infant mortality/immigration
>unprecedented in colonial terms (where "moral" colonizers kill off the indigenous)
>no good dead goes unpunished
>become black Zimbabwe
>oversee a catastrophic, man-made famine
>1 in 3 Zimbabweans starve
>white farmers eventually begged to come back
>understandably don't want to
You know nothing.
Angel Murphy
I have met officers and enlisted from the RAR. Please, tell me what the men who fought for Rhodesia believed.
Parker Kelly
>land produces such surplus that black population explodes from increased quality of life/birthrate/lowered infant mortality/immigration
This is literally the case in every truly "colonized" land. Whites never took land from niggers because there were no niggers there because niggers can't into agriculture. They only showed up, produced such abundance that local nigger population exploded, and then started complaining because they have no concept of self-restraint (unlike whites).
Camden Perry
I personally find it interesting because it was like a smaller but more dangerous Vietnam War. Also, their tactics against guerrillas are still unmatched to this very day. To tell you the truth, I sometimes wonder what it would be like if the Confederate government somehow and they decided to aid Rhodesia. That would be so fucking awesome!
Josiah Adams
Any good movies set in the time period?
Ian Lee
They're fetishized by some because it was an example of Europeans using their know-how to help native Africans run a country that was about as good as something you see in the west. It's fetishized by others because they think that, since the Rhodesians were fighting against the all-black ZANLA as well as other african communist groups, it was some blacks vs whites race war, when in fact there were many blacks in Rhodesia, and they were treated well, allowed to hold office, and allowed to fight for their country.
Evan Lewis
There a little documentary on the Rhodesian fireforce on YouTube where you get to see a guerrilla get shot in the chest by a FAL and die. It's fucking awesome, man! Here's the video! : youtube.com
Dominic White
That's the thing. Leftists want to judge every historical event and individual by modern standards, and that's why you have shit like them going after old statues and cemeteries, them trying to bomb a civil war reenactment, or going after Fireforce Ventures.
Charles Gomez
Andrew Garcia
failed nation of white supremacists worshiped by failed white supremacists
Juan Foster
Your dumb happiness and exclamation points make me happy. I hope you have a fantastic day
Jayden Barnes
>failed nation of white supremacists worshiped by failed white supremacists
>literally black soldiers working for the rhodie government in the OP's photo
>the Rhodies actively worked towards integration
FUCKING IDIOT
GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD
Connor Parker
Do you -like- the taste of bait?
Nicholas Perez
It's Jow Forums, we love the taste of bait.
Jace Myers
What bait and tackle store sold you this cheap shit?
Cameron Cook
It happens at 4:24 where the guerilla goes to the big empty famine land in the sky.
Easton Jones
They fought to prevent this
Matthew Fisher
This
Julian Sanders
Checked
Chase Wright
This.
Aiden Richardson
The quest for oil profits.
Gabriel Nguyen
I served with a dude in the army that was from Zimbawe, better yet..he called himself rhodesian. He loved america, hated commies, loved women, drank like a champ, hated commies , ate hot dogs and was a great shot and amazing soldier . During deployment he was the go to guy on his squad and eventually when I got out I heard he got his 5 and went to DS school. Also......
he was black.
Dont let anyone tell you Rhodesia was racist country. That's what the liberal media wants you to believe, they were tons of blacks in their armies who owned land and held office. They weren't as educated as some of their white counterparts but they loved their country and their fellow countrymen more than anything. Rhodesia was fucked by the UN because the UN and the US didn't like the fact that they used their own resources, wealth and oil to be apart from the African colonies and wanted nothing to do with the rest of the globalization going on.
Rhodesia will always live in our hearts.
Daniel Lewis
Don't drag the rest of us into this just because you're too stupid to avoid obvious bait.
Julian White
Thanks mate, that was a great video.
Owen Moore
No problem, my dude!
Wyatt Peterson
This is the case with every nigger land whites made better
Jaxson Walker
Thanks, man!
John Rivera
Highly recommend the last Prime Minister of Rhodesia Ian Smith's memoirs, titled "The Great Betrayal" or sometimes "bitter harvest". Presents a compelling argument in favor of the Rhodesian plan for gradual integration & why the UDI was necessary.
Landon Garcia
>they weren't racist
[denies education, government positions and civil rights to blacks in egalitarianism]
Lucas Davis
this is a weird political compass
Jordan Adams
Blacks had all three of these things.
It was basically a weighted proportional voting system.
Carter Wilson
Of course they were racist but you really know absolutely nothing about how their system worked. It was quite simple and in some ways similar to the weighted proportional voting systems of European countries prior to mass enfranchisement
Everyone could vote. Those who did not meet education and property requirements had a smaller proportional say. Everyone received an education, but obviously whites got a better one. Black rhodesians received one of the best, if not the best, educations of any blacks on the continent.
There is so much total misrepresentation, on both sides
Aaron Jackson
>bombing a reinactment site
Wtf source?
Hudson Jenkins
In fact, one of the biggest problems the Rhodesian government experienced was the extremely high percentage of educated opposition figures relative to other African colonies. Because unlike in places like Angola, the government had paid to educate them all
Zachary Phillips
Grayson Johnson
Also this.
Robert Miller
Which wasn't great but compared to literally everywhere else on Africa it was heaven.
David Reed
TBF New Zealand integrated native and British cultures well.
Jaxon Anderson
>endgame white state
How exactly do you mean? It was like 80% native African.
Aiden Flores
It was from 2017. Aftermath of C-Ville.
Aiden Walker
they used horses in combat.
Xavier Phillips
>tfw no thicc thighed rhodie gf
Christopher Parker
he said endgame
Connor Price
And I don't follow. Could you explain?
Grayson Robinson
To great effect too.
Brody Ortiz
god bless you
Alexander Butler
>told the commies to eat shit
>short shorts
>didn't back down against overwhelming enemy numbers
>FALs
>masters of self reliance due to nearly unanimous trade embargos
>ridiculous k/d ratio
>the best folk music in the known universe
The best part though, is that Rhodesians Never Die.
Luke Ramirez
>fetishise
i do not get sexual pleasure from the rhodesian bush war, what a ridiculous notion. rephrase ypur question using english correctly and then ill answer
Kevin Moore
oh i bet
Nicholas Turner
B-b-but Wakanda
David Bell
RIP
Blake Baker
Look at demographics in the not so long term
Asher Gonzalez
what about them?
Sebastian Garcia
Who gives a fuck if they were racist or not you redditor. They did what they had to do to have civilization in Africa. You fags act like any degree of racial realism automatically equals holocaust. You can have race based laws for the benefit of everyone.
Samuel Perry
Which other "colonized" lands does this apply to?
Kevin Campbell
They get a bad rap for putting up this years long struggle against unironic black supremacist communist guerrillas that are now quite literally genociding the remaining white population in the area.
They weren't great by modern standards in terms of race relations but they weren't mosnters or malicious, they were trying to find a way to let every vote and get educated without just handing the democracy over to totally untrained and uninformed people like they'd watched happen with other British colonies; colonies which collapsed, often violently, into bureaucratic and authoritarian nightmare states.
Asher James
winrar
Justin Rogers
no same guy, but no shit it isn't the Holocaust, but Hitler didn't go from weirmar republic to holocaust in one day, there was about 8 years of build-up, most of which was race laws.
Noah Williams
Because Jow Forums fantasizes about men wearing girl shorts and killing niggers all day.
Nathaniel Jackson
Did Rhodesia have race-based laws?
Caleb Parker
those with simple minds see the world in simple terms
Tyler Wright
some, but none worse than what the USA had at the same time.
Jayden Evans
>Redpill me on Rhodesia
A group retards with huge funding and donations move onto land that isn't theirs and forced the indigenous people off of it.
Retards in this will say "duh blacks wasn't on da land" despite all anthropological evidence to the contrary.
The War started because the ruling political class, the whites, decided that they would never give the native peoples any sort of equality and thought they could get away with some sort of pseudo-segregation american system in the 1970s, the 19 FUCKING 70s. When the phrase "Civil Rights", was the saying this side on the millennium.
And at the last second the brainlet Rhodie politicians decided to amend their constitution to purposefully keep the natives in perpetual poverty, and it came to light that some of their politicians may have been Nazi sympathizers.
This caused all of Europe to turn its back on them and almost even South Africa. But Israel was still selling weapons to them.
Had the Rhodies not been fucking stupid, they'd still have their nation today. But no, they drove the locals into the arms of the group that would assist them. The Communists.
gg rhodietards
Adam Kelly
>Did Rhodesia have race-based laws?
yeah a lot of them too
>but none worse than what the USA had at the same time.
Just the Nazi borrowed laws from the US to segregate jews. Rhodies did the exact same thing.
Dominic Phillips
imagine being this wrong
Nicholas Gray
Other than the whole black members of parliament and soldiers and voters etc.
Josiah Morgan
With bait this good who needs arguments?
Colton Watson
>A group retards with huge funding and donations move onto land that isn't theirs and forced the indigenous people off of it.
Blame the british for this.
>Retards in this will say "duh blacks wasn't on da land" despite all anthropological evidence to the contrary.
it's under general debate, it's hard to keep track of people without widespread writing.
>The War started because the ruling political class, the whites, decided that they would never give the native peoples any sort of equality and thought they could get away with some sort of pseudo-segregation american system in the 1970s, the 19 FUCKING 70s. When the phrase "Civil Rights", was the saying this side on the millennium.
They were rather equal compared to elsewhere. Not nazi germany, but not super liberal town either, relatively average leaning liberal in terms of race laws.
>And at the last second the brainlet Rhodie politicians decided to amend their constitution to purposefully keep the natives in perpetual poverty, and it came to light that some of their politicians may have been Nazi sympathizers.
You are aware most of the parlement and ian smith were WW2 vets right?
Matthew Jones
>black members who had zero power and were constantly outnumbered in the vote
they were transparently show ponies
nice rebuttals 11/10 would reply again
Joshua Thompson
IDK if that's bait, maybe. maybe not.
Wyatt Long
This post is causing asshurt because it’s correct
People on this board like to bitch about how the commies destroyed them without asking themselves why the commies did so well and were so popular in the first place
Julian Rogers
They very much had power and were often looked to for advice. They also had a system to put in more black members and had unelected members based off of tribes.
Parker Wood
lies and deceit is the short answer
Blake Lewis
nice to see that share blue shills aren't jobless
I was worried y'all would be homeless after huffpo had to sack your lazy opinion piece asses, oh wait I wasn't
Jacob Nelson
Modern racists fetishizing historical racists, simple as that.
Robert Ramirez
>how did they get popular
the same as any socialist
they promised gib-me-dats
Easton King
you came in here and shit up the thread without addressing anyone else's argument, so why should I bother addressing yours when you're obviously trolling?
Isaac Flores
because they had soviet support and could freely operate in almost every surrounding black majority country you fucking mongoloid
Jose Peterson
Socialists rewriting history so they can sell people on wealth redistribution and statism, simple as that
Austin Foster
I am literally black and love Rhodesia. Do I hate my own race?
Josiah Russell
Nice try Ian
Alexander Anderson
they're just gonna call you an uncle tom or a liar or something
it's a communist shill
any friend of Rhodesia is welcome, regardless of your skin tone
Camden Baker
I would hope so, I learned about Rhodesia from a converted gurrila in the Selous Scouts who was an old family friend. Cool dude.
Tyler Morgan
No you just have a working brain.
Nolan Myers
Fuckin A man I got my education from an older Australian gent who spent some time working as a bodyguard for a farmer there, obviously he wasn't in any combat (he was a professional hunter by trade not a soldier) but he saw things there with his own eyes.
Austin Bailey
>y-you're just trollin, who cares if I won't address your points
Austin Miller
Jack Lee
Ryder Evans
Stormfags post this whenever the left is super retarded to try to capture the enemy of my enemy is my friend feels.