What do you all use to defend your home? I live in an apartment with people to my right and above and I cant fucking decide what the best choice might be. There might NOT be a best choice considering the walls are cheapo drywall little better than cardboard. I have a mossman 500 with some highbrass #4 birdshot at the moment and I desperately hope it wont punch through 2-3 layers of drywall and kill a neighbor but can still oneshot someone 10-15 feet away
What do you all use to defend your home...
Aiden Williams
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Wyatt Allen
Try buckshot to punch some serious arteries.
Jackson Jackson
That would depend a lot on the layout. "To the right" doesn't help me a lot. Not trying to be catty, that wasn't meant to sound shitty. I'm assuming you mean like in pic related. It would really depend on how your doors and hallways are situated.
Christian Scott
#4 buck or smaller would probably be OK. A shockwave with a brace is super compact and lowers the velocity just a touch. I would stay away from bird shot, even at very close range it has issues. Definitely avoid pistols and rifles though. Maybe super light 5.7 would work too, assuming you don't miss.
Ryan Perez
I live in an apartment as well.
I have a P365 on my nightstand, a mossman 500 next to the nightstand, 2 ARs next to that, another shotgun next to those, a glock 17 and a glock 22 next to that, a 1911 next to those, and a desert eagle next to that.
Next to the deagle I have a .308 pistol and an AK pistol.
Every one of them is loaded with a round in the chamber, shotguns are cruiser ready.
If someone breaks into my place, it's gonna get loud.
Leo Rodriguez
Planned setup for next month
>Remmy 870 HD wood
>ryovak "Indestructible" flashlight mounted between mag tube and barrel
>rifle sights
>side saddle of 000 buck
>buttstock shell carrier of slugs
Thots? I need something long lasting and effective while I save up for a mk23 and all the add ons I have planned for that
Current setup
>Litterally just my CC pistol and a flashlight
Blake Watson
depends on what I played with last. my AR is always locked and loaded by my bed but that thing is heavy as fuck and not really a good apartment defense. Honestly though, it's 90% of the time my glock 19 gen 5 just because I know it will always work, and that the night sights are bright af
Christopher Jackson
Sounds pretty good to me. The 870 is my favorite shotgun even though new ones can be sketchy. My main HD gun is a USP with an extendo and TLR1s.
Jackson Williams
Never got why people would have multiple guns out if you live alone, i can see a pistol for that late night knock at your door and a long gun if you know someones inside already.
Unless you’re machamp. Lol
Joseph Ward
20 inch M16a4 clone. Not totally clone correct because I have a Surefire M600 and a Aimpoint PRO on it.
I have a VP9 with night sights, but I don't have a light for that. Feels like I should get one, but I don't want to.
Brandon Turner
>implying I live alone
All but two of the guns I listed are in an open safe 4' from my bed, I was just being dramatic since they all live in the same metal box together. I close the safe when I'm not home (unless my wife stays home), it stays open otherwise.
Grayson Johnson
Carbine rifle, 10-14" barrel using 5.56 NATO ammo with brass casing for reliability. Get M-LOK handguard and put a flashlight on it. All you need.
Noah Roberts
My legs. NJ citizens have a duty to flee before meeting their assailant with only equal force.
Connor Flores
PTR-91, Bayonet, Malaysian L2A2
Fuck the neighbors
Leo Green
I use a Draco "pistol" with a 40 round magazine. Also have a Px4 loaded and ready. These are probably not the best for you with your shitty apartment walls and worries of over penetration.
>oneshot someone
Do not rely on one shot. If they get one they get several, especially with bird shot. Just because it's a shotgun doesn't mean it's going to instantly drop them even with slugs. This is apparently a common thing with shotguns, people shoot once expecting the guy to be dead as fuck even when it's cheap 2 3/4" birdshot from wal-mart. As much as some people act like it's about as effective as shooting them with an airsoft gun it's absolutely not. Birdshot can and will fuck shit up if you're close enough, like in a typical apartment. It's certainly not ideal as there are MUCH better shells out there but it can work. You should get your hands on some buckshot and a couple slugs just in case. If you're worried load bird in the chamber and half the tube, other half buck, then slugs in a side saddle where you can pop'em in if you need.
If you don't want any over penetration risk period melee is also a solid option if the ranges are short enough in your apartment. A short spear or a sword can still be brutal in close quarters even if the home invader's got his glawk fowtee in his waistband. Just make sure to go and learn how to actually use what you pick and practice with a dummy in your apartment so you know how to get the bad guy and not fuck yourself over. If you have short enough space to get the drop on an intruder and before they can properly react it can still work just fine even if it's a thousand year old sword design. If you can still react appropriately with a guy slashing and stabbing you with a sword or other nasty thing then you're a tougher man than most or a liar. Guns are still going to be the better choice in just about every scenario but this is an option.
Connor Bennett
9mm Beretta loaded with 147gr hollowpoints. Don't want to shoot my neighbor due to too much penetration.
Daniel Carter
That’s about the safest option in your situation. Is it the best thing to defend your home with? Probably not, but if a major concern is over penetration, then high brass birdshot is about as god as it gets.
Gabriel Brown
My shotgat
Christopher Green
a 590a1 w/ 00 buck
maybe consider smaller #4 or #1 buckshot loads since overpenetration seems to be a notable concern of yours
lots of good penetration tests online
sounds fine imo
make sure to practice checking and sighting around corners
practice w/ your light
Austin Wood
A baton and a cz 75
Ian Butler
Mossberg 88
Camden Wilson
This is my current setup.
Leo Collins
I'm 4th degree black belt in Taekwondo.
Ryder Reyes
Brody Fisher
14.5” AR loaded with 77gr TMK. I just shot a few hogs with this last week and I was impressed esp considering the ranges I’ll be using the rifle will be much shorter then what I wa shooting hogs at
Brandon Clark
No light?
Jose Evans
Lol mine isn’t as loud as I expected but boy I bet indoors that thing would be fun.
EEEEeeereeEEEeeeeeeEeeEEEEreeEee
Matthew Ortiz
Jesus Christ that’s sad
Juan Wood
>No brace
Good, if you follow SBR rifle and shotgun laws, you’re retarded.
Jaxson Adams
illegal in my country
Joseph Howard
Get a mossman not a rustington, don’t waste your time with the meme rounds. Loaded with #4 and maybe a side saddle of 00. A light was a good idea though
Sebastian Flores
>What do you all use to defend your home?
pic related on a shelf in my bedroom
Jacob Lopez
You can own a gun but not a flashlight ?
Fucking hell polticians need purged.
Jason White
light and lasers only for the gov because you dont need it for sportshooting.home defence is not a reason for a gun license here.only hunting and sport.so iam a "sportsman"
Leo Campbell
So then if you do shoot someone how fucked are you?
Alexander Garcia
post pics pls
John Hill
Thomas Watson
Have you ever seen such a majestic pup?
Eli Perry
Thats a good picture, user
Colton Price
Thanks dood
Luke Martinez
I've got a Winchester 1300 loaded up with #4 in the corner but by my bed I keep my Glock 19 17+1, and a 30 rnd mag by it. I'd probably grab the Glock the shotgun is just there for whatever. Also an AR near shotgun I wouldn't use
Jackson Russell
I wanted entry/exits on dead hogs with 77gr tmk tho :s
Brody Martinez
Lol ohhhhh wasn’t sure what you wanted. sorry user I don’t have any pictures to share didn’t think about it at the time, it was the first time hunting and my first kill/kills. I can say that at about 80 yards the TMK was fragmenting out of a 14.5” and fucked up the two hogs I shot.
Nathaniel Wilson
get a baseball bat
Levi Fisher
Even though I live in a concrete cube apartment, the walls are thick, I am afraid for the family straight across the door, because I would give chase guns blazing.
A 22.lr pistol might be the safest option´to ensure neighbour safety. And from what I've read, perpetrators usually flee at the slightest hint of armed resistance.
desu, a blank pistol might do the job, but I'd rather have them panic about removing that small ball of lead in the lung, rather than giving just a spook
Anthony Diaz
Why would you pick an unreliable Ammo
In a life/ death situation Just to try and mitigate the off chance your bullet leaves your home, enters your neighbors at just the right spot to hit them.
Isaac Morales
Cooper Edwards
I have been in a fight a couple of times.
What I learned from myself is that I go blind with red, but I fully function, and hear white noise until the fight is over.
If I had a firearm in those situations, especially when my home and wife are on the line, its best to minimize the collateral.
>I know it sounds fucking corny, but that is how it is
Bentley Robinson
I like this. I really love this new push for short barrels on things that don’t require NFA paperwork. Don’t get me wrong, actual stocks are nicer but who doesn’t love choices. I need a 12gauge in my life and I’m leaning toward a short barrel
Kevin Butler
You should minimize the collateral by not getting your shit pushed in after your 22lr doesn’t go off and doesn’t eject properly
Anthony Morgan
Thoughts on the Mossberg 500 retrograde?
Matthew Anderson
I have the same setup with a 18.5 barrel. I’m ordering a bayonet on Monday. Just custom built my cap.
Jordan Clark
Id rather give $100 to Sb tactical than $200 to the ATF
Landon Sullivan
>What do you all use to defend your home?
An AR
>I have a mossman 500 with some highbrass #4 birdshot at the moment
Dumb choice.
Aaron Rogers
***PROTIP***
>you can pre-plan your home to prepare against potential overpenetration, a gunfight in your living space is a home game
>bookcases with shit loaded in them in areas that are likely to be around an attacker’s route of approach
***PROTIP***
It also behooves you to be proficient with your firearms usage. Shooting stupid fast looks cool on instagram but have a very strict standard of accuracy and know where to hit someone
>high center chest, 5 to 8 inch circles at the range for practice
>cranial vault, 3x5 index card or 2 inch circles for practice
Using a .223 AR15 and understanding your holdovers is a fantastic HD weapon. They provide great lethality while being the least dangerous in terms of overpenetration and the obvious one; using an AR at typical home engagement distances is literal babbymode easy.
Caleb Torres
00 buckshot 12 gauge and a .40 pistol. I'm in the woods so whatever. The odds of you missing an entire round of buckshot at 15 feet, having it sail through only drywall on its way through two apartments, and then hitting a person 40 feet away, two feet off the ground, lying vertically, are not high. You also probably have a firewall to your right. Worst case just blame the dead guy.
Ayden Carter
I can understand that but I like guns for reasons other then straight functionality so sometimes I prefer being able to
Put a real stock on it. For my Draco it was nice having a brace on it but I really wanted the classic look so I SBRd it
Brody Gutierrez
I was seriously looking into an sbs. My chief concern was the rigidity of the brace. Gotta say, not a let down.
Jose Roberts
Same here for actual use my SB brace worked well with my AK. I wanted a dong and a wire folding stock though so I bit the bullet. I should g et the AK back from two Rivers arms soon so I’ll see if it was worth it.
I was considering getting a rustington V3 birds head and switching it for a brace instead just for shits and giggles.
How well do SBSs work for things like
Hunting?
Leo Gutierrez
Mmmm...braced,(based), Shockwave...
Levi Wright
MD has the same shit law. Its fucking stupid.
John Fisher
Isnt it just a basic mossberg 500 with wood furniture?
Luis Barnes
Thomas Collins
Yes and No
It's a 590 with a thicker barrel, actual sights, heat shield, steel trigger assembly, bayonet lug, and walnut furniture.
Connor Gomez
That grip is so light for a good couple minutes I thought it wasn't there at and was real fucking confused.
Aiden Harris
fucking based magazine defense, roll that shit up and go all Jason Bourne on them
Samuel Lewis
>walls are glorified cardboard
You got ripped off, retard. I live in a second world shithole and appartment walls are concrete or brick.
Mason Hill
I recognize that range!
Ryan Taylor
>you dont need it for sportshooting
>implying night shooting competitions are not a thing
Alexander Young
Nice LARP nogunz
You play Call of Duty?
Jayden Morales
Yeah, it's a work in progress! No finish yet. Once I get that wood corncob stripped, I'll finish them both to match.
Good eye, guy.
Adrian Evans
I am in and out of my house so often, than I am usually just strapped when I am at home. So MP 2.0 compact. If its bed time, I got handgun on night stand with a tlr 1 on it. AR 15 next to bed. Also keep a lever action in .44 next to the bed too, because of black bear and cougars.
Dylan Rodriguez
Between every apartment? I fucking doubt it.
Carter Campbell
lmao did you make this user?
Matthew Cox
But that's fucking dumb. If you come home and someone is already inside, you just armed your opposition. Not to mention all your shit will probably just get stolen when you aren't home.
Nicholas Bell
its an A1 with wood and a heat-shield
Dylan Cooper
I can only wish, but in my shithole you're more likely to get a bigger sentence that the robber if you try defending yourself with a gun.
Jeremiah Bell
Kevin Richardson
If I'm not home, all the guns go inside except my CC.
Safe is bolted to apartment floor and wall. I'm not too worried about it.
I dont live in a terrible neighborhood and no one knows I have guns.
Jordan Green
Where do you live? I live in GA and I want to go hot hunting for the first time.
Easton Morales
>home and wife are on the line
>I'll just use an unreliable and weak firearm instead of choosing a wiser ammo choice or just training
#4 Buck is excellent for what you want. It's still powerful enough at close range, but won't over penetrate too bad.
Also, you shouldn't chase them out the door "guns blazing", that's a great way to kill your neighbors on accident, and then get indicted for murder.
Tyler Jones
300 meme with a 10.5" barrel and a can.
Caleb Butler
gross.
Thomas Cox
WASR with 9 magazines in a sadf chest rig next to the bed and if that fails me I've got the new army that gets shot and reloaded every week. My mossy 500 stays locked up for now as well as the Glock 20, but they get rotated out.
Jonathan Cox
>AK47 w/ 30 round clip
>Glock 17 with 15 round clip
>Moist Nugget with 5 round mag
Gavin Brooks
based and clippilled