Jow Forums vs the creatures of Carboniferous period

Get a squad of men with flame throwers and heat-resistant suits, and torch everything.
Flamethrowers have more range than you think, and no living being known to man enjoys burning alive.

lmao cuck

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The idea of destroying entire portions of the forest by fire only to create of a "safe" area is reasonable.
Imagine how societies would differ in this world: no field trips with the school, a life spent in segregation with people spending all their wealth only to get as closer to the center of "fortress-like city" to have shelter and better protection.

Anti-enviromentism being a legit political affiliation...basically Australia on steroids

It really irks me that people seem to think basic firearms aren't good enough for hunting and killing prehistoric creatures.

They're just animals, not literal monsters. Can your weapon harm/kill a bear? Then it can do the same to most animals.
Sure, as you get 'up there' in animal size you start to need things that can deal with comparable problems, but if you think the kinds of weapons they use for hunting rhinoceros and elephants won't put down a rex, you're pretty deluded.

Hell even 'small' firearms are pretty fucking lethal to an animal, it's just a question of whether or not it has the stopping power to put the thing down instantly, or at least before it has a chance to harm you.

No, they're big monsters and I gotta kill them all with big ass weapons because REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sanity

Fuck, when you put it like that...

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HCAR BAR from Ohio Ordiance with Armor Peircing incendiaries in 30-06 will work well enough

>Shooting through the armor
>Not going around it
Ricochet a round off the ground and into it’s soft underbelly, duh.

Aren't those actually ancestors of millipedes and herbivorous? Could have sworn they were.

Anyways a typical rifle would kill the shit out of that. Could probably do it with shotguns too, just no birdshit. It's not like the thing's carapace is made of steel. You'd be able to take on just about anything in the carboniferous with shotguns and AKs.

10/10 would investigate with

You are thinking in terms of "vertebrate" bugs and crawlers are the closer thing to monster we have in real life.
They can sustain ludicrous amount of damage and don t give a fuck, I don t even know if they intend pain as we do.
You can behead a roach and it will just keep buzzing around for a while without its head...how is this not a monstrocity?
Imagine this shit on a 100Xscale, this is what we are talking about.

Dear god man.

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Black sclera just do it for me. Maybe it just reminds me of Renamon.

lmoa cosplay-tier casual

at least we can take solace in the fact that giant insects are physically impossible in our current atmosphere.

You are why I hate normalfags. It was a millipede and fed on plant detritus.

On the side, here are some environmental tips for that era:
>The atmosphere was thick and rich with CO2 (x3 today)
>But also oxygen (162% of today)
>Huge motherfucking 'trees'
>Massive fucking pile-ups of dead 'trees' fucking everywhere (little to no life that could decompose the incarnations of the time)
>explosive forest-fires due to this and the high oxygen levels
So be careful with sparks and fires, user. Ok?

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Insects and arthropods are very resilient. If they're still intact, they'll still fight

Whoever wrote the article with your image is a moron. The largest invertebrates that ever existed were giant squid, jellyfish, octopi, etc

>Jow Forums vs the creatures of Carboniferous period
Flamethrower all day long and some petrol bombs

>300 million years ago
The earth is only 6000 years old you fucking heathens.

I think you're severely overestimating them, especially when super sized. It won't scale even close to perfectly with our tiny versions. A proper bullet would wreak havoc on the soft squishy insides of a giant arthropod. I'd be shocked if something like arthropleura could stand up to pretty much any rifle round and even some common some pistol rounds. Buckshot would do nasty disgusting horrible things to carboniferous bugs. Many of them are still small enough that even birdshot would be dangerous for them. While the time period is full of horror shows like giant scorpions over 2 feet long and bird sized dragonflies most things worth mentioning are going to die when put up against a human with a basic firearm.

Isn't it a little too late in the thread to start baiting?

Being supersized certainly makes things unpredictable, but im not sure that even supersized buggies will immediately drop. A CNS hit likely won't one shot drop, they dont have lungs, and even their hearts are far different than ours. Bugs tend to die slowly unless they're cooked or completely torn up

>mfw stan is so good at being tricksy he made people see something way cooler than just making life as heresy

Isn't it sad that now we see shit like this as bait by default rather than good old fashioned satire?

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Think about what bullets do when going through gels and liquids. Now think about what the inside of a giant arthropod is like. It's going to die and it's going to be messy.

But will it die before it gets close enough to ruin my day?

Are you fags forgetting the reason shit grew so big in the carniferous period is because of the high oxygen levels in the atmosphere? You’d blow the whole fucking forest up, yourselves included, with a flammenwerfer

You just described Nausicaa.

Arthropleura was a millipede, not a centipede

Compiling that information with the fact that its mouthparts were too soft to fossilise and that their GI-tracts contain traces of plants its safe to assume they were herbivores, perhaps with a small amount of opportunistic carnivory

Thier lack of many predators would also imply they would be gentle giants, so i'd find it unnecessary to bully them.

Besides they're sort of cute.

Nausicaa might possibly be the best girl.
Millipedes are pretty cute.

Yes. Unless you're not paying attention and walk into something or get ambushed by spooking something looking for it's usual prey the answer is yes. It's also very unlikely these things would go out of their way to attack the human like in every bad time travel or mysterious island monster movie ever.

Humans are murder machines and we often forget that because we see ourselves as weak. We are legitimately one of this planet's scariest species and most of us apparently don't even realize it. We're shockingly a fairly big species too. Drop us in any time period with a suitable environment and atmosphere and we will dominate it.

Based Catachan poster

Oh yeah I forgot about the giant dragonfly.
That would be pretty bad for us...quite sure they would predate on us ( it is normal for them to hunt bigger pray) same goes for anything below the 2 feet I guess... the worst part is that dragonflies are the best predator that the world has ever seen: when they hunt they have a 98% chance to kill the pray.
That would be even worse than dealing with the giant centipede.
Maybe if you are a 100kg dude of 6.3feet
They may not attack you.
But 45kg women and children are just breakfast.

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>steal ores from extreamly oxygen rich caves
>stupid huge bugs show up
>anytime an armored one shows up flamethrower man cooks it alive.

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Looks like dwarf fortress without transgenders

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It’s pretty good especially if you have friends to play with. No pussy shit too so all good.

FUCK A IFFY BUG UHH

ROACHES FINNA KNOWBOUT THA HEATAH

Oh yeah, small pets and children are turbo fucked, like everything up to 5 year olds and 50 lbs animals.

i would watch this anime

Reminder that Jow Forums would cook alive in the carboniferous period. Earth was much hotter back then due to all the nitrogen and carbon dioxide in the air. Jow Forums should think of equipment first.

Unironically something loaded with this goofy ass mall ninja ammo.
Gonna Go with a Calico SMG for memes.

It's Polymer-Metal light weight non expanding ammo, with higher than average velocity and better penetration that average it'd go right through that chitin "armor", and it relies on hydraulic shock from the flutes for terminal effect, which would totally fuck the squishy liquid/goo filled insides of a large invertebrate.

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I'm gonna have to ask on that "normal for them to hunt bigger prey" line

The entire hunting strategy of modern day odonates (with very few exceptions) relies on intercepting and overpowering prey, and the key behind their success rate is that they only go after prey items that their bug brains determine are easy pickings, meaning smaller than they were (with the exception of wingspan).

Its like saying that because a venus flytrap successfully captures its specific prey most of the time that it could easily kill humans.

You only need look at the forelimbs of a dragonfly, They use them as a "fork" to capture prey, which only really works if its narrow

High oxygen content was more at the end of the carboniferous period.

The fire hazard is consisten yet exaggerated.

But I believe that the best places to survive are those in the colder areas (poles) were the bugs can t proliferate and where trees are numbered.
It would be like Alaska but with more Hazards...

would guns be viable in this time then with the high oxygen? Firing a bullet could cause a massive explosion.

I didn't though.
>and bird sized dragonflies
Those are included in the "fucked by birdshot" category. And again, millipede, herbivorous millipede.

Humans wipe out entire species. When we don't care about environmental impact everything not directly beneficial to us dies whether it's because we killed it for fun or because it hindered us in some way. We are the most lethal species on the planet and it's a good shot we have the longest list as far as "species we killed to extinction" goes. Per hunt is irrelevant on the scale humans kill when we are hungry, out of fucks to give, and/or bored. You can bet your ass meganeura would be wiped out in the immediate area the moment they started actively going after us. No bag limit or even a bounty and they're done anywhere near us.

That over 90% success rate is also against things they snag in the air, like fruit flies (which is what the study used), as that is their hunting method. They are fly catchers rather than hunting for things on the ground. They probably do if they need to but their prey is usually flying, so leave your pet birds at home. A lot of things on the ground tend to eat dragonflies if they can catch them and it was probably just as true back then with the amphibians and super sized ground bugs like pulmonoscorpius. The idea that they'll go after things that are not only on the ground, but much bigger than them is just stupid. I'd be more worried about things like the scorpions and local large amphibians.

Oxygen doesn't burn or explode. and virtually all modern propellants oxidized within the "powder".

Worst you'd have to worry about is starting fires with muzzle flash/sparks.

a 243 with a monolithic copper bullet like a tsx or gmx would go straight through even a t-rex's vitals and out the other side. It's just a big lizard. From there let it bleed out in a minute or so
>r-right guys?
I really think it would but Im not well versed in terminal performance on giant lizards or centipede

Think chemistry, the extra oxygen would only matter if the heat has extra reducing agent (fuel) around

I think we should just use ballistas and steel crossbow bolts to remove the fire hazard. Did the poles exist back then?

If lightning and volcanism can exist without exploding everything into a burning apocalyptic hellscape a gunshot can too. There'd just be a bigger fire hazard as things catching fire would be easier in the more oxygen rich environment.

Im 99% sure Ive glanced cheap 9mm 115gr@1050 fps off the sides of armadillo. Not square hits but when shooting toward the ass and hitting angled off the side and finding the body on one I was confident that the marking on the shell is where I hit. I switched to 124gr@1150fps nato and stopped having problems with that little boost. If true, Id accept that buckshot being worse for penetration would be even more likely not to penetrate but might cause enough trauma under the shell to kill at close range.
Ive heard a lot of stories of birdshot and even that calibers lighter than 9mm like 380 and 38spc ricochet off more often. Ive never had the issue with 22lr out of a longer barrel ruger pistol but that might be due to its narrower diameter.

just saying, animal kingdom might genuinely have some bullet resistant armor

It's funny that we have to invent swarming biological weapons to feel threatened on a social scale. It's literally "the guns kill too many people (and can take out cleet carriers in orbit) ban the guns" translated into action movies.

>That would be pretty bad for us...quite sure they would predate on us
Oh for fuck’s sake. Life isn’t like video games you dumb zoomer. Their mouthparts weren’t that large, and all dragonflies specialize in capturing flying prey, namely other insects.

It was a herbivore.

Sure but there's a limit and if you hit the thing legit it's probably going through, if it doesn't there's a round that will and you probably don't have to go too far up the chain to get it. If you go high enough it's going to do it even with a bad shot, that caliber in this scenario probably isn't nearly as high as OP wanted to think.

Honestly we'd probably go the livestock route with arthropleura raher than end up in some stupid Kong style death match. Low maintenance walking food that can protect itself just by being what it is would be great. Only issue is if they had their modern descendant's adaptations involving cyanide. Even then those segment plates probably would be quite useful. Ready made roofing sections that don't rot and possibly repel pests would be another solid use.

It is like the argument that some treeh. Huggers used to defend white sharks: you are not a natural prey for them.
Guess what
You are just walking protein for the ecosystem.
They don t care.
Case point
Eagle vs baby
youtu.be/CE0Q904gtMI

Means the job is done.

But that's all women

Dragonflies eat flying shit not ground shit.

We know you desperately want this to be a scenario where everything is trying to eat us just because 2005 King Kong style, but that's dumb as shit.

Stupid zoomer.
npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/12/19/167610327/eagle-snatches-kid-video-the-debunking-begins

Wouldn't you just shoot them? Chitin isn't bullet proof by any means. Besides, even a non penetrating blow would deliver enough force to the squishy bits to cause serious damage anyway. I would be more worried about the smaller, more venomous creepy crawlies of the time period. Or perhaps large carnivorous amphibians and fish.

>comparing generalist predators and scavengers to specialised predators
>using a single clickbait video as evidence

man please tell me you're just tired or drunk

I’m going to go with option C: stupid

Fact: if it preys on goats it can prey on you
Video evidence
youtu.be/mSakpTgJcf4

.22 it is.

A man of culture.

Yeah, a dragonfly the size of a sub sandwich would definitely be a threat. Sure.

>giant horror bug
>wants to eat it and use it as building materials
Based humanity.

She can be ANYTHING you want her to be.

Don’t forget, she can literally blow your mind and destroy your penis.

one man's horror bug is another man's roofing tiles

These guys have the right idea. Flamethrowers to good those bad boys. However, you're gonna want to bring some butter and white wine because man those suckers are gonna be good.

Higher O2 doesn't mean you'll blow up the world if you start a fire, it just means you'll have an easier time to starting the fire. So in that case, I'd say trap them, put them in a giant pot of water and set a fire to boil said water. Good eatin.

a quick google search tells me that today about 21% of the air is oxygen, and at its peak in the carboniferous period was 35%. how much of a difference can 14% make?
thats an actual question im a brainlet, but you make it seem like the entire planet would explode, or there weren't forest fires back then.

That's kinda hot and all but why do I get a feeling that you might find a large percentage of your body mass replaced with foreign matter after any consensual or non-consensual activities?
>ay yo y my dick staring back at me

>this thread activates my autism
Technically, Arthropleura was closer to millipedes- it was vegetarian, possibly detritivorous like modern millipedes. I'm more concerned about giant arachnids, griffon flies, and giant amphibians that would basically fill the ecological niche that crocodilians do today, ambushing prey from the waters edge.

Some environmental factors to consider: it was much warmer than today, primitive jungles everywhere. So we wouldn't want to carry around too much heavy equipment and thick clothing. It was really wet. Also, higher oxygen content- that is why the bugs got so big. So while flamethrowers would be very effective for bug killing, they'd also start a massive forest fire and we'd end up roasting ourselves.

So here's my thoughts- rubber boots and water resistant pants, lots of duct tape to secure the boots and pants, T shirts or tank tops. As for weapons, we would do well with lightweight ARs and pump action shotguns. Probably 20 gauges because they'd be about two pounds lighter than 12 gauge shotguns to similar specification. Small knives will be for utility purposes, and we'd probably want to bring machetes.
>commence the primordial swamperating

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FN FAL with .308 HP everything third round .308 AP

May the flying spaghetti monester have mercy on their souls for daring to invade prehistoric Rhodesia.

Flame, napalm, thermobaric, white phosphorus munitions, etc

>strolling through cave with Mastercraft armor and guns
>suddenly surprised by centipede
>get spit on
>all armor fucking destroyed
>die and lose all my shit
Fuck these things.

Turns out that medical grade oxygen tanks are about 36% oxygen and the rest is nitrogen.
This is one of the only videos I could find in the topic, and it kinda sucks, but you'd get the gist
youtu.be/LrfHnKtKvws

Here is a question Jow Forums

If you could take any arthropod and SMASH and SLAM it with selective breeding into a piece of equipment which would you pick?

>Pistol shrimps modified to fire on tactile command (eg bending an antenna) and bred for destructive power, becoming bubble rifles
>Male rhinocerous beetles bred for size speed and ergonomics so you can stand on their backs and ride them using horns as handlebars
>Carnivorous locust swarms
>Dragonfly backpacks
>All of the possibilities of silk

Based MGEposter

Bee-bee gun. Bee-52s and Bee-2s. CBeeU-100s. MOABees. FBee-111s.

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small tactical nuclear device

>Male rhinocerous beetles bred for size speed and ergonomics so you can stand on their backs and ride them using horns as handlebars

YEET. ONWARD MY NOBLE STEED.

*bug noises*

I'd just curb-stomp that bitch