To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to include armor-piercing, concealable weapons

You won't be voting your way out of what's coming. Harden your heart.

>that comic
Fucking stupid. Where I live, the results are always more like
>70% (((Republican)))
>20% (((Democrat)))
>10% Third party
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting third party in such cases. Shows both of the other ZOG parties that they won't get your vote until they make some serious policy changes.

I'll take this but they gotta give us back real AP ammo in all those calibers

This. And pray you live somewhere white.

Ah yes. All those rapscallions with .30 carbine rugers must be brought to heel!

Thank god. I cant wait.

>Any other round determined by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to be capable of, when fired by such weapon or device, penetrating the standard body armor worn by law enforcement officers
they could pan literally anything

That looks like the stalls at Reload in Tarpon

Rep Val Butler (D) must be trying to patch up with the police union with this one. I don't suspect she actually thinks this will pass, as "concealable on your person" is rather vague compared to the rest of 5845 which has explicit lengths in inches to avoid this problem.

Also, fuck some noise of making everyone a felon who owns a FN57 or AR pistol when they can't file for a taxstamp in 18 months because of a glut of applications.

>“(6) Any other round determined by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to be capable of, when fired by such weapon or device, penetrating the standard body armor worn by law enforcement officers.”.

Wouldn't damn near any standard rifle round, when fired from a concealable firearm, penetrate body armor rated only for pistols?

>ban hunting rifle boolits, but we're not taking hunters guns!

>body armor
That's adorable.

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I'm holding out hope that the bill going through Missouri will lead to something drastic. I am not aware of anything quite like it passing before. Time will tell.

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>Introduced Feb 15
Bill is probably dead by now, but still. They know what they're doing with this shit.
>"but nobody wants to take your guns away"
Do they just throw these bills at the wall and see if they stick?

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>trying to tax .454 Casull

This would kill my favorite round. They better hope it doesn't pass.

>If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head.

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>45-55% dem socialist
>30% republican
>15-25% third party
In some places this comic to too accurate

>literally all my funs except the shotguns and I don't even have an ar15
Hell I think this bans most guns for most people. Fucking hell

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Pretty sure a shotgun could punch through armor if you're close enough, am I wrong?

and what about with slugs?

groin and lower jaw.

So Dracos and five sevens become NFA items?

None of that is actually armor piercing. May as well legislate against fire breathing dragoons.

OT question: Are there any commercial quad barrel shotguns ?

we don't all live where you do dingus

That's just an incredibly bizarre list.
.450 Bushmaster bad, .458 SOCOM good
.30 carbine bad, .327 federal good
5.7x28 FN bad, 4.6x30 HK good
5.56x45 bad, 5.45x39 good

And of course, (6) is perfect. Since there is no "standard body armor" that all officers wear, BATFags can ban anything that penetrates a shirt?
Even if they don't have the chutzpah for that, and go with, let's say, level II armor as the standard, any handgun cartridge over .380 ACP can be loaded with light/fast bullets to do it. In fact I expect .32 ACP and .380 ACP can do it too, though I haven't seen any testing of those rounds with light copper bullets.

"capable of being concealed on the person" is more-or-less copied from the definition of an AOW, and in that context it is read as "less than 26" OAL".
It's meant to appear to be targeting AR pistols (plus the FiveSeven), and IIRC Safety Harbor does sell a .50BMG AR pistol. (Though I think it's only a pistol on the basis of barrel length, but not affected by this because OAL over 26".)
And of course we're not supposed to notice that it gives ATF the ability to include practically every handgun on the market.

But most shotguns are not under 26" OAL, so not considered as concealable.

I wouldn't be surprised if they promote lowering the standards of vests police wear, if they'll even be allowed to wear any, just to get more calibers on the ban list.

i could see 5.7, 7.62tok getting banned if anything, though if the ft hood shooter didnt get the 57 banned nothing will

Center mass with rifle rounds, yiffboy.

It's the word "bushmaster." Ever since sandy vag there has been a special kind of hysteria for that word

Shoot for the gut and pelvis in close quarters

Yup. You can't tourniquet the arteries in the groinal cleft and a smashed pelvis will immobilize anyone.

Level IIIA armor should "stop" a 12-gauge lead slug, but you might still die from the trauma alone. It might not "penetrate" the vest but it might press the vest into you deep enough with enough force to disrupt something on your insides.

I'm sure some special AP slug would go right through though. Maybe solid copper or with a steel penetrator or something.

I don't see how anyone thought to let the "LAW ENFORCERS" determine the "LAW". If you gave your local PD power to determine legality, you'd be in the worst kind of martial law in a month.

>But not my department
Yes, your department too. You can justify being the states cudgel "because we only hurt the bad people" if it helps you sleep at night but I haven't met one cop without a story of just wanting to do someone in or bragging about the violence they commit.

I used to give cops benefit of the doubt, but once you're social with them, they love bringing up the violence they get to commit.

Yes, the whole idea of proposing crazy bills is to "compromise" to something more supposedly reasonable, rinse and repeat until the statists have all the power.

>Level IIIA armor should "stop" a 12-gauge lead slug, but you might still die from the trauma alone.
No you wouldn't. If your armor stops the projectile the worst you're going to get is a nasty bruise, if that.

Years ago some gun magazine did a test where they put a vest on a dummy rigged with sensors used to determine the effectiveness of baton strikes. I don't remember if they used a shotgun at all but a 45 colt, which didn't penetrate the vest, applied enough force that they determined your chest would have been pushed in between 6-8 inches...

Not if it literally crushes your ribs into your heart you won't, dumbass.

Discussing unpleasant things often helps people cope with emotional dissonance, just saying

For a handgun caliber, yes.

There's a lot more energy behind a slug, generally speaking. It'd be a NAAAAASTY bruise, and possibly some cracked ribs.

If you have some sort of additional trauma plating to cut down on that and spread the impact force over a wider, stiffer area, sure. Just soft armor, it's gonna wallop a small area pretty good.

This will also depend on the individual's physical fitness and bodily, heartiness, so to speak.

>heartiness

or, uh, hardiness, is what I was getting at I think.

Moss yesterday had some Century Choppers and some made in West Virginia out the door for $590.
Atlanta is flooded with them.
Trump would sign such a bill.
Lots of White Republicans would cross over since it is thiught of as a gangster gun and they are Blue Lives Matter tough on crime types.
It would be a good 2020 election year tactic to bring back up and piss off 2A single issue voters.
Going to SBR some of my stuff unless it is always going to be a rifle length build. CZ EVO in particular.

>Not if this unrealistic thing happens
OK let me get right back to not worrying about that.

How many years ago? What magazine? What vest? What type of dummy?

>It'd be a NAAAAASTY bruise, and possibly some cracked ribs.
I stand by my qualification:
>if that

Chopper?

THUGSPEAK for a Draco, NPap or pistol style AK variant.
Usually not applied to a pistol AR.

>voting makes a difference at this point

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This is literally the opposite of reality--right-wingers don't vote for anyone but their Jesus-figures.

Democrats vote for dumb 3rd party idiots like Jill Stein.

Used in this shootout. Draco dude was not charged since we have Stand Your Ground protection and he was the defender. NOTICE tbe fastest man in Atlanta, AKA The Red Flash.
youtu.be/sQBn-JUG0do

Its a toss up. Soft body armor, with no trauma reduction system? Your looking at broken ribs and possible internal bleeding. That's a hell of a lot of energy being dumped into your chest in a small area, even without penetration. Especially at very close ranges. Its a type of wound you would see in a car accident, no penetration but massive amounts of energy being dumped into a persons internal organs. That is very potentially lethal, just not immediately lethal. Those soft systems are meant to stop handguns, the most common type of firearms used in crime, a IIIA or II soft system isn't supposed to handle that much energy.

Just watching this gets my blood pumping

Wish he at least had a brace and dumped that robber.
At Southlake Mall right now.
Atlanta is a don't start no shit won't be no shit kind of place.
Assume everyone is armed.

>if that

No, no. DEFINITELY that. The if would be on the end of MORE damage. You're getting a REALLY bad bruise from a slug, BARE MINIMUM.

>To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986

They're not trying to tax anything. They're trying to ban rifle-caliber handguns the same way machineguns are banned. And literally anything else the ATF decides they don't like. Fuck this bullshit who's responsible for this bill?

>a IIIA or II soft system isn't supposed to handle that much energy
I know but my issue is with the statement that armor might, should it not actually fail, allow your chest to be caved in in such that it would kill you. I could see bruising and broken ribs if you're standing right in front of the shotgun but even then death seems like a stretch, especially since the slug presents a larger surface in the first place.

>Who's responsible for this bill
Jews
Who will win because they have all the power and we have nothing.

It's a diamond dozen virtue signalling bill that'll go nowhere, put your tin foil hat away and maybe focus on real shit like our current zionist overlord not getting the ATF the fuck in check.

>I love my job because if someone says some dumb shit to me I get to push their face in the ground.
>Yo I got to beat the breaks off someone today, wish I could do that all the time!
>Last week I got to run someone off the road, dumb bitch hit a tree!
>The problem today is dash cams and phones, back in the day someone ran their mouth you pulled them out and beat them

Is kicking someone in the head that's handcuffed on the ground and removing a guys shorts to taser his balls a cry for help in pig speak as well?

your point?

the mofos listed 8mm kurtz

As if theres just STG44s on the streets of detroit

But doctor, I am
honk
honk

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What if the person in the stall next to you wants to put their rifle on the stand?

Called it. The ban on AR/AK/etc "pistols" is imminent.

Jow Forums - if you still want a "pistol" or "pistol" accessory like a brace get it soon They don't have long for this world.

Is this not part of Zion Don being pro gun control and his love of the ATF?