Yuropor here. Since guns are haram but swords are halal which sword is best for self defense...

A big, POINTED stick.

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Those are some beautiful swords, but I don't think user needs to use a piece of art for self defence

It's a great defense in court .. "do you think I wanted to dirty this blade with that idiots disgusting blood!? If I had had a different way of defending myself I'd have used it!"

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On the other hand, while this thing (APOC Survival Cutlass) would likely fit the bill of OP almost perfectly... it looks a bit like it's something bought to be used for the purpose.

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While this thing, Kingston Arms Type XIV, just tells people you like history or fantasy novels.

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The Kingston Arms Katzbalger might also be good option.

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>those prices
Why would you spend so much money on a sword for self defense? Kultofathena has nice historical swords that dont cost nearly as much as the ones listed on your website

Gladius.

They are basically the European equivalent of a traditionally made Katana.
Folded steel, pattern welding, inlays etc. They are art as much as they are weapons.

Based on OP length requirements this or a wakizashi.
but even longer single handed swords can be maneuvered well indoors, it mainly depends on how the sword "wants" to be used is balanced, if thrusts feel natural you're less likely to hit things unintentionally.

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This pick up a Gladius and maybe a small shield

You want a cutlass. They are designed for cramped fighting below deck against unarmored opponents. They usually compromise on the stab for epic chopping power.
With less hand protection but more stabbing power you can also go with a "messer" which is called a knife because of a legal loophole in which a sword counted as a knife for carry so long as the hilt was not peened.
Or a short sword like a small sword. Its completely for stabbing but it really streamlines killing since stab wounds are much deadlier than the more tissue damaging slash since you vastly increase the change of poking into a vital organ.
All said and done id advise against using a sword because yurop is so cucked that in many states like germany or england if you so much as touch the home invader they can take you to court and have to prove that they were trying to kill you.

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Get a sabre, it's better than the shitty katana. You can use in one hand, and it has a good blade lenght. Also, get the more curved ones, better for closed spaces

>All said and done id advise against using a sword because yurop is so cucked that in many states like germany or england if you so much as touch the home invader they can take you to court and have to prove that they were trying to kill you.
How are their any Europeans left who haven't killed themselves just from the sheer shame of being such enormous cucks?

Its evidence that will be confiscated and possibly never returned.

Most people arent even aware of these insane laws. I found out from a guy fresh out of prison for murder but only got charged with manslaughter on a technicality even though it was premeditated.
As of yet home invasion is a rare crime but it seems as if the government were trying to incentivize it.

Unironically because life is pretty good in Europe, so the situations where these kind of insane laws come up are very infrequent.

Good advice here yuropoor. Good luck defending yourself m8

kek

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>Unbidden katana bitching
>Advocates a long cutting sword for use indoors

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10/10 home invader loadout

>yurop is so cucked that in many states like germany or england if you so much as touch the home invader they can take you to court and have to prove that they were trying to kill you.
Memes. German self defense laws are much better than british ones. There's been many cases were home invaders were killed in self defense; you're only in trouble if you go out of your way to hurt the guy.
Also, the messer legal loophole is a myth. Good point about the cutlass though.

Slightly curved cutting sword with handguard. Cutlass, messer, lot's of options. And get a shield/buckler too when you're at it.

Ah Shut up!

Based Halberdposter

The shitton of good landsknecht songs you could blast while you charge an intruder with an halberd is a big plus too

>The shitton of good landsknecht songs you could blast while you charge an intruder with an halberd is a big plus too

Obsessions with itinerant landless expendables that featured during the 30 years wars the halberd is more associated with e;ite swiss mercenary units like those that guard the pope or in the past guarded monarchs and nobility throughout Europe. The landsknecht are more synonymous with the two handed longsword which was awarded as a disciplinary measure for cowardice, theft etc and its owner dispatched wither by execution or being placed in front of the formation to conduct a suicide charge against the enemy formation to cause it to break ranks with the reward of surviving being pardoned for the original punishment. The survival rate was nil and it was broadly speaking a cruel practical joke on new recruits that could be accused took loot and did not follow 'procedure' on it being given and shared by the unit 'captain' despite having done so, thus enriching the old hands further. The savage reputation of landsknecht is largely due to their actions against undefended villages which they would slaughter every living thing in down to the animals. They were landless men, generally lacking professional training or deserters but as a whole unwanted as recruits by professional forces homosexuality was one of the main reasons that recruits would be drummed out of other units and wind up as landsknecht

>Slightly curved cutting sword with handguard. Cutlass, messer, lot's of options. And get a shield/buckler too when you're at it.

Why not just buy a machete and a riot shied and forget about it? OP neither knows how to use a sword or like most people on this thread cares whether it actually is a sword of just some piece of crappy junk?

>can also go with a "messer" which is called a knife because of a legal loophole in which a sword counted as a knife for carry so long as the hilt was not peened.

This is incorrect. Pretty much anyone was allowed carry a sword for defence in Europe with notable excepts like the British anti-Catholic laws etc. The issue was between guilds of swordmakers (which were basically part of a nations defence inuctry) and knifemakers (which were not). The swordmakers guilds did not want knifemakers making swords and this was the knifemakers way around it, A commoner could carry either. However as the swordmakers were better at making swords (duh) the long knife swords were generally inherently a shittier product. Their recent popularity is entirely due to people who know almost nothing about edged weapon history on YouTube who are sponsored to promote high profit marking garbage by people who sponsor them.Long knife swords while often featuring fullers lack any taper in either plane and are cumbersome and unwieldy compared to a properly made sword. Stopp watching bizzare retards like skallagrim (a person which a 12 year old and a years fencing instruction and a cheap coourt sword could kill easily in the same way a matador kills a half castrated bull) and buying garbage from places like Kultofathena with zero quality control or even who manufactured the item marked on the objects (I won't call them swords)

>Kultofathena
>historical swords
Pick one only.
That place sells shit to morons and teens. Its literally a clearing house for Chinese garbage. Where it gets really nasty is when it sells fakes of rarer historical weapons that are then further faked and aged by buyers and used to scam. Its probably the single biggest attack on the western heritage of arms and their preservation and study in existence.

OP firstly you can get a shotgun or a 22 in the UK easily if you want one. Secondly do your nation a favour and buy a real British enfield yagatan bayonet, genuine troopers model 1796 or if on a budget a genuine 1897 pattern sword. Not alone are they all better weapons made for combat, the 1897 pattern is arguably better than the originals of all of the mall ninja, chinesium crap on this thread. Never give Kultofathena or any of their suppliers a cent if you give a shit about preserving the heritage of European and western arms. Buy your own nations issued weapons. In the case of 1897 British blades they are readily available at auction for 100 pounds You will also be preserving yourself from the utter garbage they mostly sell.

That's not a cutlass that's a briquet a common side arms for infantry in the 18th and the first half of the 19th century and synonymous with French infantry during the Napoleonic wars. Of course its a fake in your picture, sold at more than the real thing and turning the whole, both real and fake into a giant garbage pile of artificially devalued and historical items and chineseium shit. You don't know the difference between it and a cutlass and neither does
And you don't give a fuck. As far as your knowledge of edged weapons does its all the same and you don't; give a fuck about cunts destroying the heritage of European arms and civil war arms with this Chinese crap because you don't even know you can get a real genuine serviceable antique edged weapon for less than you buy this crap for. It absolutely is crap to, from centre of percussion to distal taper, tempering, balance its garbage, but just useful enough to scammers to distress and place fake marking on to con people with. I hope the owners of Kultofathena die of a particularly painful cancer soon. They have done more harm to historic edged weaponry than every weapon banning retard in every government in the west.

A sword is just a big knife. Cut, slash and stab your opponent. It's not fucking rocket science.

He wants a sword, he gets a sword. And for what it's worth, I think a hand guard might be worth it even with a shield. Riot shields are a nice idea though.

A briquet is very similar to a cutlass. Stop being autistic.

>A sword is just a big knife. Cut, slash and stab your opponent. It's not fucking rocket science.

except its not, a knife has completely different composition to a sword. Knives would break if they were simply made longer. Swords do not. Neither does distal taper or centre of percussion matter much in a knife because its a short stiff item made of ridged composition completely unlike a good sword which is bade of a steel with 'spring' in it and does not shatter or bend. Then again if you knew anything about swords you would never have typed your dumbass post in the first place.

Its not rocket science but when e.g the British army issued swords and cutlasses for combat on foot at sea and on hourse they carefully spend a long tie drilling people on how to use them so they could fuck up people like you that think all you have to do is pick one up and wave it around.
>It's not fucking rocket science.
That's of course ignoring the pinnacle of swords for self defence which were smallswords and that is where the art of fencing came from. You know the thing you have to be taught, practise and study.

>A briquet is very similar to a cutlass. Stop being autistic.

Except its not at all. A briquet was used by infantry and has a completely different guard to a true cutlass. They don't even look the same. If you know literally nothing about the subject why comment? Its like saying an Ar-15 is the same a brown bess because they are both long gun things.

Calm the fuck down, you autist. My point was that OP might not have any experience but unless the intruder happens to be a master swordsman there's no fucking need to overthink thing. Just position the sharp part of the blade against the intruder and pretend you're chopping carrots or something.

t. got killed by a zaphander in dark souls too many times

> (You)Calm the fuck down, you autist. My point was that OP might not have any experience but unless the intruder happens to be a master swordsman there's no fucking need to overthink thing. Just position the sharp part of the blade against the intruder and pretend you're chopping carrots or something.

So he would be akin to some untrained nigger in rwanda with a machete? What's the point in buying a sword if he wants a machete to wave around because his brain has fried from reading social breakdown crap on pol?

>t. got killed by a zaphander in dark souls too many times

Nah they are just a sign of youtube retardation, no harm in explaining the actual history.

Just having a giggle mate. Cheers

>Just position the sharp part of the blade against the intruder and pretend you're chopping carrots or something.

Sounds like a good way to end up rolling around on the floor covered with blood with some bleeding engaged criminal who has already been cut several times while on remand for shoplifting trying to return your machete to you anally. Its always a good idea to actually learn how to use any given weapon. See how far you get with a gun if you never bother to learn how to load or aim it

Does Kultofathena sell battle ready swords, yes or no? historical accuracy doesnt matter for self defense

>Muh guard is brass instead of steel

>Does Kultofathena sell battle ready swords, yes or no? historical accuracy doesnt matter for self defense

No. For the simple reason that the word 'battleready' means absolutely nothing. The stuff sold there is not even MARKED by the people who made it let alone tested to any standard. Would you like to point me to the testing process for 'battleready' or who does the testog? How are they marked when they pass this testing? Or have you just been conned by deceptive advertising pushing chinesium crap?

>>Muh guard is brass instead of steel
A cutlass has a bowl guard that covers the hand. Please go and look one up if you thing a briquet looks in any way similar. Briquet were also not primarily weapons (the bayonet was the secondary weapon behind the musket) but camp tools unlike cutlasses which were primarily weapons

kultofathena.com/koa_sword_blog_what_is_battle_ready.asp

I dont know man seems pretty clear and straightforward. They also have a youtube channel were they test their shit

Yes but you have to search carefully and can't trust labels, the guy you're talking to just has a hateboner for them, it's kind of his shtick.

O they have a youtube channel. That's ok then. No its not clear and straightforward. They product is not tested or made to any standard and not even marked by the manufacturer let alone marked as having passed any testing. Why are you shilling this clearing house for shit anyway?

>the guy you're talking to just has a hateboner for them

sure do, fucking cancer

Yeah and you can think that, it's your purview, but I don't think it's particularly helpful since they actually do sell plenty of quality items. You're letting the fact that plebs go there and buy Deepeeka thinking it's real weaponry cloud your judgment.

>Kultofathena
It just sells what's on the market from cheap stuff from india (windlass) to stuff from a US CNC mill designed by a swede based on sacred geometry (Albion).

A great advantage of the shop is that they often list both the blade thickness close to the tip and at the base, which is the most valuable stat you can get to determine if a sword will feel lake a baseball-bat or crowbar.
If you take the measurements of an Albion model and compare them to the ones of a cheaper manufacturer, and they are close, you're likely to get an inexpensive sword that handles well.

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>And it has a minutely different shape too

dont know how nobody has posted this yet

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>Yeah and you can think that, it's your purview, but I don't think it's particularly helpful since they actually do sell plenty of quality items. You're letting the fact that plebs go there and buy Deepeeka thinking it's real weaponry cloud your judgment.

I'M LETTING THE FACT THAT THEY ARE A FRONT FOR SHIT WITH FORGED MARKINGS MADE TO ZERO QUALITY CONTROL IN FUCKING INDIA PRIMARILY USED AS FAKE UP INSTUMENTS OF FRAUD 'CLOUD MY JUGDEMENT' AND SELLING 'BATTLEREADY' CHINESEIUM TO DUMB TEENS SO THEY CAN GET A SHARD OF METAL IN THEIR FACE?

t. Valuer of antique arms sick of seeing peoples disappointment when they realise they have been sold this garbage that has been distressed a bit and auctioned off at estate auctions, and if its not basically a criminal facilitator why are the objects not marked by the maker but covered in faked up period markings?

They are absolute cancer in every way. In fact if you want to see how bad a cancer they are try searching for any antiqye sword on google images, the first results are this fake chinesium shit from them. They have harmed massively the collecting and study of antique weapons and European and American arms heritage and sell 90% complete garbage made in china or india and massive margins which they then pump into shitting their crap everywhere with retard front men like skallagrim. They are a fucking abomination and it won't be a day to soon before they get sued into oblivion by some spolit brats parents for selling a 'battleready' sword with a fake Britisg proof test mark because spoilt brat got a chunk of metal in its face/legs when their chinesium 'balleready'[ crap shatters when it is used to hit a plank. I fucking hate that site and company for very very good and clear reasons and if you are defending them, you hate antique swords, western heritage of arms, quality and edged weapons.

Addendum
There is a reasonable case for them being prosecuted for selling instruments of fraud.

Do you hate Amazon or eBay this much? Because this shit happens on literally every digital storefront. I agree that it sucks but even if they straight up did not exist people would still fall for the same dumb scams because they don't into research and the disreputable manufacturers are the ones pushing this garbage and they'll find a way to get it out there.

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>They are absolute cancer in every way. In fact if you want to see how bad a cancer they are try searching for any antique sword on google images, the first results are this fake chinesium shit from them

They don't sell antique swords......

This. Gladius is best choice

kultofathena = utter faggotry

'swordbuyersguide' is one of their fake front sites. They are well known for attacking the various sword forums that have been about over the years while pushing their crap, they shill on here regularly. Buyers beware.

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People absolutely do sell "antique" swords on eBay and Amazon, you can also find the real deal although more on the former and even then you'd damn well better know what you're looking for.

>People absolutely do sell "antique" swords on eBay and Amazon, you can also find the real deal although more on the former and even then you'd damn well better know what you're looking f

nearly all the swords on ebay are fakes

>nearly all the swords on ebay are fakes

thanks china, india and >kultofathena

Yeah that's why I expended the effort to put quotation marks around the word antique.

How about us just being happy that the average guy no longer thinks a sharpened metal bar with welded on tang and "made in Toledo" written on it is an accurate representation of a sword.
Even low priced chinesium is a great step up in authenticity to what was considered a "sword" two decades ago.
Antiques are a different story, but they are also a different market, if you want to cut some tatami with a migration era weapon, sharpening a precious piece of rust resembling a flattened rotten carrot isn't really an option.
Quality of replicas is increasing noticeably at a steady rate as customers get more educated on the subject, and while the girlfriend pimping german furry pretending to be Norwegian is revolting, his audience will hopefully move on to better sources of information as it gets out of primary school.
In this context cult of Athena is simply a retailer engaging into efficient marketing within a niche market with customers ranging from collectors of antiques over hema parishioners to 10 year olds begging their parents to get a "real" sword to play with.

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>cult of Athena
>kultofathena = utter faggotry
>they shill on here regularly. Buyers beware.

A Gladius.

>customers ranging from collectors of antiques
o collector of antiques would deliberately buy anything from cult of Athena unless it was to study what fraudulent scamming fakes are made from these days

Nice try, Schlomo.

I was referring to the niche market, not the retailer engaging in business within this market.
To be sure, can we establish that you have gasped the concept of selling a replica, as a replica, or do you believe that replica are sold in a fashion giving the impression of selling antiques?

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All you'll ever do with it is unpack it when it arrives, go "dude, sword", and then put it in a corner to collect dust with all the other crap you've got. So just get the cheapest wallhanger you can find.

Ave centurion!

The only thing we can establish is that that guy isn't getting the psychiatric care he needs.

KEK

To add fuel to the fire, I don't see anything wrong of buying this:
christies.com/lotfinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4953368
in combination with this:
kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANV4
... apart from the manufacturer getting less money than when buying the replica directly from the factory.

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Albion swords
Also get compound bow

At that kind of money I'd probably get some guy in eastern Europe to make replica of the specific antique (though as-new) instead, but that's quite besides the point you're trying to make.

Stop shilling your gay fake sword site.

All you nerds are gushing over cheap-ass katanas and rapiers and yet I haven't heard a single mention of shields yet.
@OP: Get a gladius and shield, get a tomahawk and shield, get a mace and shield, fuck get a club and shield and you're still better off than you would be with just a sword.
Doesn't even matter what type of shield either; wooden, steel, buckler, hell even get one of those replica Captain America shields for maximum memeage.

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A warhammer is more ideal

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if you want to use a historical sword buy a a Sparta,or Gladius. failing that a saber or an arming sword or some thing one handed,or you can buy a cheap machete for a tenth of the price ,and since machetes are actually expected to be used more likely than not it wont be just a sharpened hunk of stainless steel like 90%of replicas.

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THATS A BEC DE CORBIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

get a wood stick from the hardware store and paracord tie a kitchen knife to the end
great job you have the best self defense weapon other than a gun

>buy a cheap machete for a tenth of the price ,and since machetes are actually expected to be used more likely than not it wont be just a sharpened hunk of stainless steel like 90%of replicas.
youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

Since this is the de facto knife thread, it's Cold Steel stuff made in India any good?

If I were american, where might I find a functional (carbon steel, sharpened) pattern 1897 inf. sword for not insane prices? Absolute kino in my opinion.

/thread

agreed

The nicest machete you can afford.

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dont know how nobody has posted this yet

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>Can't cut grass for shit
LMAO all anyone ever does when posting guns in blade threads is make themselves look retarded.

Here's mine.
[spoiler]Honestly just bought it because i'm a dishonored fan.[/spoiler]

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