Is the Makarov reliable and a good pistol? I like the compact size

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It goes bang when you pull the trigger, shoots where you point it abs has a reasonable amount of good loads available. It's a good gun, but there are better for the same price.

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yes and yes. it was my first CC. ive moved on to others, but the mak holds a special place in my heart.

Why do people on Jow Forums shill this meme weapon? Why not just get a sub compact 9x19? Cheaper ammo, more power, not autistic?

I got my mak for 150 burger vouchers, so it's an excellent poorfag gun. It's also heavy enough to double as a club when you're out of ammo.

It also makes a cool bottle opener.

How much of a Mak's reliability has to do with its construction compared to just how low-pressure 9x18 Mak is?

shot mine for the first time last saturday. the sights could be better but other than that it's fucking awesome.

I love the mak, got the original baikal one in 4.5mm myself (uroop), but I hate the fucking mag release.
Even the Browning hi power has a better one.

>It's the most reliable pistol ever created. It's simplicity is amazing. So yeah, it's good. Lots of anons on here CC them and many have been carrying them for over a decade.

I carry mine sometimes. I absolutely hate the fact I can't carry cocked and locked due to the decocker built into the safety but that's just my inner fudd screeching. Aliengear makes a decent holster for them.

unironically just get a Star BM

>reliable
Yes
>good
Debatable

The tricky part is buying a good one; I've seen some less than stellar reviews from Classic; seems you're rolling the dice even with their "hand-pick selection." But if you can get one that isn't shit, I agree. It's basically a 9mm 1911, and those carry pretty well.

It depends on the condition you get it in. I've seen reliable ones, ones that choke on cheap ammo, and ones that outright fail because the parts are worn out. I don't know how difficult it is to get replacement parts for those things. It's also in a dumb caliber. Carrying one as a dedicated EDC pistol is not a good decision. Reaching that point is a lot of bad decisions wrapped up into one big shitty set of purchases. If you can't afford the basic bitch LC9, and box of jhp's, and a sticky holster then it's time to rethink your finances.

>Debatable

I liked mine so much I bought a thousand rounds for it at once. Shitty steel-cased Wolf, yes, but it runs it like a champ. It shoots quite nicely and the trigger isn't half-bad in single-action. It's a 5.5 pound pull on my Bulgarian mak, according to my trigger scale, but it breaks decently - there's some free-travel take-up, and a little mushiness once you're up against the sear, but - at least with my trigger press - it breaks right when I want it to and it feels quite prompt. And this is coming from someone who usually carries a 1911 "cuz muh SAO advantage" so you know where I'm coming from with this. It's not bad.

The combination of simple blowback and a full steel frame/slide mean it's accurate as fuck; blowback is more accurate and the weight really handles the recoil well (9x19 mak is like a hot-loaded .380.) It's a big reason I bought the gun; I like heavier guns in general (lol 1911) in part due to the recoil mitigation.

Size-wise it really is a compact gun, not a subcompact mouse gun, but it's no 1911 either. Fits nicely in the hand even with the stock grips (I got the black ones with the ergo thumb ridge on the left) and I generally just love the shit out of it.

Sights are the one negative; they're just low-profile black ones - without three-dot they're useless at night. However, low-profile is often a boon on a carry gun. Rear sights are dovetailed in on my Bulgie mak (I dunno if other makes are any different) but the front sight is integral to the top slide. Aftermarket is available, but in this case I'd just do some research and go after it with two different colors of paint pen. Skip the glow in the dark shit, you just need something fluorescent if possible and bright and durable is mandatory; it just has to catch more light at night, like basic-bitch 3-dot.

I'll tell you a bit more about care and feeding in a sec.

>It depends on the condition you get it in. I've seen reliable ones, ones that choke on cheap ammo, and ones that outright fail because the parts are worn out. I don't know how difficult it is to get replacement parts for those things. It's also in a dumb caliber.

Got yer back bruh midwayusa.com/product/1001574198/hornady-critical-defense-ammunition-9x18mm-9mm-makarov-95-grain-flex-tip-expanding-box-of-25

Hornady's offering a Critical Defense load for Mak now and apparently it actually works (as always some geek on youtube has already done a gel test if you want to see for yourself.) That much is solved, at least.

Spare parts is a whole 'nother matter; spares for any Eastern Bloc milsup can be tricky to source. I've found a few online stores that do sell it, but at least one of them is in Russia proper, and given that we're gonna be in Sanction City for the forseeable future that makes purchasing international from them iffy. On the flip side the Mak was produced in insane numbers in a shitfuckton of Eastern Bloc countries that are no longer behind the Curtain, like Bulgaria et al, so there's a huge aftermarket in these guns and if you look around a bit, you SHOULD be able to source stuff.

I've been looking into this in the hopes that I could buy a spare safety and modify it to disable the damn decocker feature, which'd remove the only thing I don't like about this gun outside of the euro style mag release.

As for quality you can still get them; shortly after I bought mine a new shipment arrived in the 'States that was... BRAND NEW, UNISSUED. The one I got is pretty nice but that was still bitch timing.

>Carrying one as a dedicated EDC pistol is not a good decision.

Maybe if you're a knuckle-dragging retard who can't wipe their own ass. It IS more work and risk though, that is incontestable. Not everyone wants to deal with that. It's a nicer gun than an LC9, for sure.

Unfortunately also fairly rare.

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How homosexual exactly are you?

I always count how many posts it takes to get to this comment

They were when you can get a Mak and a can of ammo for $80. Now you have 9 mils the same size with the same or larger capacities for less than Bulgy Wulgy. They were the best CC option for the cost in the 90's and early 00's, but as time and cost drive them up, there are much better options for the same cost or cheaper.

Other stuff about Maks:

* It's hard to find holsters but a few people do make them; Alien Gear offers kydex sheaths for them and their holsters are actually...pretty good. Mine works fine, and has been recc'd to me by two people who know what they're doing and have gone downrange for a living. Just read the fucking manual if you buy one and apply that damn blue loc-tite to the set screws like it tells you or you'll regret it. Once that's done they need no more attention.

* Magazines used to be hard to find at sane prices; but after some searching I found some for 20~ish bucks and bought five. Apparently that's not an issue now because gunmagwarehouse stocks factory Bulgarian mags for 23.99. (For reference, quality levels of Mak pistols are generally tiered as East German > Bulgarian > Russian, but even the worst ones aren't bad; it's usually fit and finish, and fit isn't super critical on any slav design.)

* Aftermarket grips are also available; the grip is all one big plastic piece so it's easy to replace. Maks are pretty popular milsup guns so there's a surprisingly high amount of aftermarket love for it.

* You can feed these things steel-cased Wolf ammo and not give a fuck - at least my Bulgie mak in good internal condition. has a different opinion and has seen a few more than I have, so.

* Price - I got mine for $350ish, not counting the FFL transfer fees. That might have changed due to their popularity and the ever-fluctuating supply and demand of milsup guns. There seems no shortage of old police carry pistols in Euroland to import, however; witness the shipment of BRAND-NEW UNISSUED ones that came in not long ago. (It hurts, lads, it still hurts.)

* Info - there's a shitload of information on the net about Makarovs and all their milsup incarnations, how to read markings, check for quality, etc. If you have a well-stocked LGS with a few you can check, then you'll have no surprises.

>dick grips

>They were when you can get a Mak and a can of ammo for $80. Now you have 9 mils the same size with the same or larger capacities for less than Bulgy Wulgy. They were the best CC option for the cost in the 90's and early 00's, but as time and cost drive them up, there are much better options for the same cost or cheaper.
>If you can't afford the basic bitch LC9, and box of jhp's, and a sticky holster then it's time to rethink your finances.

With all that said, these guys still have a point. Personally, I love my Mak. It's a compact little gun that's easy to carry but still has that all-steel weight and heft so it's a brisk, accurate little popgun that can really rip out the rounds and land them on the bulls-eye. Tremendous fun to shoot. The decocker and consequent double-action first-shot drive me fucking NUTS as a 1911 geek but it's something you simply have to train for, and if you CC you'll be practicing your draw from concealment anyway (or damn well should) and you can buy some snap-caps and incorporate dry-fire double-action into that to make sure you get used to that pull.

BUT, if what you're really after is the cheapest reliable CC gun you can trust your life to, there's plenty of options on the market now that are better. I would not call them better guns, just in general shootability and enjoyment - the LC9 comes to mind - but CCW doesn't really require that, either; just concealability, reliability, and a bullet that penetrates enough, with enough of them in the mag. If your primary concern right now is self-defense and you're not a gun geek like me who likes milsup and is happy to spend too much time googling and reading up about them, you go straight for those bargain options and buy that, first, and a good holster. The Maks will still be around later when you've got more dosh; they don't seem to be drying up anytime soon.

Who the hell press checks?

Nice to see someone taking their gun out for a walk once in a while

Does anyone make a quality makarov shoulder holster?

Scuse me, big fuck dick coming through.

Star bm

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Reliable? Yes.
Good? It was, for 1950s. Nowdays - not sure.
Me was in VDV in 80s. Once on night jumps I lost my PM. Me was a demo specialist, so no Suchka's for us, but PMs + 60lbs backpack bitch RYa-6 demo charge. Just after opening at 5000m, I saw my PM flying away tumbling in moonlight, while I was messing with the red string ( disabling reserve chute so it wont open at 1000m). Next morn, reported loss to CO, and was given two days to find the PM. Otherwise would go to guba.
I sort of memorized where it went into. Started searching without much hope, but stumbled upon one of the grips right away. Then sifted through the ground all around, and within an hour I had it all except the other grip! PM landed onto old unpaved field road, so it didnt sink completly into the ground, but at the same time it wasnt damaged much.
Brought it back to oruzheika. My zemelya got me an extra grip to replace the missing one, and thats how I got off the hook. I don't even want to think how would it turned out if I didnt find the PM. But it did survive falling from 5000m and was functioning after cleaning, as I was shooting that specific PM later. Must be a lucky one.

midwayusa.com/product/361794/geco-ammunition-9mm-makarov-95-grain-full-metal-jacket-box-of-50

Anyone shoot any of this? I've generally had good luck with geco, and this is one of the best deals I've seen for non-steel cased mak food.

That's pretty neat. I've seen a Glock thrown out of a light aircraft and survive, but it was in rather boggy ground. A full steel frame hitting a compacted dirt road from 5,000 meters is a whole new ball game.

Just be glad you didn't drop a Sig P320 from that high

Thank you for the post, my Russian friend. What is "guba"?

Yes, very reliable. MAC even has videos showing how reliable they are. This old pistol is better than most budget pistols in the same price range.

The Makarov was not meant to be a battle pistol or a cc gun. An old DDR Stasi agent told me the Makarov was meant to kill subordinates period.

Is it needed to change its spring to increase reliability ? I guess that cheap springs made in the soviet union 60 years ago will loose some of their tension over time.

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What? They are like 300 bucks for a Bulgarian one. Maybe if you are looking for a Chinese or Russian one then yes they are a little rarer.

Top bait.
Makarovs are excellent. I stopped bringing mine to range days because my friends kept shooting all my ammo. They can't keep their hands off it.

Yah that's probably the truth. I've shot mine to 50 yards before though, so it wouldn't be completely useless as a battlefield backup gun.

im so glad you pointed this out.

Just look down the barrel. Feel free to further check if a round if chambered by pulling the trigger while you're there.
When you pull the slide halfway back to check if a round is chambered. Modern guns, like the USP, don't need this because they have an indicator, and you can see the shell slightly from the slide gap.

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Star magazines are crazy expensive.

Depending on the condition Makarov's can be great to ok pistols.
Mine was nib never fired so it's quite nice and has never malfunctioned after over 1k rounds through it.
If you are looking to use a Mak for concealed carry I would advise against it. I cc'd mine for a while but got tired of the weight and all the hard edges rubbing up against me. Now I carry a sub-compact glock and I find it much more comfortable.

Old galco for a 1911. Fits pretty nicely though.

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you were just showing it off, right? Surely you don't actually carry cocked?

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bought grey-shop.ru/Universal-Pouches/Holster/PM-holster-stich-profi as a holster. Its good for 30$ but thats the best I can say about it.

OTW only? Is that button on the front a lock?
If so, why'd you go with that over something like the EFA2K?

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really wish i spent an extra 50 bucks a lil while ago and got a real makarov instead of a p64.

>*wheezes*
>privyet, tuh...tuh...tovarish.
>*adjusts spectacles*
>be of need today? or i go back to bed

Perfect for activities!

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I...can't not see it now.
blyat

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>2 grips
What do you mean by this?
Calling BS.

I had to change the hammer spring to fix light primer strikes.
Got a german new old stock out of ebay for 12 bucks.
DA has a heavier pull now, but thats expected. Now its a very reliable gun.

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great CC handgun, a little heavy but great. I just put mine away from carrying the last 3 years and now carry a full size .45 appendices style. They are dropping off invaders all over the country. Im not taking any chances!

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isnt it just a shitty soviet ripoff of a walther pp?

With less parts.