What does Jow Forums think of the Socialist Rifle Association? Since this board is generally pretty far to the right...

What does Jow Forums think of the Socialist Rifle Association? Since this board is generally pretty far to the right, do you dislike the idea of the left trying to arm themselves? Do you admire them for exercising their 2a rights despite disagreeing politically? Is it just a fed honeypot?
As somebody economically very far left I'm curious because I wish more genuine leftist groups could form to shake off the retarded tumblr liberal identity politics people associate me with when I say I'm leftist, but I feel like if I actually got into contact with these people they'd still end up being the tranny retards I wanted to avoid.

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>Socialist Rifle Association
Cringe and bluepilled.

I'll admit myself I only found out about them today and don't know much about them yet. I also probably shouldn't expect much more from this thread than helicopter jokes.
Quality discourse, friend

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I generally admire people willing to exercise their rights, however from what I've seen of the SRA they're basically the John Brown Rifle Club 2.0, AKA "we are so deluded or mentally ill we genuinely believe there is some major orchestrated non-government conspiracy to kill me, specifically, so I need to arm myself to protect myself from RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS"

I have witnessed 1 in-person gathering of the SRA and they hadn't been around each other for 30 fucking seconds before they started openly discussing ways to assassinate multiple politicians. Fortunately, all of the ideas were insane or retarded, sometimes both, with a 0% chance of even being attempted much less successful (one had actually suggested hijacking the ISS and crashing it into the White House).

Leftists are parasites. the only reason they want to arm themselves is in order to stamp out any opposition to their regime so they can further increase the control of government with little to no opposition. Once in power they gladly hand over their arms, believing the state will take care of everything now that it's "on their side". They have no interest in self defense, hunting, overthrowing tyranny, etc; only power tripping and furthering their goals of domination. It's a power trip for them and nothing else.
The only thing more disingenuous than a leftist with a gun is a man at a feminist rally.

They’re only ever on Twitter taking pics of their baby’s first Marxist doctrine books & old Slavaboo rifles. At best, there was like 1 guy with a stock S&W Magpul MOE, and the odds of someone owning a firearm & supporting the Second Amendment sounds to me like an edgy teen who’ll eventually outgrow his cringey political system as he grows older & disillusioned like most of us do. By all means, let them exercise their rights insofar as I’m concerned because the gun-grabber politicians are mostly backed by neoliberal think tanks with hysterical suburban women + Boomers as their foot soldiers/front men. Having a faction within the radical left that advocates for firearm ownership doesn’t hurt the rest of the gun owning community & if anything helps accelerate a better coalition of the splintered leftist groups vying for power.

> helicopters
thats what they deserve tho, socialism is state enforced poverty.

Socialist Rifle association? SOCIALIST?
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>I wish more genuine leftist groups could form to shake off the retarded tumblr liberal identity politics
That's all they have, though. It's what they are. You've aligned yourself with a bunch of literal morons that want nothing more than to disarm you.

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Guess that sounds like exactly what I suspected then. That's pretty disappointing.
There are retards on every side of the political spectrum user, and if you don't know who the ones on yours are, it's because you're one of them.
Rojava is in its infancy but with any luck may end up being one of the most successful counterexamples to your strawman. I was in a thread here a week or two ago with a few westerners who went to fight for them in the YPG that sounded like interesting guys.

Until these socialists disavow the insane tranny gun grabbing faggots calling themselves socialist and anarchists then I’m gonna have to pass

>t. Anarchist

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>commie is back shilling his fed honey pot again

There was a century of actual leftist political movements that didn't involve transgender bathrooms, user, even in America. Look up Eugene V. Debs, one of the few truly honest presidential candidates I would've voted for happily.
>You've aligned yourself
All I've done is read books on theory and history, I'm not in any of these organizations because I'm a straight white guy and they're all full of dumbasses that would hate me for that.
Every attempt at a communist regime has been coopted by authoritarian shitheads, so I'm far more on the ancom side, and still see serious drawbacks to it. You should go to /lit/ and read up on the origin of modern political ideologies though - everyone should. What do you believe in?

That muzzle on his toes makes me uneasy.

Well said. Those people are absolutely not stable. Fortunately all these orgs are massive honeypots

>There was a century of actual leftist political movements that didn't involve transgender bathrooms, user, even in America.

But thats what it became. Leftism is degenerate and destructive at its core.

If a leftist candidate came out and did that he would earn my vote, but neither of us would ever hear his name because no media has a vested interest in selling us a candidate like that. Your options are red neocon liberal that is ambivalent about gay niggers and blue neocon liberal that pretends to love gay niggers.
How is asking for opinions and admitting the group is probably full of idiots shilling at all

Yep, that's why the USSR and red China are paragons of personal firearm ownership. Because commie leaders never lie, twist words, or say one thing and do the other.

>How is asking for opinions and admitting the group is probably full of idiots shilling at all

Because you posted this same shit a couple if days ago.

SRA member here. They offer sponsorships to get USCCA instructor certs and Red Cross certs. I'm considering doing this. Last week I taught a dozen or so commie noguns how to shoot some of my .22 rifles. AMA.

Dumb hypocritical commies who want to disarm their political opponents so they can gulag them, just like all the other tankies on twitter.
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Still better than the right-wing authoritarian sellout shitheels that are the NRA.

some of the gats we shot

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And conservatism became boomer die-for-Israel suck-off-your-local-jahb-creator Trump worship. All acceptable political ideology in America today is insane horseshit, if you take yourself out of the media cycle for a while and read about how it all came to be this way you can understand this for yourself. I admire the goals of old-fashioned leftism far more than the goals of the old-fashioned right wing or modern liberalism, so I consider myself a leftist even if implementation of any of my ideas is wildly unrealistic in my country.
No, I didn't. Jow Forums is one of my less-frequented boards, if this thread was up a few days ago I haven't been here since then and didn't make it.
Twitter is a cesspool that should be avoided at all costs by everyone.
Are you a fed

That's what I said.

some of the gats we'll shoot when they're a bit more experienced (although we already shot that .22 on the bottom)

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80% of the local NRA guys are fudds and bootlickers. I would love to see them fight a bunch of limp wristed socialists. Anything to distract everyone from more gun control.

i'm not a fed. i am, however, a straight-white-cismale from a rural exurb. i dress and look like any standard midwestern twenty-something - boots, dickies, crew neck tshirt, and a flannel. at a surface level, i'm indistinguishable from any typical gun owner.

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kill commies

Socialists in the USA are almost never workers. They’re usually upper middle class college students or college graduates.
The workers of the USA never accepted socialism and that’s why the left had to shift to racial/identity grievance politics.

>non-government conspiracy to kill me, specifically, so I need to arm myself to protect myself

see:

The poors are at it again

> Leftist gun clubs
I wouldn't get your hopes up. End game for them, their handing over their weapons once their people are in charge.

For them, it's just a temporary tool that's far too dangerous to have in normal people's hands when the utopia hits.

Socialists would put me up against a wall and shoot me before the end of their first week in power.

Ergo, socialists need to be shot before they get into power.

This, go talk to any actual "working-class" american, stereotypically constriction, factory, warehouse, and logistics personnel

Almost all of them are right leaning

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I'm something approaching a socialist but would absolutely not join such an organization. At best it's a way to get yourself pulled onto a database or watch list, at worst you become the first casualties in some mythical SHTF scenario. Make no mistake about the ability of Right militias to completely wipe out any similar group on the left (if they even exist). Liberals will live and die by thier ability to operate through existing mechanisms of the state and nothing else (which is working so far).
Black and latino gangs dont count.

I'm working class. I sometimes buy gold. what about those flyers makes you think the NRA doesn't support working class gun owners? Those flyers specifically. I'm not here to argue any other instance of NRA stupidity. I just want to know why you dont think the working class can buy gold so strongly that when the NRA shills for a gold seller that contraindicates their support for working class gun owners.

What the fuck....

talk to them about socialism without using the "s" word. i've done this with comrades in logistics, manufacturing, landscaping, etc and 80% of them already understand the principals of socialism. once you break out the "s" word though, the decades of propaganda light up in their brain, and only 20% or so are willing to keep talking with me in good faith.

what about being middle class or having a degree prevents someone from being a worker?
>workers of the USA never accepted socialism
tell that to the hundreds of miners killed in gunfights with pinkertons and the feds

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If you read early 20th century authors like John Dos Passos, you can see that this wasn't always true. The USA Trilogy is a good glimpse into the fact that they did exist, and they were out there, but pressures from the world wars and the media stamped them out.
Henry George, for example, wasn't a typical Marxist but had a fairly left-wing ideology that was incredibly popular among the working class in the late 1800s. There were entire groups of people who got so into his book Progress and Poverty that they abandoned their lives to go larp about it in communes, including Leo Tolstoy. There are other examples too. Why do you think labor agitation was such a big threat that the Pinkertons needed to exist?
These aspects of history aren't taught to Americans, and anyone bringing them up is derided as an extremist. Why do you think that is?

what about culture masks?

leftism is inherently antigun. any dumbass quote from hungry santa is just some shit about how guns are a tool of duh rehvolutiun! The moment the power structure is overthrown you'd be disarmed by commissar jamal and be put to slave labor in a field or executed for not being diverse enough. anyone who dosent see through this paper thin ruse is a brainlet beyond saving and deserves whatever grim fate awaits them.

This. Socialists in the US can't even get behind stopping immigration, something that literally harms the poorest of American workers for no reason other than the fact that they have decided it was racist or some shit. I went to school right around when 'They took our jerbs' was the funny joke of the week, but since I worked construction and grew up in an area with a lot of farms I got to see firsthand how poor whites and blacks were having their manual labor job hauling shit on a construction site or picking oranges given to an illegal they were able to pay less and cut loose the moment anything happened at all, but I'm supposed to listen to a bunch of Bougie cunts just make a joke about it? Fuck socialists.

The last useful thing you retards did was help set up the unions, which you then immediately torpedoed because Catholics were also getting involved in the unions and the only thing you hate more than rich people is poor people with religious convictions.

not sure what you're talking about desu

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Sure, but thats because there are Tennants of socialism (just like there are tennants of capitalism, communism, dictatorships.....) that just sound like good ideas until they run into the problems of actually implementing them and how those principles work together

Thats how any philosophy gets any traction

They used the promise of communism for their own gains.
Just the bourgeoisie in disguise.

you need to actually read marx to post here. sorry

American workers rejected socialism and communism in the 20s/30s after the Soviet Union showed what the workers paradise was all about. You can romanticize your lost credibility of the pre Soviet era all you want but you’re exactly the same as modern day fascists trying to explain why the third positionism of the Reich was good for the common man.

The “working class” and “middle class “ are two distinct separate groups and you clearly don’t even understand Marxist dialectic if you don’t understand that.

thats what communism is retard

Smells like braaapposting in here.

communist history in america is literally just a bunch or retards bombing everyone a thousand times in the 20's. then the wobblie being gay niggers and trying to collapse the US economy and thus kill millions of people though genral strikes, and then a bunch of low testosterone halfbaked intellectuals in the 70's trying to bomb people thousands of times again but calling ahead of time.

and there was that one guy who ran as a commiefag who ran for president every year forever but never got any votes, got sedition acted and then died a gay annoying troglodyte

>Socialist rifle association
Why yes, I fucking love niggers and their penises.

>Anarchist
the first people who get executed by communists are their allied anarchist rubes.

>check em
thats standard practice when shooting clays, but usually you have the gun broken open.

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No one will disavow anarchist gungrabber trannies faster than libertarian guntotin trannies. The media doesn't want to show the small number of normal trannies who just wanna live their lives, this transtrender bullshit is all they talk about all day long. The only people from any side of any issue that get airtime now are loud crazy fuckers.

Nah cunt, literally every single man, woman, and child learned their lesson on our side when the government let everyone know that lighting kids on fire is an acceptable solution for them peacefully living while thinking incorrectly, and they learned their lesson when they lost a daycare full of kids their effort. Now they only run entrapment rings. If you're dumb enough to listen when someone says "Heya there fellow revolutionary, let's go camping!", you deserve the anal fissures you've got coming your way

Liberals are the worst. Honestly.

t. fellow anarchist.

I know that’s why I hate Communists too

I’m almost convinced this SJW bullshit is some kind of neoliberal plot to delegitimize any kind of real leftists

oh no no no, the smallest shit I've taken this week is better armed than you cunts. Do you know how many .22 it takes to cut through a level IV?

I have no problem with them exercising their right to keep and bear arms. A bit ironic that their ideology stands in opposition to individual rights, but so be it. If I am correct in assuming this is at least in part a political advocacy organization which works to defend gun freedoms, I am happy to consider them an ally in that respect.

You seem to have missed the "major orchestrated" part. A handful of randos on the internet does not constitute either, even solely counting desire and ignoring capability or desire.

Those are workers too, bud.

What kind of socialist?

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>A bit ironic that their ideology stands in opposition to individual rights

But that's entirely wrong. Even Marx thought it should be the right of the proletariat to own firearms.

You must not understand the mind of the jew. When you have pissed off your host and they react poorly, they're the ones being unreasonable for punishing them for just doing what comes natural to them. They just do not understand that "yes, that's normal for you, no we don't have to put up with it", is an option.