Why do Chinese copy everything?

> The first device identified as a gun, a bamboo tube that used gunpowder to fire a spear, appeared in China around AD 1000.[2] The Chinese had previously invented gunpowder in the 9th century

> An early type of firearm (or portable gun) is the fire lance, a black-powder–filled tube attached to the end of a spear and used as a flamethrower; shrapnel was sometimes placed in the barrel so that it would fly out together with the flames.[6][full citation needed][7][full citation needed] The earliest depiction of a gunpowder weapon is the illustration of a fire-lance on a mid-10th century silk banner from Dunhuan

> in due course, the proportion of saltpeter in the propellant was increased to maximise its explosive power.[7][full citation needed] To better withstand that explosive power, the paper and bamboo of which fire-lance barrels were originally made came to be replaced by metal.[6] And to take full advantage of that power, the shrapnel came to be replaced by projectiles whose size and shape filled the barrel more closely.[7][full citation needed] With this, we have the three basic features of the gun: a barrel made of metal, high-nitrate gunpowder, and a projectile which totally occludes the muzzle so that the powder charge exerts its full potential in propellant effect.[10]

> Breech-loading guns called cetbang were used by the Majapahit Empire during the conquest of Nusantara in 1336–1350. The knowledge of making powder weapons in Java is thought to have originated from the Mongol invasion in 1293.[11] These swivel guns mounted on various vessels of the Majapahit navy were used to great effect against traditional boarding-style warfare of other kingdoms in the archipelago.

You're just blatantly incorrect, but really I can't blame you your inferior pigskin genetics don't allow you to debate with an intellectually superior asian, it's ok. Just remember, next time, look up evidence first so you don't get embarrassed in a debate like you have here.

Not that user
But by the Song Dynasty, Chinese were already using single barrel handgonnes and explosives/incendiaries.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilongjiang_hand_cannon

The Ming Chinese alone were already using portable Mortars, triple barrelled handgonnes & later went full arquebuses & rack n' pinion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_weapons_in_the_Ming_dynasty
The 神機營 were actively experimenting on firearms and cannons at every opportunity.
Truly a shame that the Manchus ruined everything and destroyed China

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The Chinese invented gun powder and made fireworks with it. The Europeans looked at gun powder and made guns with it. You have to give credit where credit is due

When it comes to firearms, the Qing Chinks only failed in certain areas, namely their failure in developing rifled barrels, actual combat ships and congreve rockets

Thank you for being legitimately well educated. Unlike this complete retard who has knows nothing about technology or history.

And yes, if China had stayed together and had some more years to innovate further who knows how much more advanced we would be now. I mean, the European musket, was pretty much the exact same as the early Chinese weapons. Nothing really changed till the Americans came along, Europeans have contributed jack shit to guns, they merely modify and copy Asian and American ideas.

Hey retard, do some basic research. The first guns were asian. Read or better yet just do some basic readings on the topic before posting. Europeans have done jack shit to the evolution of firearms. Asians invented it, and the firearms they made were almost exactly the same as the muskets dumbass euros were using half a millenia later. The only real innovation in guns by the west was by americans. Europeans are dumb copying monkeys.

Just going to leave this here.

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Is there some sort of rule saying that nations have to make their own unique weapons?

Letting the US and Russia do all the work and then mass producing them yourself seems like an easy deal.
The only people butthurt about it are people like you who think that just because you share a nation with the developers means you have some sort of pride over it.

>China was just range-banned

Norinco & Polytech make the best AKs though

good

If you see no difference between a firework on a stick and european muskets, you're not Jow Forums enough to be posting at 4AM only timezone that matters

I don't get why people like spamming that.
It doesn't work.

The main reason why users were banned/blocked for using that Xi/Winnie the pooh meme was that the Taiwanese were spamming it all over
the Chinese internet so much so that most Chinese sites just straight-up block it.
It clearly does not work for Foreign sites.

All information travels along a physical line from one location to another. The chinese government would have you believe they have an impenetrable filter that will catch anything that might enlighten the average Chinese poster. QED, mention Tianemen square, watch the roaches evaporate when the page stops loading

>enlighten the average Chinese poster.
>Calls them locust, bugmen, subhuman and soulless
>Shits on them at every opportunity
>Treat their women like cheap Viet/Flip whores

You are not wrong

>t. butthurt chink ironically telling the truth
Nice to see that pasta doesn't work any more, it just hasn't been the same

>Imitation is the best form of flattery
t. Dwight Schrute

European muskets are the exact same idea as early Chinese and Arab guns. There's a reason euros are lower iq than asians, not a coincidence dumb pigskin

You know we used to have standards for butthurt, not that you newfag kiddos would know.
You already failed in category 1, namely tone.

>m-muh t-t-t-tone
Fuck I miss when pre sunrise EST was the best time to post on Jow Forums

Everything the chinese make is pure shit, but sometime it's good shit, then they realize that can't be allowed to continue and go right back on making real shit.
Pic related, that's a mistep as far as the chinese are concerned.

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This thread is r/asianmasculinity and PLA shill central. Everything posted ripped directly from wikipedia - sans the [citation(s) needed] markers. Classic.
They had gunpowder weapons first obviously, but were relegated to largely dumbfire explosives, rockets and fireworks that served more as psychological deterrents than guns as we know them.
Chinks didn't make the first firearms, no matter how badly you want to pretend.

To cut the cost of engineering, so they can put all the funding into manufacturing.

They fell for the Bullpup meme
Now they are making the polymer vers of the T-81 and calling it the T-03

That is not its final form

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Id rather have a Chinese AK than a RAK47

The Type-56 Rifle didn't start out as a copy as they god a license from the Soviets to make them.

White men are the biggest joke, lower iq than asians, less athletic than blacks, women don't even want to breed with you. The only whites worth a damn are nords, the rest of you are low iq flabby cucks. Chinese did invent the first firearms, this is a fact, and the Arabs were the first to really adopt them full scale, which is why you retards lost Constantinople and it's Istanbul to this day. Stay mad pigskin, you can do whatever mental gymnastics you want, the truth is that the first guns were made by asians. Whites are too stupid to come up with the idea on their own, most "European" inventions have really been done by jews, your race is just sad

Lol, no. Outside the US, they are considered middle (Norinco, NEDI) to low-tier (SDM), together with Romanian AK's. The top-tier AKs are Russian, followed by 2nd tier Bulgarian, Hungarian and Yugo AKs.

.02 Yuan have been deposited in your account

0.5 Shekel have been deposited on your bank account.

Honk

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yes fellow chink, it's not like the development of modern firearms was solely driven by europe and northern america for the last 300 years

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Remember Vietnam söyboys. Hold onto that fake kd so you feel better lol. While we invent everything and rule the iq scale. And blacks win all the sports. And Jews dominate business. Whites are just sad little laymen, not good at anything. Sad!

Because commies can't do anything but leech off the West.

pretty sure i saw you in another thread. your bait does not please me

Most asians are retards...thats why most asian countries are 3rd world shitholes. China had a recent economic boom because American and European manufacturers shifted their tech and capital there. Even japans rise was due to begging, borrowing or stealing the white mans technology. Just look at todays North Korea or china under mao or japs under their god king. Without the white man guiding with money and tech, these gooks would be worse off than africa. USA nuked & then rebuilt japan..rewrote the jap constitution and guided them like the retards they were. N. Korea went the natural korean way and they are worse than africa.
china is just doing what japan did in the early part of the 20th century. That is beg, borrow or steal european & american technology. But trump is finally putting a stop to it. Thieving Huawei go bye bye lol

That’s why the wypipo have dominated the world for the past five centuries, and remain the most influental despite being the least numerous and having the oldest average population.
Not even white btw, slavic jew.
Also - I remember Vietnam quite well, as my country has had troops depkoyed there training the commie militants. And yet, despite the support of the Eastern block countries and China, the Vietnamese have had overehelming losess compared to the Americans.
U seem salty btw.

I remember the asshanding Vietnam gave China when they tried to roll in.

Asians are really self hating wannabe whites. White skin is considered superior and high class. If you go to Asia, especially China, korea you'll see that there are tons of skin care products to Whiten the skin. Other Caucasian features are considered attractive as well, like rounded eyes. In Korea, they really take things to the extreme, they have a lot of plastic surgery there. The women essentially end up looking like lizard women.
lol pathetic gooks copying every aspect of white culture...most even claim to be christians now

>larping as asian
>doesn't know that all asians fucking hate each other

>these gooks would be worse off than africa
Let's no exaggerate. The nips Managed, with Western supervision, to evolve from Renaissance-level tech levels to modern-level within 30 years. Ten years later, Japan would defeat Russia.
African countries on the other hand, despite colonization, Western/Soviet supervision, and humanitarian aid is still at a tech level close to the Bronze Age. The least backward African countries being North Africa, Arabic colonies.

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What really blows me away is that somehwere in China there is a dinky chinese boomer in a PLA uniform that managed to convince another, somewhat fatter chinese boomer in a PLA uniform, that spending money every day for shills to come here and spam their hilarious over the top bullshit was somehow an effective use of the CCP’s time and money.
I really struggle to understand the mind of the chinese when I try to discern what they think they’re accomplishing with all this.

Protip: not actually Chinese, it is designed to drum up discontent among burgers towards china, care to take a guess who that might be?

Hint: Same people who post all the racist, cuck, jew shit constantly on ALL the boards, they're based out of St. Petersburg.

Charles Colton, actually. Dwight is pretty close.

That actually makes more sense.

>Muh Russian trolls
Lol