If we wanted to, could we be at war in Afghanistan for. . .ever?

If we wanted to, could we be at war in Afghanistan for. . .ever?

Like, by 2100 could they still be talking about troops in Afghanistan?

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>If we wanted to
You answered your own fucking question you fucking aspie
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No faggot, he did not. He's making the assumption that WE WANT TO stay.

Nothing like that has ever happened, so we really have no idea.

Not like it's gonna be super practical thing to do because Afghanistan is a sheer endless supply of rebellious muslims who will fight any military because they have nothing better to do, but chances are the usa pisses off the top brass at some point and they politely ask the usa to get the fuck out which either leads to conflict or the usa leaves.
Given this does not happen they COULD stay, but it is connected with a lot of implications.

Troops will be in afgan in 100 years. We are transforming the country into a western ally. It takes time and troops just like with Japan and Germany

Yes, because your average american/ISAF person has literally no idea what the issues in Afghanistan were or are.

The idea that it's the Taliban and the radicals VS the western backed forces that want democracy is plain wrong, yet gets banded about like it's gospel.

Afghanistan is made up of hundreds or groups who all hate their neighbours, all they care about is settling old debts and getting more land. The residents have completely played ISAF by appearing to embrace changes in return for infrastructure and protection. they point out their rivals as 'taliban' fighters just so they can take their land.

Meanwhile others turn to Iran and other "radical" Islamic nations and ask for weapons to fight their neighbours that now have powerful allies.

The factions have been doing this for 2000 years and they will do it for 2000 more until a fair system of land ownership is established along side fair courts that are free from local bias and a government that can monopolise violence to exert court sanctioned punishments properly.

This is all explained very well in a book the British Army tried to ban called

>An Intimate War: An Oral History of the Helmand Conflict

Literally all the US had to do was not to mess with Soviet Afghanistan in the first place.

That's the idea, but the main difference is that the school system is simply not under western control and you'll have a hard time to crack open the die hard muslim schools who literally preach sharia law.
As long as people aren't turning their backs on religion it's not gonna work.

there will be troops in Afghanistan in 2100, definitely

they probably won't be American troops; 2100 is like two wars from now. Chinese troops, maybe? German troops? Who the fuck knows.

[spoiler]also the USA won't be a thing by then[/spoiler]

What a retarded prediction, kys cuck

Well yes that's why politicians don't want to talk about it, because it will take generations but it will work.

Sounds about par for the course for post-WW2 US strategy.

>He's making the assumption that WE WANT TO stay.
But already don't now. But here we still are

Yes, Mr. State Department. It is our patriotic duty to make sure that Gay Pride Parades can march through the streets of Kabul, and we won't leave until that happens.

Make fun of current social trends all you want its about power projection and regional security. That's why I said western allied not western.

They will privatize it soon. We will let Blackwater become a mini British East India company. Its neo-colonialism. This is because we are in the USA's. late republic era, soon we will go full empire builder mode.

>ywn join the army to suppress colonial rebellion
>ywn fight some sort of Alamo/Rorke’s Drift hybrid
>ywn bitch about the collapse of said empire when you’re old

It hurts.

There's a trillion dollars worth of lithium underneath Afghanistan, so until that all gets extracted they'll be there.

>If we wanted to, could we be at war in Afghanistan for. . .ever?
Yeah, why not. US didn't leave Korea or Germany after invading them back in 40s.

there arent any u.s. companies mining that shit you retard.

>2100
>Afghanistan still undefeated

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How the fuck can anyone call any of this a war? There is no war. A war is combat between two or more enemy militaries . There isn't and has not ever been two. It's just amerifats testing a bunch of toys on sandniggers and perpetuating the war machine, justifying their over inflated budget, and giving their boys a chance to get a medal cause every generation needs a war to say hurr durr look I participated in freedom n shit.

Fucking crock of shit. Call me when it's actually America v Russia or America v China with actual invasions, bombing campaigns and ground warfare with distinct troops with distinct nation's and generals they're dying for.

Fuck you

Afghanistan is the US military's 2 way test range.

Well I remember McCain claiming that we should be in Iraq for 100 years so I don't see why not.

the whole point of it is to keep a battle-tested army on hand just in case a real war starts

peacetime armies grow hollow and decay

Maybe he thought the cure for cancer was in haji skulls.

Jesus Christ the shear audacity of this fucking neocon boomer. We should just fucking gas the region and fuck off out of there. We don’t need another ally in the Middle East and no I don’t care they are a strategic point in the region. They alway will be and always have been an uncivilized buffer state between east and western interests in asia.

It may be A-Stan, it may not. But don't worry, the US will be at war somewhere in that general region for pretty much ever, or at least until every last drop of saudi oil has been sold.

The moment the US stops being at war in the middle east for any prolonged period of time, is when the US economy collapses. Why? The only reason why the US economy even has a chance of competing worldwide is because of the US dollar, because everyone wants to buy US dollars. Why this? Because of the petrodollar system. The US guarantees the military stability of Saudiarabia, and in exchange for this the Saudis only sell their oil in USD. Everyone wants cheap saudi oil, therefore everyone needs dollars. The Saudis will keep this deal good as long as they see themselves threatened by their neighbours. So conveniently, their neighbours always just happen to be at war with the US. Wierd how that works, isn't it?

>tl;dr
War in the middle east is what keeps the US alive, economically. Yall'd be dumb if you stopped.

So.... We glass it

Been to Helmand and was in charge of questioning alot of local and can confirm that alot of that is true. Will be purchasing the book.

One personal example is that we offered to build wells for the locals in the village which we occupied and to get approval from the local we went to the white beard (what we called the leader). We held a Key Leader Engagement and picked out 15 or so places to have a local build wells while under the watches eyes of a squad of Marines over the next month. Come to find out that all 15 of the wells were placed on land which he owned and all our good will towards the locals caused was anger. We ended up destroying all but one of the wells. That one was in the center of a bazaar beside a shop which the same fellow owned but it was almost communal property there.

we should have never went in the first place. its not even an actual war. its like if an enemy force ever took over states like kentucky or texas. insurgents would just take potshots, use IEDs and ambush unsuspecting troops.

>the petrodollar system.
Fun fact, this is also why Maduro will fall, btw. The following is copied but still explains it sort of well:

Backstory:
Countries that do export oil are theoretically free to choose which currency to accept for their oil. Countries such as Iran and Iraq, Lybia, the scandinavian countries, Russia. Very few of them do, however. Lybia did, Quadaffi started offering oil in Euros, sometime in the late '00s, even went so far as coining the term petroeuro. Coincidentially right about the same time, unrest grew in his country, the Arab spring happened and eventually full revolution broke out and he got killed.
Couple years before that, Saddam of Iraq did just about the same thing. Threatened to not sell his oil in USD. And suddenly the absolutely positively had WMDs hidden somewhere. Cue for the Global War on Terror. Today we know someone did an oopsie, Iraq never had any Nukes (how? from whom?) and no chemical weapons plants either. But it was too late for old Saddam, he ate a JDAM while on the shitter.

Venzuela:
For some reason though, Maduro doesn't like having dollars (or maybe doesn't like the US having control over parts of his country, idk). In mid-to-late 2018, he announced that he would stop selling oil for USD, and instead accept only a fancy new cryptocurrency. He even made up a cool sounding name for it, but I forgot it. Well, thats a new one, cryptocurrency. But the more things change, the more they stay the same: that cryptocurrency is NOT dollars, and therefore threatening the petrodollar system.
Thus it is in the best interest of the US to have Maduro removed from office and "democracy restored". Guaido said he would not totally rule out accepting US support. Guess what the US goverment is going to ask for in return? Guess which one of Maduros economic policies (the only one that kind of made sense) is going to be immediately reversed? Guess which currency Venezuela will be charging for their oil in the future? Yeah.

>gas the region
Oh wow such an enlightening strategy what's your highest level of education 3rd grade? I'm sure you would care if you didn't receive the benefits but you'd probably just blame that on someone else.

>we should have never went there in the first place
Why not? It was there or Saudi Arabia and afganistan was where the organization taking credit for 9-11 was.

so waste time and money for invasion/occupation forces to get one man who was never there?

Saddam was hung not bombed you retarded nigger monkey

>what is Tora Bora
OBL was there and at the time we were going after an organization that took credit not just one man and the country is actually perfect for us considering the regional impact having troops and bases there has. I agree however that it wasn't as good as invading Pakistan but there wasn't as much reason. I'm assuming you were too young to remember 9-11 but the US military was going somewhere the public demanded it.

I was being facetious you absolute fucking retard. We’re not just gonna drop poison gas on the region. I meant that the area is a waste of time and that we would be better off with all Afghans dead. There is no point in remaining in Afghanistan

>There is no point in remaining in Afghanistan
>What is entering the age of globalism
>What is Western influence
>What is another large, taxable, underpaid workforce to produce Coca-cola
>What is protecting most trustworthy ally

There's plenty of reasons to stay there, it's just that none of them benefit you or me. Once the ME is successfully 'integrated', Northern Africa will be next.

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>no point in remaining in Afghanistan
Once again you have no strategic thinking abilities. Why could it be beneficial to have military access and support from a country that is close to China, Russia, India and Iran? Why would regional influence in the middle east be important to the United States? What benefits would withdrawaling have?