Had Russia not interfered, how hard would assad lose?

>without russia his army would have killed him or leaved him earlier
uhhhhh wut?

>cant refute anything
>think that getting mad or playing stupid is an arguement

dude it's just assumptions, without any kind of proof or even an indication. there is nothing to refute. are you fucking retarded?

why don't you try and refute my Uruguay theory? fucking idiot

Does it matter? His country was either going to overrun by rebels/isis/kurds or sell his asshole to russians.

>overrun by kurds
kurds and assad are allies, kurds only started their thing after assad retreated his troops from the north and gave over power to them to use his army elsewhere

Not him, but kinda answered, except for the part about Iran, they wouldn't come for a death situation, the FSA was made up of soldier who deserted already, now add the thousands that died, would be a matter of time till all deserted or killed him

US... always a friend of terrorists world wide.

>my Uruguay theory
So and as well was from you. Nice try to make it look like you are multiple people disagreeing with it. Must have triggered you extra hard.
>why don't you try and refute my Uruguay theory?
Because it is just one big fallacy, you projecting fucking idiot. Uruguay doesnt profit like Russia from 90% of the existance of ISIS.

No, I'm just bored and it's just one of the most retarded things I've read in a while. I wasn't intending on pretending anything. Like I said, it's just your assumption. No proof, no indication, just your thoughts. The fact that you call it a "mayor" redpill is just so fucking Jow Forums and stupid that it hurts

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They're allies as of the moment. Lord knows what will happen next.

Russia is the single nation that profited the most from the existance of ISIS, you can not refute that.

Iran was the actual heavy lifter of this conflict, russian airsupport was a nice bonus but mostly a PR thing, while Iran had turned the tide with foots on the ground.

Quads of truth.
I know it is supposed to be a vatnik repelent and you can already see how well it works in this thread, but damn, it is spooky how spot on it is when you think of it.

The US is backing the kurds on their side of the euphrates. Ruskie vs burger drudge matches can last decades, I don't think assads getting that land back soon.

That country is gonna be a shithole for the rest of our lives.
>inb4 it was already a shithole
Yeah but not nearly at the same level it is now

what if uruguay has been playing us this whole time?

>ISIS is an russian asset though.
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Israeli

Stale ass pasta

That doesnt make any sense at all, through the existance of ISIS Assad could stay in power and Iran upped their influence in Syria as well by a large marging for years to come. This was absolut against Israels interests. Inb4 you post the ISIS apologising thing as some sort of fault proof.
When you count everything together, Russia had the most advantages from what ISIS had done.

>whoever gets the most advantage from it is behind it
are you 12?

Hard, like fleeing the country hard. Syrian Christians and Yazidis would've been wiped out.

stuffing for the turkey

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Civil end within the year with massive Syrian victory, government cracks down even harder on salafists. Israel perpetually butthurt.

Whatever you say, Hillary.

most syrian christians and yazidi are living in the northeast and are protected by/fighting with the kurds.

Kurds made a big mistake by not taking both sides of the Euphrates river. If they did that they would control most of the water and agriculture.

If by protected you mean being ethnically cleansed by then yes

That is one way to miss the whole point of the post.

She lost.

There would've never been Syrian and Libyan civil wars and refugee crisis in Europe. Makes you think, doesn't it?

Go away Jew

You forgot about the fact that the U.S. supplied weapons to FSA and had Israel invade and take some land in the south. The Turks being roaches also taking over the advantage of occupying the northern territories made the situation non-domestic. Global intervention aside the FSA was an opportunist group that already failed to complete a goal without splintering. The war would have been shorter if not for the global intervention.

nobody on Jow Forums would agree with US creates "arab spring" then funds ISIS when the original "moderate rebels" cant get the job done, who knows why it would benefit the US deep state but it 100% was in line with their plan

truly uninformed, they may have seen benefits but "profited most" is pants on head retarded

Assad is 100%reliant on Russian gibs. Hezbollah and Iran were getting their ass kicked as well

If Russia ever leaves or stops giving him gibs he’d collapse in weeks

>If Russia ever leaves or stops giving him gibs he’d collapse in weeks
Syria was to collapse when Russia intervened. Now it's fairly stable, much more than it was in 2015 for pretty damn sure. The only thing left is to remove Idlib terrorists.

>The only thing left is to remove Idlib terrorists
>not removing k*rds

How many responses have you made in this thread to this post?
5? Or 7?

So, is it fair to say that Syria is now Russia's Israel?

Ethically dubious government propped up for the Middle East real estate?

Kurds sit on their side of the river and will probably get some official autonomy after Idlib is liberated and the war ends.

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How many russian planes must assad shoot down before al-quds is liberated for the sword of islam?

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>Mighty SAA/Hezbollah/IRGC couldn't handle a few syrian goat farmers with AK's
uhhhh....

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Sort of. Except Russia has direct troops there keeping assad propped up, there aren't any US troops in Israel and they fight the arabs on their own.

Also the financial cost of Russia's adventure in syria is much more than the yearly aid figure to Israel.

If Russia left it'd collapse all over again. Like when the US left Iraq/Vietnam or what would happen if they left afghanistan today.

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>Like when the US left Iraq/Vietnam or what would happen if they left afghanistan today.
The difference is that Russia supports the government, not tribal rebellious religious terrorists. So no, I don't think Syria as it is now would collapse and see terrorism and armed crime blossoming if Russian military would cease major operations in region the same way as when Americans pilled out of Iraq.

quads of truth holy fuck.

could be Israeli Mossad spook magic but goddamn it kinda makes sense. I know Russia has been wanting to lock down Germany and most of the EU for natural gas pipelines, which allows them to circumvent Ukraine (which used to have the Russia-EU pipelines running through their country) with Nord Stream 2 running through the Baltics. essentially Russia's dino farts keep Germany- the economic heart of Europe- from doing anything against Russia.

I guess if the Gulf States got a pipeline through Turkey and into Europe then Russians would be basically BTFO by EU and would potentially collapse as a result.

the "government" is a bunch of ad hoc shia militia's. It'd fall apart as soon as fear of russian bombings went away.

>t. SAA "totally not ISIS" twitter PR team

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>le everyone and everything is ISIS meme
This aint the 9gag comment section.

It would have been over by 2015 if the Russians hadn't invaded, if ISIS had secured T4 they would have been able to launch operations into the Damascus country side which was dominated by rebel groups at the time, once that happened the few routes north towards their coastal bastions would be under threat of being cut off. Assad should have lost this civil war easily, but Russia bailed him out.

He is right though? Shiite militias are the back bone of the Syrian "military" at the moment and have been for years. Iranian and Iraqi manpower were crucial to keeping the SAA propped up while they went under a near 3 year overhaul trying to stand up new divisions after the massive casualties and desertions from the early part of the war. The NDF is basically one giant Shiite militia.

Israel
Turkey
KSA
Qatar
USA
FR
UK
UAE

All of these countries had a lot more to gain from ISIS than Russia ever could, which is why they were the countries funding ISIS and Russia wasn't.

You are replying to a Jew, just FYI

No, that is factual wrong and you also know that. There has already been posted more than enough reasons in this thread why you are wrong, but your empty try with literal no arguement at all has been noted and counted with the others. You are almost as pahtetic as the Uruguay idiot, that turned out to be Armatard in another thread. You know what, so hard as it triggered him there is a good chance you are him as well. Rent free.

>its da jooz
You cant discredit yourself more easily.

The amount that bubbles up around Russias involvement on the topic when you actually look into it is overwhelming.
reuters.com/investigates/special-report/russia-militants/
>For years Islamic militants in Russia were hunted by police. But then the authorities changed tack and allowed some to travel to the Middle East
>By December 2015, some 2,900 Russians had left to fight in the Middle East, Alexander Bortnikov, director of the FSB, the Russian security service, said at a sitting of the National Anti-terrorist Committee late last year. According to official data, more than 90 percent of them left Russia after mid-2013.

washingtontimes.com/news/2004/oct/28/20041028-122637-6257r/
>Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
>Documents reviewed by the official included itineraries of military units involved in the truck shipments to Syria. The materials outlined in the documents included missile components, MiG jet parts, tank parts and chemicals used to make chemical weapons, the official said.

So are you telling me that Russia allowed ultra-radicalized salafists to stirr up shit in Iraq only to later sell Frogfoots and Hinds on the cheap to Iraqis in order to help them with the war effort? What kind of 67th dimensional sudoku is this?

You dumb retarded polack, ISIS took over Iraq so quickly because the bulk of the Iraqi national army were a bunch of useless malingerers who where there just to cash a paycheck and nothing more than that. Goddamnit Hiro should just wipe out Jow Forums once and for all so you faggots would finally move to cripplechan.

How many times more you want to pretend to be another person? Isnt it enough already? Pretty obvious how often you already tried it.

PANAMA never did anything against ISIS
I think it was them!

>this fallacy already had been posted and shown to be wrong two times in this thread
>third time is the charm
That is why you can tell it is always the same person.

No, its obviously Sealand, they clearly do nothing on any thing, clearly they profit from every shit happening in the world

This is pretty interesting.

There is quite the chance that it is Armatard with his wonky attempts to stay under the radar, already got exposed in the F-35 thread and the air defense thread, was kinda to be expected that he also needed to do his thing here.

Nice samefagging. Why dont you make it even more obvious?

>maybe when i ignore 90% of what was said and samefag as well i can make it look like wrong
Which of those two nations has a military base in Syria that it wants to keep?
Which of those two nations depends strongly on selling oil and gas to europe and profited from the stalled building of the pipeline through syria caused by the elongated war?
Which of those two nations has a puppet dictator in place that was threatened by a revolution?
Which of those two nations needed a big player that is a threat to everyone and devided the rebel side by taking over a large portion forcefully?
Which of those two nations used the existance of ISIS as an exuse to get military involved and then did almost nothing against them in the beginning?
Look at that, it is non of them, but it all fits for Russia. Doesnt it suck to be so fundamentally wrong like you?

>There is quite the chance that it is Armatard
That explains pretty much all of it, wish i read it before i made this post.
What all else does this degenerate needs to do to finally get permabanned? He is fucking up threads left and right for whole years.

WITNESS

Looks like he could not stop himself from trying it another time, count is at four.

And now he is gone into full silence mode like he has done in the F-35 thread next door after his biography has been posted. His next stop will most likely be in the air defense thread in some time, will again pretend to be someone else. He did quite the number with this today.