How is the invasion of Venezuela going to go? Whos going in first?

>syria? never heard of it

Syria is close to Russian bases, Venezuela is in Americas back yard, you see the difference?
Russia is literally poverty tier force projection.

>when the US basically has let communism exist in their geographical sphere/peripheral states.
This will be the 6th or 7th coup attempt we have tried there.

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I know, but realistically speaking, if America were as imperialist as some say, America could've easily crushed the countries militarily.

Implying American imperialism means fighting commies away.

The cold war is over. American imperialism doesn't care about your nation state as long as you buy coca cola, wear Levis or watch Spiderman. Not saying our "imperialism" is necessarily a bad thing...just that it's taken a form that operates outside your realm of ctriticism.

AIRBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNE RANGEEEEEEERERSSS

if it is an ACTUAL invasion, we will first go to the Organization of American States and get them to support and take part in it. Venezuela would then have all of it's neighbors coming across every land border and we would come in from the air and sea.

Except we cant because V has been protected by russia for decades. Its why we sent troops into panama but tried a bunch of coups in venuzeula and cuba. And its why we wont send troops in now either. Neither of us like each other but everyone has to pretend we are not fighting ever since ww2 so nobody hits that launch button.

It may be useful to know that even their militias have militias, some 80-year-olds with nuggets at the bottom of the barrel. Potshots will be coming in left and right allthe time, which will cause some trouble while not necessarily being effective.
So the ops has to be fast and focused and all-out, or risk becoming full of relatively expensive fuckeries.

>everyone has to pretend we are not fighting ever since ww2
I dunno how you came to the thought that we are not fighting, seeing as both Putin and Trump are always saying shit about one another, how their military can destroy one anoth3rm

lol
the russians can't even put an end to a war in ukraine, a neighboring country

>Russia will go nuclear over fucking Venezeuala
What kind of krokodil are you doing, Ivan?

I was talking about how we have never stopped trying to overthrow the governments of each others allied countries through coups or sending soldiers under false pretenses. Like the "pro russian definitely not russian military" rebels who took crimea or the "advisors helping fight ISIS" in syria. Thats as close as two nuclear powers can get to actual war because of MAS. We wont actually try killing each others official soldiers because it might snowball. So russia having soldiers inside venuzeula is enough to stop any american troops from being sent in.

Rangers role is to seize infrastructure, like an air base, which is what the did in Panama, they will engage the Rooskies there unless Ivan has the smarts to stand down because if Trump goes in he will turn the DOD loose and take Ven. and Columbia and Honduras to cut flow of "Migrants" and drugs

>Surely this is exactly what Green Berets are for?
No, No it's not

Belize. ; )

PRC and Russia has already got into that shithole

Why didn't the US just invade before the Russians sent dudes lol

>and Columbia and Honduras to cut flow of "Migrants" and drugs
imagine being this fucking delusional

GENERATION KILL VENEZUELA WHEN ????

Only if Iceman is in it

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Because invading other countries without congressional approval requires you to convince the masses it is the right thing to do so you dont get slaughtered come election season. It takes time to move the needle and russia moved before it got to that point.

If the Rooski-chinks are in VZ it means they are back in Cuba, along w/the Imams (VZ already has the largest pop of Hamas in the w.Hemisphere) It means it's Go Time for WW3. If Trump executes 90% of Congress as a prelude to Operation Kick Commies In The Nutz my only complaint will be that he should have done the same to every Blue City-and TV Network.

Well first the SF and CIA comes in. Nobody knows when and where. They do their job then you have the QRF units coming in along with both navy and air force assets going along with them. Then the rest of the armed forces such as your armored units and mech units coming down. It will not be good for the Venezuelans, the Russians, or for Chang. I honestly hope we do send troops down there and just murder fuck the unholy trinity to send them a message.

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Dutch Marine stationed on Curaçao. How fucked am I?

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You guys got issued bullets this time?

Americans going into Venezuela would be the most surefire way to delegimitize Guiado.

We don’t need to send the military anywhere unless they’re needed in defense of the nation and a jungle oilnigger country tearing itself apart is no threat to the US.

Kak

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>invading other countries without congressional approval
You mean like Obama and Syria?

How long can you tread water

>it would start off as a Marine amphibious invasion
Doubtful. Closest Marine base is Camp Lejeune and either the Navy ships would have to go down Norfolk to pick them up. They aren't on standby either so there's that.

Airplanes are much quicker than ships so it would be the 82nd and the 75th, especially because of GRF. I can't remember which BCT is on GRF right now but it would be one of them.

Nazi atlantis?

>Nazi fish
Maybe the chinese are right, we should kill everything i nthe ocean

But... it's been static since like 2016.
The war in donbass is pretty much over, they just like to shell each other with artillery, but make no mistake the lines aren't moving any time soon.

Can't wait to see the majority that supports Maduro shooting the fuck out of American invaders.

Maybe Russia will also kidnap Marco Rubio and hang that piece of warmongering shit too.

>Surely this is exactly what Green Berets are for?
>unconventional forces leaving a conventional invasion
You need to turn off the xbox and pick up a book

He's illegitimate in the first place. He lost the election. The only reason he's able to do what he's doing is because he's backed by US oil interests.

Why would they want to

fuck venezula

Huh, lets think of who goes in before everyone else, like they did before the initial invasion of Afghanistan? Anyone?

Jesus Christ would lose an election to Maduro in Venezuela.

No only sticks

Trump is not gonna start executing politicians, let alone regular citizens. Are you nuts?

I don't think you know what an MEU is.

LMFAO Americans be like "MUH WHAAA? RUSSIANS AND CHINESE? I-I-I-I-I-I DIDN'T MEAN IT, SIR, I'M SO SORRY, WE'RE LEAVING NOW. WE'RE GOING BACK HOME TO OUR J-OWNED SHOPPING MALL SHITHOLE COUNTRY, MR RUSSIAN AND CHINESE MASTERS, SIR!"

Oh I sure do. Do you? Tell me, how an MEU would get to Venezuela without ships, because the Marines don't have heavy airlift capabilities and the range of the V-22 is not nearly great enough to get there.

>cold war is over
Sure.

Is Venezuelan war-to-be posting just the gov't shilling in preparation?

Reddit spacing.

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i am betting there are cia glow in the dark niggers there already doing cia shit

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With the Expeditionary Strike Group that they're assigned to.

Yeah, so ships. Which are not as fast as planes.

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You make it seem like it's a race to get there. Venezuala's not going anywhere. You're also making it sound like war was immediately declared - but if you read the big post, you'd know that they were sent on a "Humanitarian crisis" civilian aid mission, which would give Trump a political reason to deploy them in the first place without Congress's permission. Not that he needs it, but it'd look better and not skewer him media-wise (immediately, anyways).

Germany would have beat the Soviet Union one on one.

>How is the invasion of Venezuela going to go?
It won't. It would produce 5 million + refugees which would come to the US.

Putting it like that makes it sound more likely.

The question I posed was
>how an MEU would get to Venezuela without ships
To which the answer given was
>Expeditionary Strike Group
Which is fucking ships

Good, we could always use more Hispanics. Love me some brown women.

to be fair the separatists pretty much won. the same thing that has happened to Ukraine happened to Moldova and then Georgia. Russia sponsors separatists made up of a couple of "ethnic Russian minorities" in "majority Russian regions" to punch a hole in a country who isn't playing ball with the Kremlin anymore. the rogue countries stick around in a state of political limbo unrecognized by the international community, which makes it easy for Russia to use them as bases for "peace keeping operations".

I think like Panama it will be a combo of US Army Airborne, Rangers, and Marines

I think the first skirmishes will be the Colombians. it would make sense for them to be going in first to secure their border against Venezuela, since Colombia will 1000% side with USA. in fact I wouldn't be surprised if Colombia is already doing raids and recon across the border here and there already.

hell they might've been doing raids on Venezuelan soil since Chavez came to power, since his regime supported FARC and helped them smuggle drugs.

This picture is either bait or commie delusion

THE ENEMY IS HERE

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Not fucked I've seen you guys train on lejuene, you're animals.

>He's illegitimate in the first place. He lost the election. The only reason he's able to do what he's doing is because he's backed by US oil interests.

The elections did not abode by the rules set by the Venezuelan constitution, Guaido is legitimate because he is the president of the assembly and the constitution says the job is his when the executive loses it.

For such a SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED board, you guys sure love trampling constitutions.

Commie delusion? It literally perpetuates Nazi propaganda by regurgitating the Asian Hordes myth that some German officers tried to sweep away their failures late and post-war.

I don't care if it's a legitimate war or not; I just want to see an Abrams painted in woodland camo again.

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If anyone wants to solve the Venezuelan problem, it is enough to make the American government give back the billions of dollars they have blocked. But if the posters want to play toy soldiers in a foreign land do not complain about casualties

Rangers will of course

Garuntee we are gonna do the same stupid shit we did during the invasion of Iraq. Except unlike Iraq, where we got away with everything due to the Iraqis not having the will to fight us. The commies will probably be more dedicated. So doing our typical high speed low drag drive humvees directly into the city tactic will end in disaster and our over reliance on ISR assets like drones and shit instead of humint and ground recce will bite us in the ass hard. So what I think will happen is:
>we invade
>mass cas events multiple times a day everywhere
>one or two horrible failures where mass amounts of troops die off or are routed due to command stupidity and arrogance(see the Clausewitz humvee maneuver)
>political and public support instantly wanes and starts effecting reinforcement potential
>we win but then have to make sure insurgents don’t rise up.....
>we immediately institute a corrupt ineffective government the half the population doesn’t like
>we prioritize “hearts and minds” instead of providing safety and security to the general public
>politicians begin maneuvering to gain power
>”vote 4 me and I’ll end this stupid war”
>not enough troops get sent in to perform proper COIN operations
>Venezuela Falls into despair and disarray
>one or two decades later we pretend we made a difference and then withdraw, leaving behind a nation that can barely feed its people, much less defend itself

War is fun

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>Oh no you didn’t.mp3

Isn't this place already being run into the ground by maduro? Couple ven bros I've talked to have told me how terrible it is over there and that maduro supporters are like a fuckin cult. That one quote about socialists/communists blaming foreigners or opposition and everything else but themselves of their system reminds me of what's going on in that place

There was never supposed to be a conventional invasion of Afganistan. They went in to train locals, because that is what they do.

>Except unlike Iraq, where we got away with everything due to the Iraqis not having the will to fight us. The commies will probably be more dedicated.

Fucking what, you seriously think a handful of gibdmedat commies will fight an occupation force if it brings them the food, soap and toilet paper that their commie government cant give for free in the first place? Most of Venezuela is just starved, tired and trying to fucking live, not religious zealots. Around 5 million of them have exited the country, and not just random people but doctors and engineers and shit, the rest is rioting every day, dying of power outtages at hospitals, police repression and gang violence. They've had SEVERAL military units desert, revolt or go AWOL, if there was an invasion i guarantee most of the Venezuelan armed forces would give up and just let you pass. Your only concern are the few hardcore brainwashed commies in Maduro's party militia coming at you with old mosins. The poor people wo't get out of the ghettos to fight, they don't care, they only want free shit.

>It won't. It would produce 5 million + refugees

The famine there already has

Venezuela has over 31 million people. If a war were to break out and the US invaded, millions would leave and they would stream towards the US in caravans. Hundreds of thousands are already going towards the southern border right now (see pic) and if there was a war, the problem would multiply by a hundred.
Only traitors like Bolton and Schumer and rest of the ((neocon)) pieces of shit want to flood the US with all these migrants.

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The general populace is not a bunch of commies, and the soldiers are not that dedicated, they're just glad to love slightly less shittily than everybody else.

Yep, give each one a 12 pack of toilet paper and they'll defect.

yes that's the whole point you retard, russians want to drag the conflict as long as possible as a means of weakening Ukraine, you dumb fuck

They would be more likely to swarm neighboring countries as they have tried. But you're right, Bolton is a piece of shit.

>They would be more likely to swarm neighboring countries
Yes, and guess where people from those neighboring countries themselves are going to? That's right, the US. And US cut off aid to all those countries.
Just look at what happened to EU with Syria... all those refugees flooded the Germany, France, Sweden etc. And the countries in-between just let them pass though. Same will happen with all these refugees.
And Soros and Co. will pay for their buses and food just like they've paid for all those caravans in the past.

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Good luck getting over the Darien gap. No bus will ever make it, and they will die trying to walk it. More well-off countries in South America are a much more attractive prospect because they're that much easier to get to. Soros would want a flood of Central American Indians than Venezuelans anyway.

A war quickly ousting the president is less likely to produce mass migration than leaving the guy there to continue starving and repressing them. There's no ethnic or religious conflict to make the place particularly unlivable, the only problem is a rogue government.

>A war quickly ousting the president
LOL'd fucking hard. You really think this will happen with Russians there? You're fucking delusional. The war would quickly become a decade-long insurgency... just like Iraq.

Never underestimate the will to fight. The only reason why the invasion of Iraq wasn’t a complete shitshow with marines and soldiers dying left and right wasn’t because muh monkey models or muh sandpeople or whatever. It was exclusively because the Iraqis lacked the will to fight against us. Iraq was in constant war for decades under a brutal dictator. Hence the reason why so many objectives we hit where we were expecting entire divisions to be there, only had a battalion worth of irregulars fighting sporadically in an unorganized manner. I’m sure there is a good chunk of die hard commies inna jungle just waiting to banzai some capitalist invaders.

I want Jow Forums to fuck off and die already

>LOL'd fucking hard. You really think this will happen with Russians there?

What are they going to do, bitch about foreign intervention in a country two continents away from their own? Fuck off Russians won't pick this hill to die on, they don't need the oil.

And Venezuelans are Latinos, with a real government in exile in Colombia, and a humanitarian crisis in process there. Venezuela used to be a relatively cheap, free market Capitalist Christian nation in the 90s, not a backwards tribal desert semi colony, they don't need to have the "nation building" done for them. And most US GIs are Mexicans that speak Spanish already. It's nowhere near the same level of cultural shock and rejection.

Those hardcore commies dont matter, the average Venezuelans' feelings do and most just literally want the crisis to end already.