Why don't you live in the phillipines Jow Forums?
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because i live in america. also i seen the 1911s they make. would like to shoot one. also
>ny times
>ebil guns
lmao everytime
>fuels terrorism
lol blame the dude making guns in a hut to feed his family while legitimate terrorist are supplied with military surplus, requisitioning old arms depots and being funded by people who actually have money. It's a fucking 1911 not an RPG
Why is it illegal? I could do that in Cali.
Also, the stream of cheap pussy would drain me.
I'm visiting after my trip to Japan. It's my grandma's 75th birthday.
I leave for Japan, Friday. Wish me luck, anons.
Not MacArthur enough
>Implying shack built RPG's shouldn't be freely sold
Kys.
Theyre actually not bad. Theyre solid, ugly and reliable. Basically the hi-points of 1911
Is that a real one?
Not even what I implied, my implication was that a 1911 isn't contributing to terrorism
Because it's a shithole
i dont think flips make rock island 1911s
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A homemade one? No, but you mentioned 1911's and i remember that RIA outsources to the Philippines
It would stand to reason that some of these guys making homemade funz work in the factories making the ones bound for the US, but thats just speculation on my part
>implying I have to live in a shithole to do bad nigga shit
i was going through classicguns and people were stating in the comments that the rock island revolvers were made in the philippines. under 200 but most people seemed to be pleased. idk about the 1911s being made there.
Since when does rock island armory allow photos of their factory floor?
Yeah i think that may be it and i got them switched. My bad
>gHoSt GuNs
God, I hate the media
just makes me want one tbqh
looking into it maybe they are produced in the philippenes.
What are good 1911 builds
I just heard something about it as a one-off factoid a long time ago, i really have no idea what im talking about.
Ill still shill my ria as a reliable brick tho
They've got influence in places you wouldn't think to look. Like the navy, for instance. A sizable chunk of the pacific fleet is controlled by a so called Flip Mafia. Its why their real navy is rusted-out crap.
Are those even flips? From left to right it looks like a cambodian and a mexican to me.
>Its why their real navy is rusted-out crap.
Because the Philippines does not have the money, why not go to where the money is?
My white genes are not worthy of being near such glorious land I devote myself to learning Tagalog in preparation for when the phillipines becomes a major world power influencing the entire world
I remember these memes
there was one that was like "You don't need condoms if you have SWAG" that got people extremely upset
>"You don't need condoms if you have SWAG" that got people extremely upset
lol and to think now spreading aids is acceptable
>My white genes are not worthy
Au contraire my dude, you can very easily help the cause by knocking up a girl; even your hideous and defective genetics can be refined into a good looking kid who's white passing enough to get into government/the media and start the integration.
Brown people
My friend married a Flip, I just met her. She's anime tier, looks like a light skinned, large eyed Nip, Beautiful, poised, shy. I'm so fkn jelly!
this
>NYT
I don't live in the Philippines because I live somewhere else already. And these hut-made 1911s don't even come here, they're sold to locals over there. Unlike the AR-15s that Obama's AG Eric Holder passed off to Mexican terrorists, we will never see one of those 1911s in this country.
And yeah, I have a 1911 made by Filipinos. Not RIA. Made by Shooter's Arms Mfg (SAM) for ATI. It's fuckin sweet.
200 Philippine pesos have been added to your account
Light skin Filipino, highly doubt that unless that person was 1/16 Filipino or something. The rest of your crap is just yellow fever bullshit.
I dated two filipinos. Imo its not worth it. They're hot and can either fuck or suck really well (not both) but damn are they insane.
>craft with a deadly toll
owowowowowo scarrrrry
>Backyard gunsmiths.
>Fuelling Terrorism
LMAAAAAAO, The Moro and Commie rebels get their supplied from corrupt fucks in the Philippine government and foreign gun smugglers.
If anything the backyard monkey-shop gunsmiths can be blamed for gun crime, but they are also arming the vigilantes in troubled neighborhoods.
>"Why don't you spend thousands of dollars on air fare so that you can starve in a jungle and die of jungle rot, Jow Forums?"
Because I like electricity, running water, paved roads, and living in an area with somewhat fewer derkaderka headchoppers looking for a fa-rang to behead on camera.
How can I make my own 1911?
They're made in the Phillipines, all right, but in a military arsenal on old Colt tooling, not by hand in a mud hut in the boondocks.
I work with a guy from there he says the gun culture isn't as big as it is made out to be. He now owns a lot of guns but there only had two.
I've already lived in a third world shithole once. no thanks, been there got the t-shirt.
Elisco Machine & Tool has the plant in Manila where RIA 1911s are made, on old Colt tooling as another user has mentioned. They also make copies of the old Colt Detective Special (also on old Colt tooling) and manufacture M16 rifles and the M60 MG for the Philippine military under license. They also currently manufacture the old M3 "Grease Gun" SMG, mainly for use as a suppressor platform used by Philippine military SpecOps. They even made the bolt-action and semiauto .22 rifles that used to be imported into the US under the "Squires-Bingham" brand name. They make a 10/22 clone that is imported into Canada but not the US.
RIA is one of several companies importing them, and the Philippine 1911s can be found under several brand names in the US--Citadel, Shooters Arms, etc.
As others mentioned they range from a little rough to very rough cosmetically, and customer service varies. RIA happens to have decent customer service. And their guns usually work. I am pondering getting one of their fullsize 1911s in 9mm as a range toy. I examined one and found it had a ramped barrel and what appeared to have a fully supported chamber, not part of the original 1911 design.
I have a Citadel, which is made over there as well, great gun, a little rough, but it’s been near 100% reliable
Flip servicemen shit on Philippine-American servicemen especially when they try to pretend that they're local.
Everytime there are PR bullshit exercises we bring along Pinoy marines, Pinoy sailors, Pinoy soldiers, airmen, etc. and the actual Pinoy servicemen and women treat them like hot garbage and with disdain.
>They also currently manufacture the old M3 "Grease Gun" SMG, mainly for use as a suppressor platform used by Philippine military SpecOps.
Interesting.
Always loved the grease gun, they should make a comeback
>too poor to afford MP5s or MP7s
Oh. Elisco Machine & Tool also now manufactures a CZ75 clone, in both 9mm and .22 TCM. RIA is the importer. They call it the "MAPP" and several vendors have them on Gunbroker right now.
MP5s are spendy, I guess. Supposedly Philippine Army Rangers like them. .45 ACP suppresses really well.
hell of a trip
based and digitpilled
Grease Gun in .22 TCM? [Y]/[N]
> Phyber Passed 1911
FUND IT
I've seen Security Guards in armored cars have MP5s, what's the military's excuse?
>work at RIA sweatshops by day
>work at home making clones by night
looks like a fine life to me
Terrorists groups in the Philippines have their own gunsmiths. There's no need to bother mom and pop gunsmiths.
They are responsible for the atrocity known a the "Barrit" used by the Moro rebels.
Those are all homemade?
I wonder how often they a-splode. The pressures the .50 BMG runs at ain't no joke, and multiply 60,000 PSI times the surface area of that enormous case head.
I can't imagine they have any kind of real proof-testing capability or even much in the way of heat treatment.
Whoever builds these are either brave or stupid. That goes double for whoever they get to shoot them.
I will also guess those are cheap Chinese scopes diverted from a shipment for Wal-Mart affixed to them.
I wonder why they're building 1911s in that shop. They take a fair amount of machining. There's probably other pistol designs that take less machine work but can perform as well as those do.
Because that gun has won more wars than any other, and is the ultimate in stoppin powah.
It's probably because it's a design that they're familiar with; same reason why Tokarevs (by way of Russia and China) are popular for clones in Khyber Pass.
>implying the 1911 designed by John Moses Browning wasn't the reason we won world war 2
The 1911 takes a lot of time to build but it's something that can be made with very simple tools and was always intended to be a hand fit item anyway so the design lends its self to small shop builds.
>They also make copies of the old Colt Detective Special (also on old Colt tooling)
I don't suppose these are being imported to the US?
I've seen one in a display at a certain mall, the sergeant on the desk claimed that these things have shitty range and the scopes barely work.
Terrorists employ them in much shorter ranges where they can actually hit someone, getting hit by one means that you're losing a limb or you're dead instantly.
That thing also uses standard .50 cal rounds and do not require match grade ammo unlike real anti-materiel rifles. He claimed the barrels have a really short life but there are instances where they've captured one that is all worn out and shit but it somehow still works.
These terrorists also do knockoff Picatinny rails now.
why not just buy Chinese?
It's probably a stock photo of a gunsmith. You don't think these greedy fucks would actually pay to send a cameraman halfway around the world, when they can have an intern type "omg guns r bad :(" without ever leaving the office, do you?
Duterte may be a Beijing puppet but the rest of the Philippine military and civilian populace wouldn't dare touch Chinkshit.
Yes, actually. There's a 2" snubby and a 4", both copies of the old Detective Special/Police Positive. See image.
They're kind of rough, and I wouldn't shoot much +P out of them, but they're cheap "truck guns."
>They take a fair amount of machining
The Pinos love 1911s, it's pretty much their national pistol.
The locals avoid having to do complex machining operations such as broaching magazine wells and milling shit by making the slides and frames from multiple smaller pieces of sheet steel which are then welded or brazed together. These pistols are almost entirely made with hand tools, and the only machine tools most of these jungle workshops have are drill presses, which are often hand-cranked.
They also make amazing shotguns with A E S T H E T I C heat shields
YES YES YES YES YES!
Japan's great. Watch your wallet in the Flippines.
>cambodian and mexican
That's literally what flips are
Why does the MILF even bother.
>I can't imagine they have any kind of real proof-testing capability
You don't really know much about guns than user. A proof test is just shooting a proof load then inspecting for damage. Any competent reloader should be able to work up a proof load, and dye check kits are a diamond dozen.
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.
Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
sou-ka
...okay, now I'm impressed.
Because I am white. I belong in white countries. I do like Duterte though, seems like a cool place to visit.
It's a copypasta.
Dude still shoulda known that proof testing is retard tier easy.
Manufactured by Armscor in Marikina, Philippines. I've had chances to shoot my brother in law's ghost gun and it is pretty decent. I'm not gonna lie. If I retired in a place like that I'd totally buy one.
Duterte is a hard ass and he ain't gonna take shit. That being said I didn't like Manila because it had Chinese levels of pollution but the outlying small cities and resorts were damn nice.
>proof testing
>retard tier easy
Mmkay. You're a guy in a grass hut who makes old pieces of scrap metal into guns, using a length of stolen railroad rail as an anvil and a bunch of old files. You have been told "we want you to proof test these rifles you made us, to prove it's safe to fire them." Bonus points if you're out in the Mindanao boondocks where electricity and running water aren't even rumors, and the local police and army are looking for you. Part of the game here is that you don't have access to a PC with Quickload installed on it, nor do you know exactly what kind of powder is loaded in the ammo normally used in these rifles, nor how much. Maybe you can't even read or write.
What kind of powder do you put in the proof loads, and how much do you use? Do you use the normal bullet that is used in the ammunition for these, or do you use something heavier, like real arsenals usually do? How do you measure the pressures they are creating to be sure they are actually generating more pressure than normal ammunition, without being so high in pressure they cause the firearm being tested to grenade regardless of its quality? How do you do this in a testable, repeatable manner, without which your "proof test" doesn't prove anything?
I reload as a hobby. And I'd have to do a lot of research--and I'd still want to fire the "proof load" with a string, from behind a brick wall.
I pass very easily for entirely white and I'm half, but that's largely because I don't go outside much (read: at all).
If I remember right, an Army officer talked about how unreliable those homemade barrets were. They test fired some that were seized during the MILF conflict back in 2001, they were inaccurate and the barrel would warp after only a couple shots.
Elliot Rodger, is that you?
>and I'd still want to fire the "proof load" with a string, from behind a brick wall.
no shit retard, thats how its been done since the 1700's
obviously if they can get ammo for the rifles then part of you supplying them would be them supplying you with the ammo they plan on using. From there you need to reverse engineer the ammo to find the bullet and charge weights. Then just run a series up to about a 25% overload or stop at a compressed load. Run them up slowly (eg 1% at a time) and inspect the bolt/case each time. Repeated overloads may fatigue the lugs on your test bolt, but a competent metal smith can spot that from 1st cycle yield. Your "proof load" should be the one that at least causes heavy damage to the case but not the rifle.
Not perfect, but with your nigger rigged bullshit restrictions (hurrdurr hows you gon du this if yous illeterate) it would be good enough.forget about matching up to some 1st world protocol, It's retarded to even mention that.
And yes, I realize that charge weight and max pressure are not correlated linearly.
Once you have a proof load that seems to work you just make more from your scavenged components to test the rest of the rifles.
As for your physical security while testing, let the rebels handle it.
>but a competent metal smith can spot that from 1st cycle yield.
Ah, yes, our competent metallurgist who lives in a grass hut in the middle of the jungle on Luzon fifty miles from the nearest paved road.
Tell me more of how he measures pressures and how he can tell what's safe and what isn't.
Disgusting tropical island weather and it's a shithole. A 2 for 1 deal I don't want any part of.
Man, that actually hurt a little
I do my best. :D
You seem to be confusing pressure testing with failure analysis. Our theoretical 3rd world man doesn't care about hitting a specific pressure. His science is purely the empirical. If a cartridge can be made up which destroys the brass but does not damage the gun, Then any gun capable of shooting such a cartridge is safe to shoot with a normal cartridge.
What part of this is too complicated for you to understand?
And why do you keep whining about making some jungle shit fit 1st world testing protocol? Obviously moving the goal posts when you have already proven yourself an idiot is laughably childish.
I would unironically love a seafrican 1911
>MILF conflict
hmmm
does this conflict involve my penis?
very nice looking user
no need to move there because the filipinos will rule the world in the future