>So, before I head over to Jow Forumsredneckrevolt and Jow ForumsSocialistRA, I figured I will start here with the 29k readers who might be able to provide me some helpful answers.Here's the change-my-mind premise: Every time you buy a firearm, ammunition or accessories, you're giving your money to an industry that supports the NRA, the Orange Man, and by extension, a veritable right-wing Russian takeover (or at least disruption) of our democracy, and a whole lot of things I don't particularly like very much. I think we all know the profits from Sig Sauer or Glock or Remington or Winchester or Colt or Federal or American Eagle, or any manufacturer basically directly supports and provides more money to interests I am directly opposed to. So what's the solution to this problem? Buy used firearms? Sure. But then you're still supporting a shop owner that is going to go vote for Trump and use his money to help the NRA destroy our democracy. This same problem extends to going to ranges as well. There's got to be solutions to this problem. Maybe there's someone out there who can suggest companies and shops that make/sell/service firearms that suck less than others. I mean, I'd take a shop owner that just doesn't like Trump much over the typical main-stream gun culture shop owner. So what do you all think about this? I'm just not sure this is a situation that has a good solution, but hopefully I'm wrong and someone will list a ton of companies that suck less than others. My apologies if there's already an FAQ on this somewhere that I missed.
Go to Jow Forums liberalgunowners and see what you can find, also post grabber memes
Is there a single Dem candidate who doesn't support an AWB? Even Bernie cucked out. Also the NRA has no problems supporting Dems, they used to support a lot. Problem is they're all grabbers now.
John Wood
>people fall for the """""""""""progun""""""""" leftist meme Every Marxist regime has had draconian gun laws.
Connor Hill
>reddit link in OP Who fucking cares
Blake Jenkins
No, all the dems are anti gun and the republicans are cucks.
Ayden Moore
Considering it's a plank on the DNC platform, I don't believe they have a choice any longer.
Colton Gutierrez
His teeth.
Camden Richardson
>even bernie cucked out You can't "cuck out" if in reality you were always 'cucked in'
Ethan Anderson
Anarchists tend to be pro gun but the more I read about them the less they seem to be a leftist ideology, how is being against authoritarianism, pro liberty and putting the power into the people’s hand and trusting them with so they can voluntarily work with each other if they wish left wing? Arent left wingers against that and for collectivism and socializing the shit out of everything?
Whatever dude, they may look silly to me, but I'll take allies on this cause where I can get them. Besides, it's not like the left has been historically uniformly grabbers.
Also, that guy whining about the NRA is absolutely retarded. They're single issue, the only political incentive they produce is to be pro-gun rights. It has nothing to do with them that the left is by and large avowed grabbers such that any defection on the issue, ie a dem pivoting progun and getting NRA funding, is political suicide. So if they have anyone to be mad at, it's their fellow leftists. But in reality they should be happy that they have a political party that they tend to agree with on *most* issues.
You can piss on their progressive views, but I can't think of a quicker way to get a voter to cross the aisle than taking away their property, guns, land, or otherwise. I wish every Democrat in the country would suddenly buy an AR and a double stack pistol today.
Luis Bennett
They never will though, it's not that they dont trust other people with guns, its that they dont trust themselves.
Ryan Wood
>the less they seem to be a leftist ideology Because min-anarchists excepted, they've traditionally been against the concept of private property, and that's a bedrock concept of any conservative movement today.
Connor Richardson
They’re against private property which requires authoritarianism. They’re retarded and there is no arguing with them.
Aiden Johnson
anyone have any grabber smuggies?
David Garcia
>But then you're still supporting a shop owner that is going to go vote for Trump and use his money to help the NRA destroy our democracy. This guy is literally advocating for political apartheid. The level of myopia is unbelievable.
Jeremiah Rogers
they tend to support some form of healthcare and are more accepting of minority groups
Levi Ward
They are only for guns to fight their retarded revolutions.
Caleb Anderson
And you will be backstabbed you retard. They will vote for gun grabbers, and advocate for "muh reasonable laws" Never ally with a traitor retard
Jeremiah Bennett
I don’t. We need to have all the guns. They’ll never come around on this one issue. I don’t want future grabbers armed against us. We have the monopoly. Let’s keep it that way
Aiden Thomas
This
Jackson Reed
As long as you uphold gun rights you're fine by me.
Liam Jackson
I know I’m gonna stir the shit out of this pot but all the literature I’ve read about them says they’re cool with personal property and being able to defend it. Their definition of private property is a bit wonky tho
But wouldn’t that go against the whole ideal of free association and liberty? Unless a group of people do it voluntarily together like those old fraternities from back in the day, anything else doesn’t seem very Anarchist from what’s above read.
>could be those “Anarchists” calling for gibs aren’t anarchists at all
Isaiah Butler
>"at least i have the constitution" based civnat enters the thread
Dominic Cox
>upholds gun rights >continues to vote for people who want to ban guns
Julian Phillips
thats literally what a fudd is and theyre unpopular with everyone right or left
Thomas Moore
>I don’t want future grabbers armed against us. If they ever use the lever of the state to disarm the populace, they won't be using a single fucking privately owned AR15 to do it. We'll be staring down the business end of city issued police patrol rifles.
you can vote for pro gun candidates but support liberal policies genius
Juan Powell
Because it always ends the same way.
Parker Brooks
There are zero liberal policies that any sane person should support, so either way you're trash and belong in a body heap
Kevin Cruz
> pro gun > progressive Damn near mutually exclusive nation wide
Liam Powell
They will buy them, take ours, and then turn theirs in.
Carson Rogers
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Liam Martinez
>zero liberal policies The ROI on the war on drugs is shit, user. And civil forfeiture is completely unconstitutional, despite what the SCOTUS has said.
Joshua Campbell
The literature is irrelevant, in practice they oppose private property. It's all leftist taqiya.
Cooper Carter
Lol Democrats want the abolishment of the 1st and 2nd Amemdments along with open borders. If you vote for them as a gun owner you're fucking retarded.
Gavin Hughes
Who the fuck spends money on a good they don't need but then vote to lose it? It's like a gear head voting to outlaw automobiles.