y'all. the US declared Iran's revolutionary guard a terrorist organization. you know the US has been fighting a war on terror for like 18 years right? and it started with straight up JDAMing tora bora and caves and shit? so: what are the military capabilities of Iran? they don't have nukes, yet, maybe. NK does however, and I wouldn't be surprised if they traded equipment with Iran. what would a conflict with Iran look like? vets: will you re-up?
are ya ready Jow Forumsids?
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We have been putting in steps to deal with Iran for awhile now. We have troops in Iraq, Kuwait, afghanistan and could build up our forces in Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan. When the American public is willing we will fuck Iran.
>I just hit the sand, I know I’m in Iran
>We’re gonna kill whose in command
Vet here. Who all there though?
assume that without a false flag on american soil the war in iran will be a half-assed effort that is mostly a gift to the weapons industry (GE, for example, who owns NBC). no coalition, no UN troops, nobody but USA.
t. OP, army vet
>When the American public is willing we will fuck Iran.
You meant to say when the Kikes have managed to brain wash a sufficient number of Goyim?
Because the impetus for this has been coming exclusively from the Jews and their proxies.
What's the point of a trillon dollar military if you don't use it from time to time
>da jooooos!
You are either a chink or a brainlet
But why?
How will Jow Forums react when F-22s and F-35s start shooting down F-14s?
why what? because if we don't fight them over thur we gonna be fightn'em over hurr
And you are a shabbos goy
>could build up our forces in Turkey and Pakistan
Good goy go die for the kikes you loser
Now imagine if Turkey/Iraq/Iran/Pakistan had fully cooperated with each other and played both cold war superpowers in the '80s
The reason is the Iranian military controls or runs most of the economy like a mafia. So if you label them terrorists you can effectively sanction all sectors of Iranian economy.
tl;dr Hey Iranian fucks, Trump isn't giving you millions of dollars like Obama did.
"Good luck, I'm behind seven mountain-ranges."
>just ignore zionist neocon in charge of our foreign policy
>you all just dumb chinks shut up lalalalala can't hear you
It's not just that, we did this. In destabilizing Iraq/Afghanistan, knowing they had weapons flowing in from Iran, and not finishing that, we allowed them to fill the power vacuum we had created. You can blame the Jews if you want, but we barreled headlong right fucking into it. The brass knew. The president knew. We just chose to ignore it, because it had become politically unpopular.
Warmongering mutt.
t. Netanyahu
>When the American public is willing we will fuck Iran
>When the American public is willing we will fuck Iran.
Totally. Iran is my #1 priority. SALT taxes are being raised in my area to pay for the pension of Democrat boomers, and there's an absolute fuckton of third world shit flowing into my area, courtesy of an assortment of non-governmental organizations. I'm busy over here, making a lot of imaginary money working in one of Trump's factories that doesn't exist. Regardless of all of that, I'm ready to fight alongside spic mercenaries and stonk independent black womyn to fight Israel's enemies.
We're not going to war with Iran, at least not any time soon. This is all about kneecapping their military and Iran's economy by placing even more sanctions and possibility of punishment and fines from anyone doing business with them. This move was purely political and it addresses that not only is Iran a state sponsor of terrorism but it's revolutionary guard actively participates in terrorist activities.
If we're going to be sanctioning countries for sponsorship of terrorism, Israel needs to be on that list and we need to sanction ourselves for creating "ISIS."
Alex Jones, pls. The United States did not sanction terrorism. ISIS was created from an offshoot of other terrorist organizations that was too extreme to continue membership with Al Qaeda that happened during the Arab Spring. They were able to seize weapons that were given to the new Iraqi government and al-Maliki went unchecked. They were then given the opportunity through inaction to take hold in Iraq and Syria and spread throughout the region. Do I agree with the actions the US took? No. Did we participate in state-sponsored terrorism? No. We allowed them to come into being from inaction because we wanted Iraq to handle their own business, not active participation. Obama made poor decisions, not evil ones, at least when it came to Iraq.
Like it or not, but ISIS is the direct result of failures by US administration to secure and stabilize the situation in Iraq. None of this ISIS shit would have happened if you faggots weren't so bad at your jobs, retard.
Die for Israel goyim.
>Did we participate in state-sponsored terrorism? No.
If you think other countries do this, but we somehow abstain from this? You're a drooling retard, Sean Hannity. Either way, it's time for someone other than Trump to get elected so we can actually leave the ME.
That's pretty much what I just said. Obama looked back at history and feared providing arms and supplies to rebels like the US did with the Mujaheddin in the 80's before they turned those same weapons and armament against us as Al Al Qaeda. He wanted the Iraqi government and the protestors to come to terms and create a solution for themselves and thought it was best to let them walk on their own. I'm not saying I agree with him, but that's what happened. The US didn't sponsor the creation and spread of ISIS. They didn't sponsor ISIS-led attacks. You can say that the US-led invasion of Iraq and short-sighted, yet well intentioned, implementation of a democracy of that nature in a tribal country like that lead to the void that allowed ISIS to exist, but at least acknowledge the complexities within that and understand that hindsight is always 20/20.
>what would a conflict with Iran look like?
Hopefully we can convince the Israelis to join the fight. We'll provide them with ammo and promise to follow them in.
But then it turns out the ammo we gave them was all duds and we just never show up.
Lmao, you're a brainlet that has no place commenting on thing like this.
Stick with the NFL and their latest nigger picks.
>If you think other countries do this, but we somehow abstain from this?
No, I don't think we do. We have in the past, yes, but we don't provide financial, material, or logistical support to organizations to carry out violent acts of terrorism. I think we operate sometimes in grey areas, but life isn't black and white.
>Either way, it's time for someone other than Trump to get elected so we can actually leave the ME
I personally can't stand Trump, but if you actually think that any other possible presidential hopeful would ever leave the ME you're delusional. Also, isn't just pulling out and creating a void exactly what led to the creation of ISIS? Don't be so short sighted.
Fuck off MIGApede.
I'm surprised that Trump is being pursued for some bogus collusion hoax with Russian when the real collusion and active interference in democracy has come from Israel.
But I guess the Goyim aren't supposed to know.
You've got less hard evidence than Rachel Maddow has on Trump. Give it a rest.
>Because the impetus for this has been coming exclusively from the Jews and their proxies.
Don't forget the Saudis. There's a lot of guilty parties here but I would list KSA as #1 and IL as #2.
>reflexive mouth-foam
He's not entirely wrong. Learn a thing or two about geopolitics or stfu
Guarantee if your God emperor Hitler came back your fat asthmatic shit skinned ass would be one of the first in the gas chamber. Do society a favor and kill yourself. You fucking pol faggots are seriously getting worse than Reddit, a feat I did not think was possible.
>less hard evidence
What? Are you serious nigger?
What's the Russian equivalent to AIPAC?
What is the Russian version of when American congressmen attend a fair organized by donors, and get on stage, with flags of a foreign nation (Israel) waving in the background, and pledge their undying allegiance to Israel?
You fucking joker.
I refuse to believe any human being on planet Earth in the year of our Lord two thousand and nineteen could possibly be this retarded
>muh pol
>I would list KSA as #1 and IL as #2.
Yeah, disagree totally.
Jews in the USA are the elite 1% of the population who are the biggest contributor to both political parties.
The candidate who sucks up to Jews more, WINS, ALWAYS.
Trump won because he got the support of Sheldon Adelson.
White Americans and their votes don't matter one bit, because they are the servant class.
Pic related is the actual owner of the Republican Party and the Trump presidency. Adelson's demands are translated directly into policy by Trump:
1. Move embassy to Jerusalem
2. Long term presence in Al Tanf Syria
Planned: War with Iran, civil war in Lebanon.
>What's the Russian equivalent to AIPAC?
Russian Collusion is a hoax, so are the accusations that Israel controls our government.
>What is the Russian version of when American congressmen attend a fair organized by donors, and get on stage, with flags of a foreign nation (Israel) waving in the background, and pledge their undying allegiance to Israel?
To start, Russia isn't an ally of ours. Second, that fanfare isn't uncommon when we go to any other nation or allied power and pledge our support. The problem I have with you and the way you construct your arguments because it makes true constructive dialogue near impossible. You're not actually looking for a solution, you just wanna scream your hatred for Jews. You don't want to build anything, just destroy. In reality, you're the same as a leftist.
Oh, looks like we got a genuine ZOGbot or one of the JIDF-mods.
Expect the thread to get (((sanitized))) soon.
This is why we hate you. You screaming ass motherfuckers cannot stay on topic.
>hoax, so are the accusations that Israel controls our government.
Not that guy, but wow. How's that winning been coming along? A certain country in the Middle East has certainly been winning, and getting everything they want - even getting complete bipartisan support. We aren't winning though. Need to lay off on the Fox News for a while there.
This represents the inner workings of the blamethejoos brain
Do you really believe this? Why would someone waste one nanosecond of their time on this retarded shit hole website just to "shill"? Do you have any idea how tinfoil hat retarded you sound when you say stupid shit like that?
>so are the accusations that Israel controls our government.
So what again do you call an entity like AIPAC?
What do you think about JINSA? Do you even know what JINSA is? Israel recruits senior military types and gives them consulting roles as long as they advocate for the ZOG.
Does Russia have an entity equivalent to JINSA that penetrates senior US military leadership?
I think you're being delusional as a coping mechanism to how powerless average Americas are, and how much POWER Israel has over you.
But he literally did you trap loving retard. Nobody wants to die for this shit hole country and nobody besides Israel and the zionists want to invade Iran to start nation building again, fuck off.
Oh yeah, another Israel-first dick suck.
Why don't you get your Israeli citizenship and go live there if that's where your loyalty is?
Stupid dumb, Boomer scum.
OP here. doubtful. that literal demonspawn Bolton is in power again. obama gave money to Iran, and now the neocons want to cash in at the federal reserve with a misadventure.
I can totally see Clinton-like airstrikes happening against Iran. Israel might even send some jets.
and all you faggots try to stay on topic. I don't give a shit about your political opinions, I want to hear your scenarios based on knowledge of our and their capabilities and what the public is willing to bear.
>winning
Trump's a dumbass. I'm not quite sure what you mean by winning though because it seems to me that you're being pretty damn myopic in your world view and with what is happening in the United States.
I would say this is on topic. If Israel didn't have the influence that it has on the US, no one here would even know that Iran exist. The only people who would care about Iran would be petroleum countries.
companies*, not countries.
OP again. nah, Iran controls the straight of Hormuz. the country of Iran would matter whether we cared about Israel or not. that waterway is a major shipping lane for petroleum from the gulf states.
Iran is too powerful of a nation to perform Clinton-like air strike and they sponsor too many terrorist organizations all over, not just the Middle East, but the world. It's a political game. I honestly hope that we don't go to war with them, not that I don't think we'd succeed, but it will not be a cake walk like OIF. You're asking for scenarios and I don't believe there will be a scenario that ends in war. I think there will be a lot of posturing from both sides, but neither party benefits in war.
He's programmed to think we all hate Jews on some sort of fundamental religious level, and thus our "opinions" regarding the outsize influence of Israel on the US government must be wrong.
>Denying the Holocaust and demanding it happen for real = Happy Merchant
>Boycott. Divest. Sanction = Sad Merchant.
fair enough. I agree with you fwiw. neither side wants a war, it's just the faggot chickenhawks in DC pushing for cronies and dividends
Which is why I said to petroleum companies. And if we weren't kicking up hornets nest, or funding "moderate rebels" - nothing would happen, except commerce.
Agreed, although I will admit that it is a wild card with Trump but I don't think Congress would ever authorize a declaration of war with Iran. At least not any time soon. Political differences ought to be dealt with political deterrents and resolutions. That said, it doesn't really excite Jow Forums much as many just like to romanticize the idea of war.
>tfw Iran was the first country in the ME to recognize Israel
Tbh, Iran is more of a geopolitical threat to the Saudis. Israel pretty much will just bomb Iranian reactors whenever they want and hope for a regime change. Those that legitimately wants Iran as a country gone are the Sauds.
>petroleum companies
The entire world's economy, including your local economy, runs on petroleum energy. Without that oil you might not even exist. So quit thinking it's only some far-away corporate types that made a deal with the Saudi devil, you and I signed onto that deal as well
This poster is the only one speaking truths here.
The Holohoax never happened.
Yes, we all signed onto protecting poppy fields as well. America runs on opium too you know.
>I don't think Congress would ever authorize a declaration of war with Iran
that's where you're wrong, kiddo. the funding for the war on terror is a continuing resolution that is rubber stamped every year. declaring Iran's military a terrorist organization is a loophole workaround the constitution. it's been this way since the bush years. obama did literally nothing to stop it, despite that being his platform.
>declaring Iran's military a terrorist organization
This didn't happen. IRGC≠The Iranian armed forces
Trump ordered a strike against Syria without congress authorization. What prevents him from ordering a strike like that somewhere in Iran to provoke the war?
>what is Hezbollah
>The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) (Persian: سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی, translit. Sepâh-e Pâsdârân-e Enghelâb-e Eslâmi, lit. 'Army of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution' or Sepâh for short) is a branch of Iran's Armed Forces founded after 1979 Revolution on 22 April 1979[2] by order of Ayatollah Khomeini.[3] Whereas the regular military (or Artesh) defends Iran's borders and maintains internal order, according to the Iranian constitution, the Revolutionary Guard (pasdaran) is intended to protect the country's Islamic Republic system.
Obviously their constitution is not exactly like ours, but IRCG is a military organization under Iranian state command. It is part of their armed forces.
They are a branch of Iranian military just like the regular army.
>It is part of their armed forces
But it isn't. The Iranian armed forces and IRGC are completely separate and you'd have to grasp at a whole bundle of straws to claim they don't sponsor terror.
What terror do they sponsor?
Protip: Hezbollah isn't a terrorist group by any metric.
alright. let's say you're right and they're a secret police who wear uniforms, are commissioned by the government, and have a mission to defend the state. call them secret police if you like. it doesn't change that they have been (rightfully) designated a terrorist supporting organization. i've already conceded they don't have the same title separations like under our US code. now what does your pedantic ass have to say?
i ain't no bandleader, user.
We use the Middle East as one big whetstone for our forces to stay sharp when everyone else is dull from peacetime. Don't be retarded.
No actually.
You're used as the muscle for Israeli foreign policy.
In your opinion, is there anything that isnt the fault of or blamed on Israel?
Fuck the MIC. Fuck America. Fuck the warmongers in Israel. Fuck imperialism. Fuck capitalism. Unironically.
Nope, just this particular aspect of the United States (and maybe a few other things) is 100% Zionist ownership.
We used them in the 2000s invasions
Remember operation praying mantis you guys.
Oh look someone who knows what they are talking about. Seriously don't even bother arguing with these stormfags
Why are you stormfags on this board? I dont even like Jews but I don't use them as a scape goat like how niggers use whitey.
I garuntee I know more than you
>chinks are jew haters
I mean now that you mention it I have never seen a Chinese/Asian jew
They're the only countries that didn't kick out the kikes. Japan allied with Germany and yet took in Jews. China took in Jews and didn't kill them. There's some with Jewish heritage that are in China that didn't even know they were Jews since they were assimilated. Asians like Jews, zen and judaism go together. I still post shit like pic related to my jewish friends though. Hard to hate your friends who get you into bitcoin and cool business deals.
The chinks are trying to delegitimize US actions to the general public using a thought process that used to be popular in the west and still exists on the fringes.
stop trying to rape our language for your pilpul
would support war and regime change for Iran, probably to whoever supported US (the shah?) before islamic revolution.
also ignore anti-israel LARP posting white niggers, why cant you faggots stay in your containment board?
>boy it sure is retarded niggers say whites are the source of all their problems! #notall
>jews are the source of all our problems
any subhuman that can’t understand why Israel is better than literally every Middle East nation or why Jews are generally successful in life shouldn’t be posting. fuck sub 90 avg IQ cousin fucking towel heads forever
and decent white and Christian man knows it’s in our blood to fight the pernicious middle eastern roaches
The best way of dealing with Iran is to stack the alliance system so that Iran has to fight in its most expensive format so that when they are exhausted they will not be capable of being athreat. They're going to want to build an alliance with other Farsi speaking groups and Afghanistan has a notoriously weak government. We hand that off to them. Goodbye and good luck.
If the US stops bribing Pakistan their government defaults to aggression against India. The Indians are pathetic but they outnumber the Pakis. Afghanistan does not recognize the Durand line and itll take a new skirmish to properly demarkate a border. Once that flank is covered Iran will attempt to split Iraq or Azerbaijan into its sphere of influence. Getting a source of flat easily irrigated land is probably more important so its more likely Iraq will be swallowed.
Now this is when the US turns to the Arab alliance and tells them that if they want to keep their soverignty they will need to defend it themselves using only US armaments. The rest of the world wont like this but the US is energy independant now and the alliance is stacked just enough so that they're forced into battles of attrition. Afghanistan wont exist except as a tributary but Iran will no longer be able to challenge the world order.