Stinger/knucks

fuck off nogunz eurocuck

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If it braces your fist and provides a point to focus force on it must help somewhat.. but holy shit lol. That shit looks like a Klingon version of brass knuckles. You can do just as well or better with a mini-maglight or a solid pen.

the kind of people that would actually carry that are the same ones that can't throw a quality punch to begin with and they'll just hurt themselves. It's a piece of plastic that just looks useful.

These things are stupid yes, but youre an absolute retard for comparing contact with wood to be similar to the contact of flesh. No wonder you bought a stupid gimmick.

Better than nothing to punch with. I use this as a key chain.

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I need some links

that looks like a penis

dude, punching wood is painful no matter what.

i've worked 8 years as a bouncer at nightclubs and this thing looks useless. conclusion: toy.

just get a kubotan if you want something discreet to carry that gives your punches more power, or glass sand gloves. or brass knuckles, even though those are pretty much overkill if you know how to punch.

Anyone ever punch someone with one of these? Or any info about their effectiveness?

I read somewhere that those are illegal to use. You can buy it, you can own it, but if you punch someone with it it's a big deal.

fucking retarded, just think about it. it wouldn't do shit. punching someone without it would probably do more damage.

It was a joke.

Oh man, imagine this in a fight.
Dayquil tries to pick a fight and gets his ass knocked out. Pull out this shit and steal his asshole. Glorious.

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>wut is hand shock
a plastic cock you hold in your hand that puts all force and vibration directly into your palm and fingers is a bad design. Would suck ass punching someone, similar to how a pair of brass knuckles with round holes will unironically break your fucking fingers.

Looks dumb as shit and would most likely be painful as hell if you hit something solid. Not only that good luck with getting charged in most places, no doubt that will be seen exactly the same as a brass knuckle.

>t h i s
first thought

Had a couple years ago. Pretty cool. James Keating also designed the Spyderco chinook series

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Since I can legally use weapons to defend myself where I live (I have CCP) and it's not specifically against the law I figure if I ever have to use it I'll lawyer up. Face it if the cops want to throw you in jail they can. Rather than get hurt badly I'll take my chances in court rather than a ER.

I think there are some limitations on what you can use to defend yourself. I don't think brass knuckles suddenly become legal once you get your CCP. Do what you want though, I just really can't stand all of these gimmick toys on a personal level.

>I'll take my chances in court rather than a ER.
>not going to the ER after having your tactical buttplug shoved up your ass in what will most likely be characterized as mutual combat and get you sued by "your" victim who kicks your ass.

if you can punch them, you can shoot them.

>if you can punch them, you can shoot them.
uhh what? There's a clear distinction in most law between non-lethal and lethal force.

And you're not cleared to use non-lethal force unless you're cleared to use lethal force.

You must be a woman. Tits or gtfo.

when you're the aggressor
for prosecution

if someone is attacking you, or threatening to attack you with intent, and you are in a state with any semblance of proper self defense laws, their life if forfeit.

just fucking shoot them. some prissy brass knuckle simulator is worthless.
>if you're going to carry a gay self defense keychain carry a knife
>if you're going to carry a knife for self defense carry a gun
>if you're going to carry a gun, shoot the motherfucker

Mall ninja bullshit just like brass knuckles.

It's essentially a plastic version of the Thorn used by French Apache, a group of Parisian gangsters whose heyday was in the early 1900s.

>All the weapons used by the Apaches in Paris are unique, but none are more ingenious than these curious rings and the device known as the “thorn punch”. The latter, held as shown in the illustration and delivered with a hard, straight blow, would drop a man as if hit by a sledge. The rings, however, are more subtle, as they appear to be nothing more than ordinary finger adornments with the exaggerated settings or heads often worn by fad extremists, but hidden within the hand is an extension. This rests against the palm when the fist is doubled and adds much force to the blow.
From Popular Mechanics circa 1911.

The Stinger is like $5 anyways so just buy it and try it out.

>similar to how a pair of brass knuckles with round holes will unironically break your fucking fingers
That's because knuckles with round holes weren't meant to be punched straight on, but for raking and cutting moves, hence the name "knuckleduster".

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>a plastic cock you hold in your hand that puts all force and vibration directly into your palm and fingers is a bad design
Where do you think the force is supposed to go?

Hitting wood would have been painful regardless, but it would've hurt a lot more without the plastic buttblug

Use of defensive force requires that it be proportional, time-bound, that you're not the aggressor, and that it's in response to the imminent grievous bodily injury or death.
If you're defending yourself legally, using one of these in a situation in which a reasonable person of the jury would not believe grievous bodily injury or death is imminent will get you in trouble because A) you just escalated a situation from fists to weapons and B) the force is not proportional.
If you're using one of these in a situation in which a reasonable person of the jury WOULD believe grievous bodily injury or death is imminent, you're already cleared to use weapons and may as well just use a fucking gun.
For example, if a guy slaps you for talking to his girl, you're absolutely not okay to respond by nailing him in the face with one of those plastic shits. However if a guy pulls out a 2X4 from his trunk to beat you with for talking to his girl, you might as well just use a gun because a reasonable person would believe he's trying to do you grave bodily harm or kill you.
In any situation where you can legally defend the use of one of those stupid fucking things, you can legally defend the use of a gun.

at best it'll do the same thing as a fistload while also getting you buttfucked by the cops if you lay out someone in a fist fight.

>Use of defensive force requires that it be proportiona
not if you're in the land of the free cuck

if you bring a fist to a gunfight you're going to have a bad time. carry a gun.

This is a typical problem with milquetoast fags and women regarding self defense. there is no proportional
>I want to carry a taser, you got one of those ones that shoots out that was discontinued because it falls into the greyest of areas of self defense law because its a pain compliance tool that escalates an altercation to lethal force tier.
buy a gun
>you got any gay fistload brass knuckle thing that totes won't be considered a pair of knuckledusters if I get stopped by the cops without a concealed weapon permit
buy a gun
>I'm a 5'2" woman and I want a knife for self defense what do you recommend
a gun

move to a state that respects your basic rights a citizen, like the right to not have to enter mutual combat or run away from a crack head out to murder you until you establish a 4 step retreat that ironically makes self defense premeditated.

>I'm going to kick your ass+forward movement to do so
bullet to the T zone. Thats it. shoot them. You have no duty to be the victim of battery, you are a citizen. If in your locality this isn't legal, then what are you?

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Ah, the old anti-face fist sabot.

That's kinda funny. I use to have a friend that would freak out about fighting people with big rings thinking he was going to get cut up. Once I got money I started wearing comically big rings that look like they'd hurt but would probably fuck my hand up more punching someone. It's more to let you know I can afford to probably do worse things than punch you rather than a duster.
Pretty clever of them to disguise it to look like something gaudy I'd honestly expect a sucker punch from that a bit less.

>A brother got ill and tried to snatch a fat cable. I stepped back, like it wasn't no thing. Punched him in the jaw with the fat gold ring

did you even read my post beyond the first comma, dickweed?
I was telling them to carry a gun, because in any situation where you're free to use deadly defensive force (which includes even little plastic keychains, knucks, and tasers) you're clear to use a firearm, which is exponentially more effective
And yes, self-defense law in the US requires proportionality of force, but not in the way people think. Deadly and non-deadly force are binary and not a continuum.

>it's binary
yes, in that if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.

Anything less and it's just some cunt pepper spraying someone or a pussy with a kitty "keychain" assaulting someone, thinking somehow it isn't aggravated assault-assault with a deadly weapon-attempted murder on the criminal spectrum.

Yeah I suppose that's fair, he was a bit of a chain snatcher at one point.

I knew a guy who punched someone with a big ring on and the ring bent onto his finger so he couldn't get it off.

uh, you're palming the thing, so punching it wouldn't be comparable. palming wood vs palming that thing into wood, that hting will definitely hurt more because the force is spread over a lower surface area

exactly
it seems like a good way to get degloved during a fight.
imagine your ring getting hooked on a fencepost or bollard and some guy trying with all his might to drag you to the ground

>yes, in that if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.
No, not if you wouldn't reasonably fear for your life. If a naked midget says "I'm gonna kill you!" and tackles your leg, you cannot just light him up. The jury will decide that, but you probably can't.

>reductio ad absurdum.jpg

how about tyrone when he dead sprints at you and the toxicology report finds he's on crack

or when a 6'4" guy in biker leathers happens to have a concealed fixed blade

or when the panhandler who grabs your sleeve has a gas station pocket knife

or when the strong arm robber is (((only))) your size and closes the 15 yard gap for your cellphone and wallet.

T zone
kill them

live in a better state. there is no proportion force for free men.

>how about a bunch of times it's clearly ok to shoot someone?
That doesn't mean that your statement wasn't reductive. Reduction to absurdity is a logical tool, not a logical fallacy.
>yes, in that if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.
If your seven year old nephew(I know you don't have kids, you're too stupid to) is attacking you, YOU ARE NOT CLEARED TO KILL HIM.

If your 70lb grandma is attacking you during a dementia fit, and has no weapons, YOU ARE NOT CLEARED TO KILL HER.

ah, the Dahmer method of self-defense

Who do you think you're defending yourself against with that shit? He said you're not literally always cleared to kill someone if you're being attacked, not that "you should only be able to shoot someone who's bigger than you"

My daddy taught me not to be ashamed of our cocks.

>I am going to keep stating nonsequitor extremes because I'm BTFO on the fact that any time you are legally allowed to respond with force you can kill the person attacking you

>any time you are legally allowed to respond with force you can kill the person attacking you
>>it's binary
>yes, in that if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.
>Anything less and it's just some cunt pepper spraying someone or a pussy with a kitty "keychain" assaulting someone, thinking somehow it isn't aggravated assault-assault with a deadly weapon-attempted murder on the criminal spectrum.
>ctrl f "legally allowed to respond with force"
uh, no, you said
>yes, in that if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.
>if you're being attacked you can commit justifiable homicide. full stop.
>full stop.
>wah i was imprecise with my language while telling someone else they're full of shit and someone called me out on my statement being fucking stupid as a consequence!
>nonsequitor extremes
>kid getting angry and physical
>this is extreme and unbelievable because my family/minder does not allow me around children due to my autism

>I'm BTFO on the fact that any time you are legally allowed to respond with force you can kill the person attacking you
wait, hold up, who the actual fuck do you think I am, you retard?

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>REEEEE diction and hyperbole!
no one is going to gun down a midget humping your leg dumbass

Why are eurocucks even allowed on Jow Forums.
You all should be range banned

>says something stupid
>gets stupid when someone points it out
K.

>'specially when they're such good size 'n all.

>be a cuck who lives in a state with a duty to retreat
>get btfo

Funny you should mention that, another guy I knew did that only not in a fight. He jumped up and slapped the ceiling only the ring got caught on an air vent and stayed put while he came back down to the ground. I don't fuck with rings anymore.

you should leave, nothing posted here is legal in your country

>be a fucking moron even after proven wrong

Just wear rings that fit and don't do stupid unnecessary things?

>responding to two dumbasses? jokes on you, I was only half of the retardation

if you can use nonlethal self defense, you can use lethal self defense. Stay mad m8

and buy a gun. your kitty keychain from budk is the same level of escalation.

Fuck you bitch don't tell me how to live.

You're not very good at this thing called "anonymous" that we have on Jow Forums. I showed you mine, now you show me yours.
>inb4 cowboy adhom
Now, let me walk you through the content of this post that you replied to and somehow ignored.

It's a screenshot of which shows you that one of the quoted posts, , is mine.
the post, which is mine, , says:
>And you're not cleared to use non-lethal force unless you're cleared to use lethal force.
This might be worded in a confusing way for you, so let me rephrase it.
>and you're only cleared to use non-lethal force if you're also cleared to use lethal force
Which is why in , the post which you ignored(twice, somehow?) I asked
>who the actual fuck do you think I am, you retard?

You might've heard this before, might not've. Lurk moar.

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Looks like Aku’s dick. Also nice trips.

>you spurn me, random dumbass with a uberti-cimmaron hipster revolver and SOG cuck knife?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
seriously that whole brand of pocket knife is trash. Upgrade to literally anything else m8.

>EDC is a SAA and pocket watch
wewlad
you thought this would make you look tough on the internet?

Sorry I triggered you while shutting down the initial idiot who lives in a cuckstate where you have to be backed into a corner and unable to run away to utilize the human right of self defense. Not that any nonlethal self defense option is legal for him anyway, since if you can legally use some gay plastic knuckles you are also legal for justifiable homicide.

>adhoms
>triggered
So you can't identify anons by the way they type, or even their arguments(because:), you can't read, and you can't just say "oh lol i was a dumbass"
>look tough
>and buy a gun. your kitty keychain from budk is the same level of escalation.
>here's my gun, now show me yours
>LOL TOUGH GUY FAG
Show me, noguns. This is just a picture I already had, for the dumbass EDC thread, so that I can farm (You)s over my apparently hip(since read dead, or because you think it's different and/or inferior?) revolver. Never had someone complain about the knife, but I've never had someone that desperate to have something negative to say.

SOG has a lifetime warrantee on their products, without proof of purchase, and that knife is the length I want for my pants pocket. I keep my knives-as-weapons in my jacket pockets and on my belt, when I carry them. Or is it a cuck knife because SOG is a cuck company because they're in WA? Or because I missed some anti-gun shit that they said?

Like, do you have a reason why "upgrading" to a kershaw would be a good fucking idea?

>he uses a 2.5" lockback as a "Knives-as-weapons" knife
physically cringing

>u ignored me but addressed my faggotry with a post for someone else who is btfo enough to exit the thread? notice me senpai!

>SAA as edc
in what universe did you think this was a flex? should I post my 1858 copy as a period accurate hominid to your "everyday carry" cowboy revolver?
>SOG warranty
so does benchmade, microtech, H&K, buck, kershaw, literally any company with a "we stand by our products" policy. They're shit knives. the one you own is ok because it's grind makes it an ok EDC penknife for package opening and such, but the center pin loosens up like a motherfucker and the lockback is shitty. Out the box sharpness and grind is it's only pro's, but the steel quality and grind also mean it's shit for most purposes.

>muh knife
organs are on average ~3" in, unless you hit an artery with your babbys first flipknife all you've done is commit aggravated assault against the wounded man who murdered you in self defense (and not telling anyone about trying to strongarm your wallet and cellphone out of you.)

>he uses a 2.5" lockback as a "Knives-as-weapons" knife
>physically cringing
I'm not even reading or responding to the rest of your post, you literally cannot fucking read.>and that knife is the length I want for my pants pocket. I keep my knives-as-weapons in my jacket pockets and on my belt, when I carry them.
>pants pocket
>opening packages
>mention that I do carry other knives in my jacket
>lol so u carry that to kill someone
Fucking, dude, stop drinking before you shitpost. If you're sober, take a nap. If you're well rested, you're too stupid to be here. Every conversation you have with anyone here is based on your reading comprehension, and you don't have it right now.

Also I still don't see a gun. Yours is going to have to have a shoe on its head, since you've gone so long without posting one that it's suspicious as shit.

>should I post my 1858 copy as a period accurate hominid
Stop trying to sound smart, hominidae is the family of apes we're in. I don't know what you were trying to say, but you look a lot stupider than the moron who carries a single action revolver in 2019.

>he carries multiple knives
ok school shooteranon

opsec nigga, this isn't 2009 Jow Forums anymore. I own more nuggets than you have knives

wewlad you're assblasted

>u carry a small knife? dont u know u cant kill someone with that?
>its not for that, if I carry a knife as a weapon it goes on my belt or in my jacket
>lmao school shooter
KK, noguns. Good deal. Learn to read before you try to... whatever the fuck you're trying to do.
I've probably shot more rounds through this than you've shot at all, and I'm fully confident in 135gr XD @>1400FPS.

>opsec
as you accuse someone of being a larper for carrying a knife in his jacket pocket

>he actually carries a SAA clone as a self defense gun
first off
>implying

but mostly top fucking kek you hipster faggot

>confirms he carries multiple knives for both edc and implied self defense
like pottery

you're that mad that I have a knife in my pocket in case my draw is obstructed or a dog grabs my arm? or you're mad that I don't open boxes with my shitty OTF dagger? I'd defend my choice in gun, like I did to , but you're a noguns and I don't have to.

that thing could be in .44mag for all you know
what if I'm also a noguns?

You didn't call someone else noguns then refuse to either nut up or shut up, so I don't automatically assume you to be.

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>pocket watch
I also carry a pocketwatch; I hate the way wristwatches feel, and anyone who's so stupid they think "I have a phone, I don't need a watch" deserves to have that shit snatched

I'll humor your second ragepost
>I carry an edc knife that magically is a good self defense option, steak knife, zip tie cutter, letter opener, etc. etc. mainly for everything besides the first one.
>not multiple knives for different purposes like a 17 year old autist with chain pants
>he's trained extensively in doggo defense drills in case his normal pocket knife is obstructed and his jacket jutsu pocket katana will save him
you probably don't even own a cheap switchblade because of cuckstate laws
>it could be .44 mag
it isn't, because I know. git gud. that is a basic bitch uberti in either .357 or .45lc.

>nogunz
Post a non hipster fun and I'll do so in turn. I get the feeling you only own a SAA clone and nothing else, because jesus christ literally anything is better for a EDC thread Epeen measure. Even a taurus. Or a cobra. I'll drop some of my equally hipster arms like a VZ58 or one of those neato Star BMs that have entered the surplus market.

It's just hard to get to wristwatches through a jacket buttoned down over long gloves, I wear a wristwatch during the summer.

>you probably don't even own a cheap switchblade because of cuckstate laws

>you should own many handguns, which are hundreds of dollars, but only one knife, when all of your knives put together aren't as much as the handgun you chose
I also have a muzzleloader, and you don't get to see it.
>anything is better
I started on a single action when I was 7 or 8, and I never liked autoloaders. I don't like double action. I don't give a shit if you think I have the gun for attention, and I do enjoy retards like you that get uppity over it.
>basic bitch .357
Stupid
>basic bitch .45lc
Why don't you tell me what you think about .45 colt(which it is, because I like it that way) based on the shitty cowboy loads you're aware of?

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lol post literally any gun at all you colossal faggot, you're literally judging someone's knife the way a girl in high school judges someone's shoes right now. get back to fucking r*ddit or tumblr or whatever shithole you crawled out of
gauntlets are shit, just add an undershirt if it's that cold

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>I carry an edc knife that magically is a good self defense option, steak knife, zip tie cutter, letter opener, etc. etc. mainly for everything besides the first one.
You don't. For sure. It doesn't exist. Anything long enough to be good for self defense(lol organs at 3" you fucking retard the takedown mecahnism is BLEEDOUT) is too long to be GOOD as a utility knife.

This is why soldiers don't carry eks

>This is why soldiers don't carry eks
to open MREs*

>fake OTF
>pink butterfly knife and flashlight
oof
>I have trained the SSA extensively, behold my SSA stand!
>caliber coping
>girl in highschool
>pink knife
ok samefag
>it doesn't exist
a 3"+ blade flick knife with a hollow grind and spear point doesn't exist?
damn, I should tell the knife in my pocket I guess.

this
they literally carry the CRKT M16

you are a hipster newfag buddy

>a 3"+ blade flick knife with a hollow grind and spear point doesn't exist?
>damn, I should tell the knife in my pocket I guess.
3" is not "good" for a weapon, which is why the ek isn't a 3" knife. you're a fucking retard if you think a 3" knife is good enough for self defense, and I'd LOVE to get in a knife fight with you
>he thinks his f-16 is fake
>pic related
>says "this" to a post telling him "soldiers don't carry combat knives as utility knives, your knife is not a combat knife"

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this was me reading that

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Nothing you just said to me is valuable, except the phenomenally stupid thing.
>bladehq.com/cat--F-16--2969
>literal double action OTF
>it's fake?
>guess I should tell that to the knife in my pocket
>haha u accuse me of acting like a girl in high school whiel I DONT LIKE THE COLOR OF YOUR KNIFE U FAGGOT
I mean, he's right. You sound like a "mean girl," except nobody's laughing with you.
And then you basically agreed with him that soldiers don't carry eks because they're combat knives that aren't suitable for opening MREs. Literally a screwdriver sharpened on concrete is a better weapon that will cause more bleedout than your 3" box opener. Literally fucking a quarter inch longer than my box cutter, you fucking retard, are you serious?

>self defense folder

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>he carries some coldstealfag giant knife as his backup knife fighting EDC
is it the pink butterfly knife? The one with the steel quality to be butterknife sharp? I'm sure you've extensively studied the blade to know how to use it too.

Do you own a non meme gun?
honestly I almost bought a texasjack cartridge 1858, but as a meme. cowboy guns are cool but I decided $700 is a bit rich for cool. And I own enough surplus 20th century guns to cover the whole edc truck carry thing regarding edc. A basic bitch

my only bad

it looks like a cheap chinese slidelock (((switchblade))) instead of a cheap chinese actual OTF. Although orange is almost as gay as pink regarding anodizing color.
>agreed
the CRKT M16 is a duty edc nigger. no one uses a fucking M16 bayonet to open MREs but a spear point pocket knife is at least half a weapon if not meant to be.

>2,75" box cutter blade
ok fag

Nut up or shut up.

>punching something way harder than fat and muscle
>damn why does it hurt so much

I'm content with you continuing to embarrass yourself, pink butterfly knife SSA "carrying" hipster newfag
>he doesn't own a second knife
>he wasn't here to pick up on CSF, ergo a turbo newfag