Boomer hate fuel

> right arm of the free world
> civilians in the countries that use it can't own it
> free

Still stamped sheet metal ain't it?

I can dig it.

I literally do daydream about this
>Hi Power-chan, I'll always love you, even if you're criminally underappreciated

Not with that trigger pull user.

My first experience was with a high power. Pretty good I’d say.

imagine Jow Forums actually getting some good threads posted instead of shit like this.....

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this user gets it!

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WTF is this thread? The CZ-75 is the perfected Hi-Power, and there's polymer clones made in fucking Turkey that even take Hi-Power mags.

ITT: noguns tards

I am in love with the M91/30 (>inb4 gaurbage raayful), and I'm still pissed about supply drying up. We could have had brand new imports from Russia, but philly chimps stopped it because it hurt their feelings. We could have taken old tooling and make them here, but redneck chuckle fucks only care about ARs and cast metal pipe bombs chambered for 30-06.

And any new idea that someone wants to think of is immediately shot down by NPC GAyR15 lovers who throw a tantrum about their precious frankengun getting dissed.

The surplus market is fucking dead, and we'll be heading for a short-lived monopoly, until the pizzafags in New York start shoving gun control down our throat, with nothing to fall back on.

I've lost hope in anything new production, and I'm learning to make my own milsurp repros. You reap what you fucking sew.

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so a budget scar?

Mosins are dogshit. They were back then, and they still are dogshit today. I'm sorry that you-- or anyone-- actually likes them, but no one will ever produce that garbage ever again.

Yup, they are garbage rods.

>magine if Hipowers where as prolific and varied and beloved
Considering how many tilting bolt 9mm DA/SA and SAO guns are a direct descendant of the HiPower's design, I think you could say it has surpassed the 1911's design.

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>I think you could say it has surpassed the 1911's design.
Nope, not even close.
Far more companies, almost every major gun manufacturing concern in the world, are making 1911s. The Hi-Power is an excellent design, and CZ has been perfecting it. However, the 1911, even after 108 years, remains the most popular handgun of all time.

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but hi-powers are almost 1911s? and werent they popular as fuck outside ameruca? the SAS even used them. this must be a cope thread.

I think Molot makes them to this day.

>Molot
NOPE. Molot refurbished old Mosins for export, and might have actually made some small parts for them, but nobody is so fucking stupid as to actually build crap rifles for hopes of profit.

> almost every major gun manufacturing concern in the world, are making 1911s.
Fair point
> remains the most popular handgun of all time
I don't know of a single law enforcement agency still issuing .45s, let alone doublestack 2011 in 9mm. Not aware of a military either, but hey, it could happen. If you allow that striker fired double stack tilting bolt actions fall under HiPower design, there's a lot of fucking Glocks, 226's, and 75s issued out there.

I'm disgusted you would even think of a Hi-power in any other configuration than military.

Molot doesn't refurb anything, they just take them out of storage, mark them and export. They do make a new production nugget, and they even had a website for US sales, but that fell through and they are only sold in europe in non military calibers.

>I don't know of a single law enforcement agency still issuing .45s
That has nothing to do with popularity
>Not aware of a military
Navy, Marine, and Army armorers are still building spec 1911s for special ops.
> If you allow that striker fired double stack tilting bolt actions fall under HiPower design, there's a lot of fucking Glocks, 226's, and 75s issued out there.
If you call almost all pistols other than 1911s the same design, you might argue the point, but you seem a lot smarter than that.

>They do make a new production nugget,
Show me a link. Just one.

>That has nothing to do with popularity
Cool, let's just get the semantics bit done out front. You willing to equate popularity with units sold? If not, which metric would you prefer?
> Spec-Ops
Then there's probably guys still getting 226's as well. I don't even know how to quantify which is the larger number, because secret squirrels gonna secret.
> If you call almost all pistols other than 1911s the same design
Fair enough. I guess I should have said striker fired tilting bolts, and in particular Glocks, are then most popular gun in the world by units sold, or even just market share. I admit I don't think Texas DPS, US & Euro PDs, and Production divisions moved enough 226s, 75s, 88s, and 99s to outnumber 1911s, but I also have no idea how many 1911s are still running around.

>he doesn't realize that hipowers are so unpopular because they're trash while 1911s still at least have their own niche.
The hipower after market used to be fuckin massive, and they were very popular guns on their own because for a long time they were one of if not the best double stack games in town. Who cares if they had worse ergos, way worse triggers, typically worse fit/finish, and less aftermarket than 1911s, or would not reliably function with HPs like revolvers. Simply having a large capacity, reasonable size, good reliability, and enough institutions adopting them off the bat gave them a nice niche as a more "practical" choice over the competition. The problem comes in when other practical wonder nine designs became commonplace. Anybody looking for a practical design went over to a S&W, sig, glock or H&K, as they BTFO'd the hipower in its own niche, becoming
straight upgrades in literally every respect. Meanwhile the revolvers and 1911s that always competed on their own ergonomic, accuracy, ease of use, or other niche merits outside of sheer practicality remain abundant to this day as nothing can really beat them in their own little bailiwicks, even if you don't personally like them.

Overall a great learning lesson about technological evolution. Just like in nature it isn't a question of survival of the fittest, but rather survival of the least inadequate. Burrowing mammals surpassed dinosaurs after the asteroids fell not by being superior predators, but simply by hiding in their holes.

Here's the fucking US website they had up for preorder before importation got cancelled.
web.archive.org/web/20130217094714/http://www.molot-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/62

They were fucking showed at euro trade shows FFS. Fucking google has tons of hits covering it.

youtube.com/watch?v=KPcj3nU4Yb0

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>You willing to equate popularity with units sold? If not, which metric would you prefer?
Let's go units sold by cost. There's a lot of cheap plastic shit out there.
>Then there's probably guys still getting 226's as well.
There's prolly OPs that like revolvers and shotguns, too.
> I also have no idea how many 1911s are still running around.
A fuck of a lot more than plastic nines when you consider how many firms are still building them after a 100+ years history.

I didn't know this existed.

It makes my peepee tingle

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>A fuck of a lot more than plastic nines
Yeah, nah. Anyway, I'm out. I think you just like to argue. But to show I'm not a bad sport, you can tell everyone you out-argued another polymer kiddy online this weekend.

>web.archive.org/web/20130217094714/http://www.molot-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/62
>Based on the 7.62x54R Mosin-Nagant rifle
Those were refurbished Mosin receivers with either cut barrels or new barrels with some new parts. You were wrong on two counts: Molot didn't make a new Mosin, and they DID referb old shit.

> polymer kiddy
I'm truly sorry for you. It's not to late to change. Son.

Hey Chang

greatest generation man.

they are all new production, wrong buddy =)

no because it's a shitty platform to try and make relevant again

>they are all new production, wrong buddy =)
kek, show me where they said that, fool. I saw that shit, they polished up old receivers and filled in the pitting, it was blatant.

Say what you will but the a lot of young people's ideas of guns and how they work and are used comes from generations of fuddlore. So those of us that are tired of boomershit are gonna complain about it and/or post about it for the sake of nogunz and people who are just less knowledgeable.

>they are all new production,
not the guy you're arguing with, but why would a company spend money to make something they could just buy for pennies on the dollar?

In the fucking video user linked the guy says its a reproduction, aka a new production.

Buy?
There was a contract to scrap a few hundred thousand. Paid for by the UN to Russia as part of the disarmament campaign.

lol okay homo

>In the fucking video user linked the guy says its a reproduction, aka a new production.
Pretty big jump in logic based on a video you saw. A brilliant move: build gun parts of a crap design, when there's tens of thousands of them sitting in Russian warehouses.

LMFAO, sucker.

too bad they hammer bite me

Lol burgerkike on suicide watch

Do people not remove the mag safety as soon as they get it?
Hell I rip out most safeties within minutes of getting a gun.
t. Hockey taped my 1911 grip safety, ripped out my Tok abomination safety, drilled out my lever gun cross bolts, paid bubba to punch out the Hillaryhole