There has never been a single man alive who's killed 50 people with nothing but a sword

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack
Bad people want to do bad things, but blaming everyone for roughly .00001% of wrongful murders and shootings isn't good enough.

I mean those two jap officers who had that competition in Nanking to cut off 100 some odd heads...

Does it break the rule if they used a horse for some of those kills too? Because the crusaders certainly got those numbers, and likely some cavalrymen throughout history especially while routing the enemy army.

^^

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Odysseus probably did in the slaying of the suitors.

This guy has killed hundreds of people with a length of wire. IIRC, he claims to have killed over 10000 people through various methods.

youtu.be/oZqEzIEWzPk

>You will never rid your land of the dregs while being paid and praised for it on top of fulfilling a family tradition passed down to you by your father.

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>In the end, Benkei and Yoshitsune were encircled in the castle of Koromogawa no tate. As Yoshitsune retired to the inner keep of the castle to commit ritual suicide (seppuku) on his own, Benkei stood guard on the bridge in front of the main gate to protect Yoshitsune. It is said that the soldiers were afraid to cross the bridge to confront him, and all that did met swift death at the hands of the gigantic man, who killed in excess of 300 trained soldiers.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benkei

What is an executioner?

imagine getting executed by brap

The sword was the primary weapon for light cavalry to ride down fleeing men. Killing 50 men with a sword would not even be a very remarkable number to dragoons in Africa or North America in the 18th century.

good lord.

The entire movie is nuts.
youtu.be/3tILiqotj7Y?t=2h21m31s
definitely worth a watch

What's the viability of female sentrys Jow Forums?

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is this telling me the results were 106-105? So 211 total?

Probably had to ice down those arms afterwards

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Pretty valid, got my own suit

I'd sentry that butt. God Damn.

Executioners were barred from voting or holding public in many medieval and early modern contries

propaganda or wildly embellished stories m8. Its also written that dian wei protected cao cao at wan castle with a spear until it broke, then picked up two dead bodies and killed people with those until they stopped trying and shot him with arrows.

>not joining a PMC and carrying a sword

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Fake and disgusting Communist Chinese propaganda. World's knows that Nanking is fake as moon landing engineered by devil Mao to distract the world's attention from Chinese Communist world conquest plan. If you don't agree with this, you're Communist filth and traitor to your country.

Who cares, you get steady work, a proud father and a cool hood to wear.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benkei
you know that guy is basically japans Paul Bunyan

Miyamoto Musashi

And being hated by pretty much everyone in town, hence the hood.

>especially with a katana

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>one of the biggest mass rapes ever committed
>its fake because they're communist
Lmao never change american education

That porky bitch looks like she ate 50 people with nothing but a sword.

Why do you think this is a good measure of the swords' abilities?

1) This is not how a sword is used. You never ever will find yourself striking at full force a sword that is anchored down.

2) The fact that the bottom sword is anchored against a hard surface prevents it from flexing, so even within the confines of this retarded test it doesn't prove anything.

3) Further, we don't know anything about what steels those swords are made of. That could very well be a $20 1020 steel katana and a $5000 CPM 3v longsword.

In terms of actual combat the katana is a better weapon, there's really not much else to say on the matter. It's a highly developed differential hardened & laminated killing tool. Longswords were mostly through hardened throwaway pieces, with only rare instances of slack hardening.

>In terms of actual combat the katana is a better weapon

heh, heh...

oh, wait, you're serious... let ma laugh even harder...

Uhh it is. Are you so retarded that you don't understand how a differentially hardened weapon is superior? It can be 10-20x sharper than a through hardened sword of equal size (which has to be dull because it has to be made from soft steel because it's through hardened)

.t weeb

Materials are only part of the equation.

Do you even know what differential hardening means?

A katana is made of soft (30-40 rockwell C) steel on the spine and hard (55-65) steel on the edge. This is called differential hardening. It allows the edge to be very sharp yet the sword to also be flexible enough to not break. Through-hardening, like you see in european shitpiles, is where you make the entire sword out of soft flexible metal that can barely be sharpened past the status of a butter knife and loses its already-shitty edge almost instantly.

>In terms of actual combat the katana is a better weapon
In terms of actual combat, the wielder's manipulation of their training, experience, terrain, support, and weapon is what separates two combatants. But you're still a moron because the same test was done visa versa and the katana still got smashed.

What you should have been arguing were differences in usage. Instead, you focused on material and make. Because you're a moron.

>In terms of actual combat, the wielder's manipulation of their training, experience, terrain, support, and weapon is what separates two combatants.

Wow, that completely has nothing whatsoever to do with our argument! Congratulations on having a sub-90 IQ.

I guess a skilled midget will beat an unskilled basketball player with an automatic rifle, because skill is all that matters.

Once again, OP posts something not worth reading with a picture that's vaguely interesting to get replies.

You're the one that wanted to tell someone off for not fairly representing the abilities of a katana. If you don't want to do that with an argument for its general versatility of design, fielding, and training, you can do whatever you want. But nobody gives two shits about whether it's folded 1,000 times or 10,000 times if it doesn't stand up to a bastard.

>if it doesn't stand up to a bastard.
????????????????????

You know that IRL sword fights don't involve contestants placing their swords down on tables and hitting them against each other until one breaks, right?

I took a bastard sword and hit it with a sledgehammer, needless to say it broke and this proves sledgehammers are the superior fighting weapon.

let me join in here to laugh at you too
ha ha

>This is not the first post from this IP.

Combat is extremely circumstantial. There's no set-in-stone rules or power levels that dictate how a fight will play out.
I mean, no shit is someone fighting someone with a rifle 10 meters away going to to get shot. There's skill, but there's a shitload of other circumstances, too. I didn't even argue that training and experience were the sole factors of a fight. That's a strawman you built.

Yeah, I get that. And katana fanboy agrees. We're arguing about arguments.

>I didn't even argue that training and experience were the sole factors of a fight

Are you literally near-retarded? Like low functioning? Here is what happened in this thread. We were discussing whether katanas or european swords are better, their hardenings, their geometry, etc. Then you said

>In terms of actual combat, the wielder's manipulation of their training, experience, terrain, support, and weapon is what separates two combatants.

????????

This is COMPLETELY unrelated to what we were talking about. Just kill yourself. I won't be giving you any more attention.

This is stupidly hot for some reason sauce/more of the on in the op?

>Here is what happened in this thread.
Look at the subject prompt. It states,
"There has never been a single man alive who's killed 50 people with nothing but a sword."
That's the point of the thread. The east vs west argument is something else entirely.
You must be very young to think "just kill yourself" is a good insult. We're all losers here. You have to narrow it down.

Are you very new to the website and don't understand how replying works? You weren't replying to the OP.

That's like saying if you go to an AR thread and don't respond to somebody, it's no off-topic to talk about AKs. And I thought you weren't going to give me any more attention.

You faggot. He meant your argument is unrelated. Like the one you're having right now. You were the moron all along.

>needing a weapon
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Little
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Qiang_(serial_killer)

It's been a while since I saw an actual katana fanboi instead of just people making fun of the stereotype of katana fanbois. Kinda nostalgic.

It's not a rare feat of combat to strangle prostitutes.

The phenomenon of westerners hating "katana fanboys" is the same as the one of westerners calling anyone who thinks anything positive about Japan a "weaboo"

Essentially the west has a huge inferiority complex and has no actual argument, just a lot of social shaming.

fine, how about mongolians? each man had to slaughter 50 people after taking over a city

>There has never been a single man

What about married men?

why? perceived mental illness?

>staying up to watch the most extreme
>it'll never be 2003 again

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No

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>my ancestors are smiling on me

This

>retarded test because the bottom sword is anchored
The point of this test was to determine if a katana could actually cut through a sword even under the best possible conditions. Obviously a stupid thing to believe is possible.
>differentially hardened is better because sharpness
That's really a matter of context my anime-obsessed friend. Against opponents in plate, a katana is more of a liability than an asset. Long swords we're designed for their intended use

Shut up weeb. GTFO Jow Forums.

>That's really a matter of context my anime-obsessed friend. Against opponents in plate, a katana is more of a liability than an asset. Long swords we're designed for their intended use

You don't use any sword against platemail, eastern or european.

QED, swords are shit
Guns >swords

>ben sisko finds islam

>>differentially hardened is better because sharpness
>That's really a matter of context my anime-obsessed friend.

There is no context in which you prefer a sword that is less sharp, lmao.

This. OP is a legitimate retard who can't even be bothered to use Google.

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Except they did, all the time. Although obviously falling out of favor when full plate became more common, swords we're still used alot when most people were wearing transitional armors.
It wasn't that they didn't want it sharp, it's that it didn't have to be very sharp to function and a hard blade (differentially hardened or otherwise) is just going to be more susceptible to breaking and more difficult to reform.

citation needed

Pic related fought in 40 battles and won all except one so I'd say its reasonable to say he killed at least 50.

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I am really curious here.

Do you think Europeans swords are more effective than katana against plate armor? If so, please explain

Bare-handed? Doesn't sound doable.

Have you ever seen a curved blade penetrate banded steel? Not that user, but i would think the Katana is more of a slashing weapon, which is exactly what plate armor specialized in stopping. Especially with pauldrons and chainmail the neck and armpits are just as protected

Let me just get this doubly straight.

You think European swords were cutting through plate mail?

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There is a limit to how sharp a sword needs to be. Katanas were primarily employed dismembering unarmed peasants to intimidate them. Being extremely sharp is an asset in this application.

No there really isn't, a sharper sword is always better. A glancing blow can become a mortal blow just by difference of +- 10 microns sharpness.

One instance.
publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/tip-sheet/article/56370-what-was-it-like-to-be-an-executioner.html

In most of Europe, the profession of executioner was one of the most reviled by society.

No fren, they are trying to crush as many bones on the otherside of that plate as they can, a task illsuited for a thin lightweight blade

>a sharper sword is always better
No. A sword's design balances weight, dimensions and hardness. An ideal sword for general use sits right in the middle:
Not too heavy so it can be used effectively (this is why many swords had material cut out from the middle, though this compromised hardness somewhat)
Not too short, long, wide, etc. so it can fulfill its role
Not too hard (read: sharp) for durability
A katana maximizes hardness, having a slim profile and relatively heavy O/A weight. It is not suitable for use against any kind of metallic guard.
An arming sword sits closer to the middle, and is viable for use against an opponent with a shield or even chain mail.
Also, if you're the user who thinks swords are pointless when used against plated armor, you might be forgetting that plate armor isn't a perfect, intermeshed and impregnable defense.

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>>a sharper sword is always better
>No.
>(proceeds to talk about everything EXCEPT the argument he just made: that a duller sword can be better in a sword fight)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sequitur_(logic)

He wasn't saying that a sharp butter knife is better than a dull longsword you fucktard, he was saying that a sword being sharper is always preferable to it being duller, which it is. How could you possibly interpret the post any other way? Is your IQ sub-90? Do you work retail?

I'm not gonna reply to all your posts but just know that I'm also laughing at you.

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Wrong. You can watch that sword be made, the guy is one of a VERY few people allowed to import katana to japan. They do not fuck around with quality.

>REEE MUH HARDENING
The long sword is also longer, has less mass relative to length, more robust blade designs in general, and is far more versatile with better hand protection.

Not that guy, but sort of yes. When armor was getting better, swords were getting more tapered to finer points. This allows the user to guide it into smaller gaps in the armor. I assume this helps split rings possibly as well. This is why half swording exists, to improve control over where the tip is going. No sword is going to straight up go through a competent piece of armor, Euro or Japanese. But they could go around it, which is what both cultures of warriors did.

>facebook filename
>mental midget normalfaggot who knows he's wrong and makes no attempt to argue
LOL

>You can watch that sword be made,
What steel is it made from? If you are unable to answer this question I won't reply to you again.

There are entire manuals on how to use longswords against armored opponents. They're designed for the task.