Dobule Rifle Thread
Post em if you got em
The Beauty And Elegance of the Double Rifle
If only these things weren't retarded expensive. Its like 15k for one.
that's part of the mystique desu
Sabatti and Chapuis both make double rifles for less than $10k. There's also Baikal who makes production level double rifles which can be had for $500 or less.
I got to fire a few double rifles recently from Chapuis and I quite enjoyed it. One was in .30-06 and the other was in .416 Rigby. I think I'm going to have to save up for a double rifle of some flavour now.
Why are over under double rifles not a thing?
oh, they are
Thanks guys, these are some beautiful pieces of craftsmanship. These made my night.
Beautiful guns, but the kind of thing that you'd be afraid to touch, let alone fire, for fear of devaluing it.
It's probably just tradition at this point. Over under shotguns are a niche market within a niche market already. Over under rifles would be a niche within a niche within a niche.
not specifically for rifles, but here's how H&H makes their side by sides
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they are extremely nice but damn I wish I could just get a single shot rifle in some stupidly large cartridge like 700 nitro express. Can't though, because its only for these expensive double rifles.
>that tang
damn thats long.
>implying you own't need 2 shots
the big fellas don't go down so easy, amigo ;)
anyway here's a double with some history actually being put to some use(pic unrelated)
pretty damn aesthetic hunt if you ask me
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Its not that I don't need 2 shots, its that double barrel anything is gonna be much more expensive than a single shot will.
yeah I know what you mean
it's just that these rifles seem to mostly be used as tools
and anyone who'd want to use it as a tool would want the double
and anyone who'd want it as a collector's piece would be willing to fork over the dough to have a piece of history
though a falling block chambered in 700 NE would be a triple scoop of memes
hell maybe someone could get a Thompson Contender chambered in it? 700 Nitro Express BFR?
>70 grains cordite
had to google this to figure out wtf it was
apparently we used to fill ammo with explosive noodles
Yup!
That's essentially smokeless noodles, the stepping stone to smokeless powder.
there's just something about the British and guns that I just can't buy into. They banned guns (b-but muh bolt .22s lmao) and their commercial market just dissipated. Now whenever I think of British guns, I think of over priced shotguns that a Bellini could out preform in any environment or competition and that garbage l85 that HK had to fix. When the last boomer finally succumbs to heart disease or whatever they die of, H&H will die over night. What will the British have then?
I think they will always exist... I will assume their manufacturing facility already only houses a small handful of gun makers, so we're not talking about hundreds of employees over many acres of manufacturing plant...
There will always be the few wealthy that think nothing of spending $150,000 for a nice double.
>What will the British have then?
You shouldn't assume the British have anything now. In all likelihood, the vast majority of British made firearms are purchased by non-Britons. Even back in the days of the empire the British didn't have many firearms compared to an American standard. Pretty much the only place you found any sorts of weapons were in the hands of soldiers and in the hands of wealthy nobles either hunting birds at home or hunting big and dangerous game abroad. As a result you really only have two sorts of British weapons. On one hand you have rifles like the ones in this thread. Top quality and top dollar. On the other hand you have something like the Martini-Henry, which in all honesty is only interesting because it goodified so many Zulus.
The sad truth is that the height of the British empire sucked for most everyone in Britain except those who were wealthy enough to enjoy the spoils of conquest. For those too poor to partake, the only thing that changed was the demographic makeup of their Kingdom. After all, the Earl's Caribbean servants had to live somewhere. And you wouldn't dare complain. A good citizen of the empire keeps calm and carries on as if nothing of note has occurred.
Rule Britannia ;^)
this is the pinnacle of human craftsmanship
Ferrari? Plebs. The saturn V rocket? Plebs. The mona lisa? Plebs. Michaelangelo's David? Plebs.
Somehow I've never gotten around to owning a proper double rifle. Mainly because of these reasons:
>Soldered barrels mean big groups
>Ammo sensitive
>Have to send in to a gunsmith to regulate
The british guns aren't my cup of tea either. It seems to me like H&H, W&R and Rigby are only going off of brand name these days.
Their prices seem quite high for what the guns are, so my best guess is boomers paying a big name premium.
If you look at what PHs are carrying in Africa, you'll mostly see pic related, the Heym 88b, mostly chambered in .470 Nitro Express.
I've handled them numerous times, also visiting the factory one time and they shoot great for double rifle standards. An all-around good working gun.
>If you look at what PHs are carrying in Africa, you'll mostly see pic related, the Heym 88b, mostly chambered in .470 Nitro Express.
true story
Mark Sullivan carries a Heym chambered in .577 Nitro Express
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Or carried at least
his site says he's in Alaska right now
>that wood grain
beautiful
This; I talked to a British dude from whom I was buying milsurp (an Ishapore 2A and a Mosin Type 53). Said that he ironically couldn't collect anything until he married a Burgerstani woman and started his collection here stateside.
Mayhaps you could buy a very thick rifled 12guage barrel and load 12g brass with .71cal bullets
Is there such a thing as an 'affordable' double rifle?
Get it in one of the old school Nitro Express cartridges if possible. The long, tapered cases make extraction a lot easier.
depends on what your definition of affordable is
Baikal makes some that are less expensive, but they're not anywhere near as polished as the ones posted here. As well, buying one of lesser quality may end up just disappointing you. Of course that doesn't mean they all need to be $20k either.
>Whilst as for penetration, it's only necessary to remember that you can only kill an animal dead. You can't kill him any deader by driving your bullet clean thru him than you can by driving it into a vital spot. He can only be killed the once. I've had considerable arguments over this question of penetration and the .600(.600 Nitro Express), and on one occasion, having killed a good bull(elephant) with a frontal brain shot from my .600, I shoved a piece of young bamboo into the wound as far as it would go, and then withdrew it and measured it against the 24" barrels of the rifle--it was fully 3 inches longer. Well, in the name of all reason, what more do you want than that?
- John Taylor, African Rifles and Cartridges
anyone who likes this era of firearms history should definitely get the book
>apparently we used to fill ammo with explosive noodles
learn something new everyday.
Damn, I really wish someone would shoot up a fancy prep school with one of these. Maybe take a little heat off our black rifles.
>shooter fires 1 shot
>bullet goes through entire school end to end
>hits 10 kids
>bullet travels into school parking lot
>hits tanker truck conveniently parked in front of the school
>chinese industrial tier explosion
>thousands dead
>plus 10 kids
>CA and NY ban every caliber larger than .22 short
and he'd still have one barrel left
Ruger #1's and Thompson Encores in rifle configuration are relatively inexpensive ways of getting some big-bore single shots.
There are also used options. Hang around auction sites, you can get one around $5k without too much effort.
I think those Ruger No. 1s come in calibers that big and for "only" a few thousand dollars
Do BRNO zh series over unders kinda count? Just got the zh 301 so both barrels are 12g but the they are interchangable-ish and there are a few different double rifle configurations. They can still be found in cabelas.
>that fucking picture
LOL
they beat him to it.
If you can find it, Baikal used to make one in 45-70/30-06, .223 for around 1k or possibly less
I feel like putting an AD in your local paper would be the best way to get one. Old ladies probably have lots of them
Here's some great double gun porn courtesy of H&H