Bullpup Riflez

What advantages do bullpup rifles have over ones of a regular design?

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Shorter barrel, greater comparative accuracy, compact and supposedly lighter

Wouldn't the longer barrel of a contemporary rifle give it more accuracy?

being more gay makes faggots like OP really like them

greater comparative accuracy to rifles of similar length
But mostly bullpups were invented with tactical manoeuvring in-mind.
Shorter barrel, same accuracy as a longer-length rifle

I think what he meant was keeping the same barrel length of a standard rifle while being in a overall smaller package.

Most bullpups actually have the same barrel length as a normal rifle, they just have a lower profile since it extends all the way to the back of the rifle, rather than the mid-point. Accuracy would be the same, but the ergonomics would be different: how its shouldered, how well you can keep it steady.

There is also no weight reduction unlike what says. They're usually the same, or heavier, in a smaller package. It's a difference between carrying 7lbs broomstick vs a 7lbs dustpan. Same weight, different size, different weight distributions.

Weight distribution can be more comfortable for holding for extended periods of time. Shorter rifles for a given barrel length.

That's pretty much it.

They usually arent lighter but they feel lighter due to weight distribution

Failed design I guess

>more comfortable for holding for extended periods of time.
Not for bullpups unless it is a QBZ or something just as light

>Shorter barrel
This is the exact opposite of what they offer - a comparably longbarrel for the same weapon length
>Greater accuracy
In theory, yes. In practice, most bullpups are 4 moa garbage rods.
>Supposedly lighter
Again, in theory. In practice they're both heavy and have the weight shifted awkwardly back.

This is all at the cost of
>Having the magazine in your armpit, making it awkward to reload
>Having the ejection port gas you in the face
>Being unable to switch shoulders because of the aforementioned issue
>Having the chamber next to your neck, so in the unlikely event of a kaboom it sends shrapnel into your jugular
There's a reason most bullpup armies are trying to adopt more conventional rifles.

bullpups and eurocanards man. fucking europeans

Bullpups made smgs redundant though.

>What advantages do bullpup rifles have over ones of a regular design?
They're short. There you go. They're not lighter, they're not more accurate, they're not some wunderwaffen. If you have a mechanized army and want to retain a full length rifle then bullpups are an option.

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literally only thing is their shorter OAL. You can have a 20" barrel rifle with overall length give or take a couple inches same as an M4 with a 14.5" barrel.

Huh.

All bullpup threads evolve into people who have never touched a bullpup posting about how shit they are and citing Inrange as a source.

ya seethin?

Similar barrel length to a standard rifle in a shorter package. Also includes the magical ability to drain your bank account.

How is that any worse than 13 year olds shilling for bullpups citing future weapons and COD stats as a source?

I guess there is a reason why every army in the world isn't using them

They're just smol at the cost of trigger and reload speed.

Longer barrels don't equal greater accuracy if that's what you're getting at. Noguns folk seem to hang on to that belief. I think it comes from not only increased sight radius, but also from the fact that shorter barrels tend to shoot lower velocities which increases bullet drop. Which some people incorrectly associate with lower accuracy.

>CoD stats are a source of equal validity to InRange.
I'm not an Ian still, but dude, really?

No. That's because of AR modularity and a decline in national armories. The ARs greatest strength is its economic proliferation (not that it performs poorly either but this is secondary to logistics and costs).

No no no, you got it wrong. With the receiver behind the trigger group, that means that you can fit a LONGER barrel in a smaller package

>If you have a mechanized army
>If you have an army that is 1960s technology and above

>cheating by making the barrel overlap the magazine on the conventional while staying ahead of it in the bullpup

>complaining about accuracy and measurements in a paint drawing

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>every army
?? uk, austria, australia, singapore, china

There's a bullpup pistol sold by Bond that does that: you load the rounds in backwards, it pulls one out of the mag with a second extractor, lifts it on a ramp just after the last casing ejects, and locks the next one in battery.

That's mostly a dig at noguns shilling bullpups, senpai.

Literally everything about this post is wrong and noguns.

shorter overall length while maintaining barrel length. Barrel length is important with regards to velocity. 5.56x45 needs high velocity (preferably above 2500fps) to fragment and create a large temporary wound cavity. This becomes a problem for sbr's at ranges from 100-150 meters. (nothing to do with accuracy as stated above). Weight distribution is usually back heavy (tavor) which makes it really easy to keep on target/ point and shoot.

Drawbacks depends on the type of bullpup but in general:
- triggers are worse
- slight weight increase (but still more comfortable to carry imo)
- lefties / offhand shooting creates problems because it tends to eject in your face. (most modern day bullpups can change ejection from left to right)
- different manipulation compared to ar-15 but this is a non issue if you aren't accustomed to traditional rifle layouts.

My X95 is my shtf/home defence rifle of choice. I can live with all the drawbacks as the advantage of a reliable compact 16inch rifle outweigh the negative.

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They trigger Americans.