Was it too ambitious?
What went wrong?
Luis Clark
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Luke Cruz
Too cold looking
No aesthetics
Carter Martin
It's main mission of shore bombardment via cannon was antiquated and moronic.
Jaxson Mitchell
McCann, nonsensical mission (muh iowa NGFS), mission creep, technology creep, a class number cut.
More or less it.
Benjamin Barnes
No mast to wave Navy flag
No gallow-like structure to hang mutineers from.
If you can't hang ensigns, what else she is worth for??? Send her to Coasties.
Andrew Baker
Slash and whine.
Ian Phillips
Is the the F-35 of navy ships?
Dylan Foster
The old "fucked around in AutoCAD for 30 minutes" school of aesthetic design, I see.
Anthony Gutierrez
>What went wrong
General retardation and the typical tendency to put 15 gallons of shit in a 10 gallon bucket.
Once the Navy realized the vertical gun system was a meme, they should've just navalized an existing L52 SPG turret. Instead, they decided to continue the special snowflake bullshit and ended up with a gun that can't use any ammo currently in service. At least its VLS cells are larger than the ones used in Burkes and Ticos, so it can use the new generation of big-dick missiles without refit.
Frankly, for all the money spent into creating a glorified arsenal ship, the Navy could've copied the general plan of the Kirov-class battlecruiser and adapted it to suit USN tastes. Could have probably gotten more than three ships out of it, too.
Though at least the three existing ships can be easily converted to railguns due to the considerable spare electrical generation capacity.
Andrew Cooper
What if they mounted like 30 CIWS’s to it and reclassify it as Hedgehog class?
Hudson Martinez
If the gun can perform hundreds of miles inland its not that antiquated an idea.
Jaxson Diaz
>If the gun can perform hundreds of miles inland
But it can't.
Jose Roberts
No.
Jacob Robinson
Why is OP posting pictures of sea? I don't get it bros.
Cameron Lopez
Yes
Also balsa wood
American engineering turned to shit after they started going for diversity hires unlike China which is still racially homogenous.
That’s why the type 55 project produced such impressive results
Wyatt Nguyen
Surely this ushers in the new era of Chinese global hegemony
Camden Green
"American engineering" started going shit once nazi scientist became a minority and boomers replaced them.So basically when it started being american and stopped being German it turned to McShit.
Matthew Robinson
800k-1mill per salvo
overengineered without a reason
overcomplicated without a reason
basicly it was yet another example of how the entire defence industry is just a fucking sinkhole
Asher Myers
a single decoration with tiddies and wings and it would've been perfect
Luis Hall
Modularity for equipment this big is a meme, warships should have a specific function/functions and should be purpose built to stick to those functions. It's fine to design something with some level of modularity in mind so that upgrading can be done with less waste and less expense but modularity in and of itself should not be the goal of a war machine.
Ayden Mitchell
That was never the main mission you fucking moron.
Josiah Miller
/m/ tried to make it look better
Kevin Torres
Damnit Katoki.
Xavier Cox
You're fucking stupid yes it was the gun they wanted wasn't funded so now it's relegated to surface warfare you nonce. The navy wanted a replacement for the Iowa Class
Gavin Gray
Literally everything you said is wrong you complete fucking retard.
Liam Gonzalez
Nigger, what the fuck are you talking about? It was literally designed at a guided missile destroyer from the beginning. The guns were never at any point intended to be the only or even primary weapon used in actual combat operations.
Jackson Jenkins
Unfortunately.
Hunter Cox
Not so. The entire project was pitched during GWOT as a naval fire support platform. I don’t know where you’re getting your retcon from.
Nicholas Wright
It most certainly wasn't.
It was initially designed to carry Gerald Bull's vertical gun as the primary weapon.
After Bull got iced by Shlomo Rabinsohn and pals, the Naval Ordnance Station got cold feet about the whole thing and attempted to go for a regular turreted design.
Brody Ward
The wealthy of this country no longer make their fortune through the steel industry and thus had no need for public works to enrich themselves.
Chase Nelson
There are plenty of public works that the new rich would benefit from. National fiber broadband is a perfect example.
Caleb Morris
Whoever accused the human race of being forward thinking?
Dominic Cruz
Lockmart bribery went wrong. Again.
Jaxson Hill
>spend billions on R&D assuming the cost would be spread across a large production run of ships
>number of ships get cut
>Congress freaks out over how much was being spent per ship
>cancels the program
Asher Hall
Why don't military contractors work on a FOAK model? Assuming a given number of units even before R&D is complete is a dumb way of operating, especially if feature/mission creep rear their ugly hydra heads.
Blake Cooper
Fuck me the future is now old people
William Bell
Bentley Watson
Because they have to get someone to pay for it, the company can't afford to front 2 billion+ for a ship the government might not buy, so they present it as a system the government can purchase and field as they work out the kinks, aka develope it on someone else's dime.
Mason Ramirez
Should pop a mk71 on it and call it done. Maybe a vls cell where the second turret was.
Thomas Smith
No. They're actually making a large number of F35s. This is the B70 of navy ships.
Kevin Clark
it should also be noted that these companies also do a large amount of R&D on their own dime as well, but this is mostly relegated to abstract and cutting edge pieces of technology, from which larger projects can be drawn from and developed into a contract.
Benjamin Powell
Do they even have any 8-inch barrels left?
David Nguyen
What went wrong with the Seawolf?
Ryan Perry
I don't know, but even the autoloading 8" from the Des Moines split into three one-gun turrets would be amazing
Levi Perez
trufax
German rocket engineers got to the fuckin moon, then the boomers took over and blew a fucking shuttle up on live TV right in front of a million schoolkids
Gavin Rogers
America sadly doesn't build cool shit anymore.
Austin Sullivan
One thing I don't understand and it really grinds my gears is, why the fuck did they go with 155 mm if they didn't intend ammo commonality with artillery rounds? What's the fucking purpose? 152 mm is a classic naval caliber (6 inches).
Aaron White
yeah an older family member (who maybe knew some stuff) told me long ago that "we'll always win as long as we have the most germans" meaning the paperclip dudes. he was in awe of the guys. our domestic products (including himself)? not so much.
Leo Bailey
No one got the memo that the US has a budget
Ryan Bennett
Why not just use ships like the USS New Jersey and USS Missouri if you’re going to bomb shorelines?
David Wood
The Chinese literally have more geniuses because they have a bigger population
Colton Walker
Threadly reminder that parts of this "warship" are made of fucking balsa wood
Kevin Hernandez
We actually did used to have something similar on our earlier battleships.
Samuel Moore
>It's main mission of shore bombardment via cannon was antiquated and moronic.
This, the entire project reeks of dinosaurs like McCain. You could say this is his other brain tumor
Landon Sanders
We build cool shit all the fucking time. Only the illiterate and willfully ignorant believe otherwise.
Jacob Moore
Because that wasn't the mission. Only fucking idiots think is was.
Dylan Diaz
>Why not just use ships like the USS New Jersey and USS Missouri if you’re going to bomb shorelines?
Because bombing shorelines from gun ranges is asking for a termit up your ass
Julian Campbell
this.
Zumwalt looks strange.
Type 55 is the true beauty.
Jeremiah Cox
unarmed vessels are not warship ;)