Spanish Civil War

Raping and killing women was rather frequent during the war for both sides. This particular instance was perpetrated by fighters from the republican Frente Popular.

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Other buildings, like the Alcázar in Toledo, weren't as lucky. Thankfully it has been restored to its former glory nowadays.

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Prostitution was initially prohibited in the republican side as it was seen as an act of subjugation, but later the ban was lifted when the prostitutes themselves protested. Sexual services frequently were used as payment in the new anarchist system.
"Vale por seis porvos con la Lola", roughly translates to "Ticket worth 6 fuks[sic] with Lola"

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Moorish mercenaries were employed by the nationalist side to great effect. They were veterans from the Rif wars.

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Kinda cool

Shit, I'd kill effete college kids if they did that shit near me. Spanish republicans got everything they deserved.

careful not to cut yourself on that edge, kiddo

shut the fuck up fedora

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>lets support the people who kill the people who give back most to the community through charity
I don't see anarchists running orphanages or feeding the hungry.

Slow down there samefag.

Honestly not samefagging, surprised that people support what is good and right?

Franco did absolutely nothing wrong and the good guys won the war.

You think the Spanish Republicans had the same mentality? Lol you'd be in a ditch in that time and place wondering how such a percieved small number of people crushed your ideology.

>fascists
>good guys

pick one and only one

Republicans got what they deserved

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>communists and anarchists
>good guys
I’d take the “””fascists””” over the Spanish Republicans every day of the week and twice on Sunday

Being conformist edgelords they are, most of Jow Forumsompañeros would side with Franco

Tell me 1 (one) thing that Franco did that was unjustifiably wrong.

I never understood why internet-dwelling alt-righters think that actual fascists would be accepting of them.

Homosexual/metropolitan eloi/welfare recipient detected. Please report to your nearest diversity center for tolerance training your prescence on Jow Forums has been noted and will not be used in contempt of you as long as you attend reconditioning.

Do you think everyone on the internet doesn't have a job or family, you might be surprised to learn there's quite a few here with a cested interest in building a better world for our children.

Cierra el pico, progre de mierda. Forocoches está en esa dirección.

Your body pillows do not count as children.

>if I insult him that'll probe me right
You can think what you want, but there are people who won't let your bullshit ruin their kids. Push your bull shit and you'll find yourself against a wall because people are protecting their kids from the fucked up world you want to create.

The 2nd Republic might arguably have been a 'better' or at least 'more free' government (regardless of how well it actually worked out in the end) than Franco's, but once the war broke out I have no doubt that the nationals were the 'better' side for Spain. Republican militias ranged from well intentioned extremists (that knew nothing about running a country), through bloodthirsty bolsheviks that were out to impose their beliefs on everyone through any means necessary, to literal bands of criminals that used their newfound power to steal from the rich.
It's just crazy that certain ideologies nowadays completely whitewash the republican side. The civil war was at is best a conflict of grey on grey. At its worst, it was black on black.

Francisco Franco acted in self defense
If anything he was too soft when dealing with the Republicans

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If video games were around then you can bet your money that Franco would have been a gamer and would have fought for the cause of gamers.

civil wars are so weird, you might be killing your neighbor or even your relatives. really scary stuff

This, even George Orwell thought the Republicans were corrupted

>nationalists retaliating against republicans for murdering clergy, cleansing out areas of people unsympathetic to their communist/anarchist ideals, and stealing the property and possessions of people to redistribute it amongs themselves makes them evil
At worst the nationalists were grey, at best the republicans were the blackest black.

and yet he still preferred them to the fascists...

Because he was an outspoken socialist.

Here in Portland, there's two emergency warming shelters for the homeless ran by anarchists. Well one is ran entirely by anarchists, the other is ran by a partnership with a church and anarchists

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I believe you but the point still stands that the church will always do more community outreach and charity than anarchist/commies.

The Spanish Civil War is a textbook example of what happens when there's a civil war, all of the democracies in a region are pussies and the people in the country are too disorganized to form into a cohesive bloc.

>extremists can get all of the support that they need, because extremist states have absolutely no qualms about intervening in a war
>moderates get no help at all, because moderates in other countries are too indecisive and risk-averse to get involved
>conflict degenerates into extremist vs extremist, absolutely no chance of anyone reasonable winning

I think this is also basically what happened in Syria.

At least the communists killed the anarchists. My favorite part of the Spanish civil war. Useful idiots deserve death.

it's a bit of a narrow perspective, so i wouldn't say it gives a particularly great overview of the conflict.
but it's a fantastic book.

Hope they enjoyed getting MOOR'D

This is exactly what's going to happen across the west within a couple decades

Sorry, I don't speak gypsy.

Implying that charity can actually help and turn tides in dealing with social troubles

This is why commies and anarchists lose.

T. Has no idea about the charity being pointless money laundry

>he's a commie
>understands human compassion and charity
Pick one

If people who do charity were really compassionate and not the kind of people who are buying peace of mind through donating to "noble cause", they would go and do direct aid to those in need, for example, pay some kid's cancer treatment bill.
Even if people are honestly compassionate and donating to charity with all their sincerity, those donations due to their nature of irregular money flow coming from dispersed sources in different amount, can't help solving the major problem of the system people live in. For example, no charity program has ever solved issues of homelessness or lack of free healthcare in certain countries.
Even if I wouldn't be communist, I wouldn't donate money to charity, because I want my actions to have real influence on people's lives. I would help those people who I know and who I can actually help somehow. It's not about lack of compassion, it's about result.

Orrrr I can focus on what I'm good at and make more money resulting in more resources for those who do direct work to use. Food/shelter/medicine all cost money, by giving to charity and focusing on what I'm good at I can have a much bigger positive influence than using my time to work with people one on one. Not dogging those that do one on one work but they still need resources to work with.

The point of charity is to solve the social problems. If it's unable to solve them (and it's unable to solve them at all due to reasons mentioned above), what's the point of charity then? Pure "peace purchase".
If so, the only man worth helping is Der Einzige.

Yeah, but it's not like the fascist perspective is worth paying attention to, since anything they say is almost always outright abhorrent or intellectually dishonest.

Orwell was a pussy

let me know when you've volunteered to fight a war against fascists

I'll never do that because I'll rather volunteer to fight with the fascists

If the republican side had won, how likely is it that Spain would have just turned into a shitty Soviet bloc country after WWII and then inevitably turn back to capitalism in after the Soviet Union collapses in 1991

It almost certainly would not have been a communist nation but probably would have ended up in the Soviet Union's sphere of influence (much like many middle eastern countries during the Cold War). The Soviet Union actually opposed a communist revolution in Spain for reasons that are fairly complex.

He didn't invent the helicopter a few decades early to properly execute communists.

head on back to Jow Forums, edgelord

A E S T H E T I C

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>donate to local church
>through donations, church is able to run a soup kitchen that feeds the hungry
>poor in the vicinity have a place to eat
>OMG GUYS WORLD HUNGER IS STILL A THING, YOUR CHARITY IS WORTHLESS

Being anti-communist, you know, the ideology that killed more than the Nazis is Jow Forums, god damn some people are retarded.

The only thing wrong with it is that the monarchy was not fully reinstated.

you're not doing a good job of hiding your fascist beliefs, user

Daily reminder that fascists get the rope.

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Junkie, Faggot, or Layabout. Which one are you, commie?

>being anti-communist is fascist
just go back to protesting on college campuses to create your communist/pedosexual utopia, comrade.

I'm convinced these threads are made to weed out socialist scum on this board.

>Be a military man
>Spend time defending the colonies
>Kill communist revolutionaries
>Take over country
>Govern as a conservative
>Unfriendly toward Hitler in WW2

[spoiler]
>Be Winston Churchill
>Pic unrelated
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The Soviet Union aid to Republicans wasn't cheap. All the gold from Madrid treasury was send yo Moscow, never to be seen again.
Also Franco did excellent job keeping Spain away from WW2.

Churchill crimes in the Boer war will be avenged.

Jeff Cooper wrote a pretty interesting article on the battle for the Alcazar titled "The Epic of Alcazar". You want me to type it up and post it?

dunno about that, but it certainly brings out the fascists

The poor will always exist, and there will never be a Utopia where poverty does not exist. That is what communists do not understand; you fail to grasp the human condition. We are flawed. We will give a man a fish one day and then kill him for it the next when we are out of fish.

Doing a little good to right these wrongs we commit against each other through public charity is better than simply ignoring it under the pretense that the effort is better spent towards a grander solution that will never come.

Exactly.The amount of poor people hasn't changed, no change in the amount of starving people around the world, no change of the system that creates the conditions that lead people to starvations and homelesness
>muh human nature argument
Just watch recent Petersen vs. Zizek debates. It's not about human nature or flawed behavior. At all.
>public charity is better
How so?
Imagine yourself with a broken arm, with bones sticking out of the wound. And instead of going to the surgeon, you're eating painkillers, pack by pack. This is what charity is.
Surgeon may chop your hand off or may try to put it into place and give it proper treatment. But those are valid solutions.

Orwell was a socialist until he fought with the republicans and realized how shitty leftism was in practice allegedly

Go back to Jow Forums, Jow Forums is a snek board.

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Orwell remained a social Democrat his entire life. He was convinced that socialism could somehow come about without being a totalitarian shitshow like the USSR.

He's wrong, but that's what he believed.

>preferring the communists and anarchists
ur not just a projecting edgelord you are also retarded as well

You do realize, that agreeing with the absurdum in a reductio ad absurdum just proves that its absurd, right? The amount of hungry peoppe HAS changed. People with a place to eat are happier, the amount of suffering had changed, maybe that will spur them to action or give them the security they need to better their situation. Maybe its just enough to help a family that fell on hard times to get through it. Just because you can't reach everyone doesnt mean charity is worthless unless you're a fedora-tipping pseudo-intellectual commie faggot
>muh Peterson debate
Oh I see that you in fact ARE a fedora-tipping pseudo-intellectual commie faggot. Your analogy is ludicrous, and has no bearing on the discussion whatsoever.
Helping people helps. Numerous lives have been saved and improved by charities. Saying theyre worthless because they dont meet your arbitrary and impossible definition (rather than their actual objectives) is the kind of self-centered garbage an edgy high schooler would spout.

Commie bastards betrayed the Anarchists

you know homage to Catalonia is anarchist propaganda to right?

Syria isnt a civil war it was western intelligence agencies funding terrorists to destabilize the region, its just that Assad didnt fall as easily as the other pre-"arab spring" regimes

This

>we live in a society
ok retard

this

Orwell never stopped being a democratic socialist, he just came to realize that Stalinism was just as much of an authoritarian right-wing ideology as fascism.

spotted the retard who's never actually bothered to learn anything about Homage to Catalonia

Are they like every anarchist soup kitchen and feed people dumpster food?

Anarchy is the political state of being right before the strongest motherfucker takes power and shoots all the anarchists.

Get fucked bootlicker.