Holy shit, no one told me katana are so fucking heavy

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>, i can barely even swing the sword today

Pic related. OP.

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>i spent yesterday doing drawing/sheathing practice with this and my arms (and hands!) are fucking killing me

did you warm up? If you just went banzai with it with no warm up, no wonder.

I don't do katana's but I do have a 4.5kg shield (while my sword is only 860g, well within the historical range for early medieval swords).

What are you supposed to do to warm up for swinging stuff around?

RAPIERFAGS?? EXPLAIN

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They're like, 3lbs. Are you a fucking skelly?

It's not like a 3lbs dumbbell though, much of that 3lbs is way out beyond your hand. It's a leverage thing.

wrists, mostly.

weave your fingers together (as if you were praying), elbows together, then both hands left-right, then in a sircular motion (keeping your wrists together).

Stretch a bit. Arm straight, palm-up, fingers straight and stretch with other hand.

Then take the sword, hold your arm straight to the side (level with the ground), and slowly rotate the entire arm around the long axis (the sword tip should do a ~270 degree arc from pointing down-forward, to down-back).

Also - don't tense up your muscles, especially when swinging.

>EXPLAIN

what don't you understand?
Mind you, I don't do rapier.

swing lighter stuff around

I train German longsword. 75% of my classmates are unable tickets dnd nerds and they still manage. Don't be a wimp op.

Not sure what you need explained.

Longswords are like 1.5lbs mang, plus the sword is tapered so more of the weight is in the hand.

My feder is 2lbs 10 Oz, that's not a significant difference and most feders are around that weight. Don't be a fucking wimp.

And those guys don't feel it the day after their first session?

1.5kg would be more typical, especially for what's usually found in HEMA circles today.

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here we see medieval t-800

Training swords when there are guns around.
Are you retarded?

Are you fat?

No of course they do. But they either quit or get over it.

>training boxing when guns are around. Are you retarded?

Believe it or not some people do things for enjoyment and not to satisfy their paranoid violence fantasies.

No but I do lift weights, therefore having no pain after swinging a 20kgs hammer or a wood cutting axe for a couple of hours, which by the way are still relevant tools in the gunpowder era.

Post your body and I'll post mine.

You bought a sword without knowing the weight of it?

Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree HEMA is retarded, right?

In what sense?

They pride themselves on being "full contact" martial art, yet in the end they fall for the same issues of all other modern sword dueling doctrines. They have a very rigid, unnatural structure to bouts. They wear extensive padding but still refuse to use powerful strikes out of "respect". They stop every bout at the slightest touch of sword against padding, making no regard for whether it would be a damaging cut. They don't incorporate wrestling at all because, again, "respect".

>respect
>in a fucking fight
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You literally have no idea what you're talking about. The padding used is roughly equivalent to a medieval gambeson, and there's no universal rule set for HEMA. That said, 99% of every tournament I've ever seen requires a cut be martial, meaning it lands with enough force to do damage make your argument unequivocally fucking wrong. The only cuts that don't require force are push and draw cuts since those kind of cuts DON'T use a lot of force in the first place. Also, where the fuck did you hear they don't incorporate wrestling? I know own some tournaments don't allow take downs if they don't have padded floors but that's not all competitions and even then they still allow stand up grappling and disarms.

HEMA judging is all just a bunch of inbred nepotistic horse shit. The judges' buddies' strikes will count and yours won't.

I can't argue with that. In my experience across several martial arts judges are generally people who weren't good enough to compete or teach effectively.

Sword not heavy
Arms just weak
Keep swing sword

You guys are fags. Go get a Springfield M1A like a real man.

Always respect your enemy in combat. Even illiterate goatfuckers. Hubris week get you killed.

Clearly someone who has never played a sport or lifted weights

*CRACK*

I thought those were separate katana dudes
Was it really the light rail hero that was slain by the lake demon?

>that guy in the background who just throws his sword and his partner facepalming

This really says it all

Who would win
The katana or one floppy boi
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Probably the katana, honestly... all those sectioned staves are LARP weapons. If you used that against any sword they would just run into you and stab you to death.

Unless you are a particularly big guy, or experienced that is probably too heavy for what you are doing.

You have to remember that not all katana were the same, If your doing something like iaido then a blade on the light side might be more appropriate, especially considering the balance on many modern production swords.

Continuing to use a sword too heavy for you can result in bad technique and injury.

I don't think you're right.

I don't know
I have practiced enshin itto ryu battojutsu
The sectioned staff would have a range advantage and could still be used up close in both hands
However, sectioned staffs are not a battlefield weapon or a weapon that you would carry around on your daily business so it was probably not used a lot, I think

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Believe what you want. There is nothing wrong with using a heavier sword, provided you can handle it. It could just be that you're a beginner and are drawing with too much muscle, straining yourself.

But lighter swords exist for a reason, and are somewhat under represented in modern mass produced blades. For the kind of repetitive practice you are doing they would be far more forgiving for a beginner.

>believing mainstream science

Just don't masturbate or watch pornogrpahy or have sex before marrigae
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RIP, damn you lake monster.

some say he is still alive. he has become the protector of atlantis

I don't buy guns from companies that sell out gun rights in order to screw over their competition.

Jake Norwood has scored quite a few points in competition by throwing his sword in the air, running in, and disarming his opponent.

3lbs would be pretty damn heavy for a standard length katana.

Dude, the heaviest katana is like 4 pounds, lift some weights or practice more.

Also why the fuck are you using a teenager weeb weapon and not a gun?

4lbs? where?

Probably some Cold Steel bullshit

Swinging a sword all day is hard After few weeks it will be easier.

the way of the warrior is a long hard road, op.
you must train everyday and stop at nothing to developing your s-sword skills.
and never forget the importance of combo-moves

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neither of which should pose a problem to anyone fit enough to contemplate using a sword as a weapon. It's a weakness thing.

That said, delivering strikes (especially one handed) uses muscles most people don't have trained, so some soreness is reasonable in the beginning.

Yeah. Yeah, OP, I know that feel. You live a modern 21st century sedentary lifestyle, you try to take up the sword, you find you're pretty badly conditioned for it. I've been there.

The thing to remember is, almost none of the warriors of the past tried to make that transition like that. The fighters of yore, despite living in times where everything was accomplished through manual labor, still didn't go directly to handling the sword. They trained themselves on simulacra, the rudis, the waster, the bokudo, before ever lifting live steel. There's sense in that.

I would recommend acquiring one of the training swords made by the great weapon artisans of Louisville Slugger, and practicing with that. Go through your forms with that implement and build your strength. Protip, look up the concept of "dynamic tension exercises", and incorporate that into your conditioning. Within two weeks you'll be much stronger, and your blade will move in your hands like a live thing.

Pushups and dips help a lot, but don't do as much to build tendon strength or engage your stabilizer muscles. Pullups and chinups are good too, a lot of cuts are going to engage your triceps and back. Don't neglect your core, your core muscles are the source of striking power, and don't neglect your legs, your legs are the foundation all power is built on.

It seems like a lot, but you'll improve so exponentially before diminishing returns set in it'll blow your mind.

You don't have to be THAT strong if your swinging with proper technique. The weight of the sword should be doing most of the work for you.

Bats are terrible fill ins for a sword, all the weight is at the end rather than towards the grip.

Your core has nothing to do with swinging a sword. It's mainly your biceps, triceps and forearms.

>all the weight is at the end rather than towards the grip.
Yes. All the weight is on the end. So you have diminished leverage, and train with that, and it builds up your strength above what will be necessary to control your sword. I'm talking about increasing strength, not refining technique.
Wrong. The power of a sword stroke comes from your core. The power of a punch comes from your core, the power of an axe swing comes from your core, the power of any direct kinetic energy transfer originates from your hips and abdomen. Your shoulder, your upper arm, your forearm, your hand, they're only circuits the power is directed and controlled through. It all starts at your core. Ignore this and you'll handicap yourself, capable of nothing but impotent snap-cuts and flourishes.

>holy shit, no one told me katana are so fucking heavy
>youtube.com/watch?v=dvIS-sPdj0A

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O look another bullshit shillselfbump thread for the crapfest that is kult of athena

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Nothing wrong with kult of athena, it's the best site for buying most swords.
You can get katana cheaper on swordsoftheeast with the 15% discount code, but other than that, kultofathena is the way to go.

Go fuck yourself your shitty company and yoor shitty advertising threads asshole.They sell crap.Thats why they have to decueve retards with crap like this thread and fake youtube reviewers like that tosser skallgrim

Calm down, insane ESL guy.

Literally everything wrong with kult of athena user.

Such as?

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Quit samefagging your shitty advertising thread fir your junk kult of athena company.

He has some huge forearms. Looks like that works.

Crap indian made fakes unmarked by the manufacturer, fake 'battleready' legally meaningless junk pumping, and shitty junk pumping advertising threads, bulk selling eefective crap as 'munitions grade' fake reviews, fake front sites.Just a complete bucket of puke..

Everything but regularly starting advertising 'sword' threads to push their junk here is probably no. 1 reason anons hate them now

This is the most hilarious samefagging I've ever seen. You know that we can tell it's you because of your ESL grammar, right?

The brazilian dude who throws a tantrum about Kult Of Athena in every Jow Forums sword thread tried to do a return scam on them and failed. That's why he melts down at the mere mention of the site name. Lmao.

Japs can't into tempering, so the only way to make them without them breaking constantly was to make them nearly 3x the thickness of a western sword.

t. zoomer faggot

Japanese tempering was way more advanced than European tempering, lol. Differential tempering barely existed in Europe while every katana had it.

Nope but it sure interesting kult of atheba samefaghing its shitty advertising thread with paranoia about its own customers which it clearly holds in contempt.But then their business model is selling shit to retards so no suprise there

shine on you mentally ill spic

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Neither of these is accurate. Both are gross misrepresentations of the state of sword making in Japan and Europe respectively.

The Japanese did have light swords, and Europe did have differential tempering, which is not necessarily better or worse depending on what materials you have and what you are trying to accomplish.

Comedy is watching cunt of athena selfbumping and trying to slide people who know what a shitfest it and its shitty 'sword' threads.Today anons kult of fags wants your shekels for some crappy weeb sword they overstocked.

Perhaps every 1 in 100 European sword was slack quenched, which you can barely call differential temper, but you can call it that technically. 999 in 1000 katana were differentially clay quenched.

Kult of athena well paranoid about some spic it ripped off clearly.Still samefagging their shitty junk sword like object third world made garbage advertising thread.

>heavy, thick blade with 0 flex
>superior to true tempering
Kek, try harder web faggot

>being this much of a dumbass

I don’t think these people are going to take their katanas and other weeb swords into combat. I think they’re just having some fun and doing something interesting. Do you exist to suck the fun out of everything?

And differential clay quench is inferior and makes an inferior product.
Hence why they had a sword with a sabre profile at 4x the weight, that had a brittle as fuck edge