Vote NO on the directive. It is a massive infringement on rights and liberties, and the only way you can own them is through an exemption permit which is up to cantonal discretion. Cantons like Geneva, Vaud and Neuchatel for example do not issue it, while others need a fucking day pass every time you want to shoot exemption permits.
The government lied in 2005 when it said joining Schengen would not affect gun rights. ARTICLE 5 also allows the EU to make the laws stricter every five years.
Tell EVERYONE you know to vote no. Print out flyers use whatever social media you have to raise awareness.
Please based Swiss, I want to move there if shit goes to shit incthe states, you guys are all Europe has
Logan Perry
Lol good luck, hope you know somebody or you'll be SoL.
Brandon Diaz
What about Czechoslovakia? Aren't they pretty based on guns too?
Luke Gray
>The government lied in 2005 when it said joining Schengen would not affect gun rights. The Jews lied? Who'd have guessed?
Kevin Reed
the US is still the best place to live if you are into guns by a large margin (I guess unless you'd like to try living in a dysfunctional country). Everywhere else, even in Switz, you may get to buy cool funs you can't get in the US, but to do anything other than fingerfuck them you're faced with extremely regulated environments and everyone telling you what to do and how.
Cameron Gonzalez
mountain jews are gonna get fucked. kek. good!
Hunter Rodriguez
That country doesn't exist anymore, but the Czech Republic is definitely better than Switzerland for firearm ownership and carry. Better than some states here in the US, too.
Ayden Collins
Fuck off, we are full All the foreigners we have give a 15 point advantage to the commie parties already
Jose Morgan
Bullshit. Your country ranks 48th in population density. You're far from being like Japan or India.
Brayden Williams
Every new house takes away space for 300m ranges
Henry Fisher
we don't want to be like Japan or India, what's the point of having a beautiful country when you transform it into an asphalt dessert?
Robert Cooper
>country who relies 100% on a militia for national defense to the point where every able bodied adult is issued an actual assault rifle that they own >fine with restricting civilian gun rights
I hope Russia invades them the day after this passes.
Kayden Stewart
>EU Diktat >Actually entirely up to swiss vote Go on, do blame brussels (or better yet, blame germany... that's your favourite pastime anyway, right?) You're about to find out that your nation is every bit as cucked as the rest of europe, that's all.
Lincoln Sanchez
>100% militia Retarded burger. The Swiss military is made of mostly male conscripts. They are under direct control of the government, and remain in the reserve for 10 years after conscription ends. They do not own the rifle, it is government owned and kept under their care.
Daniel Roberts
Really man? You better not be an American, because you are living up to the stereotype.
Owen Evans
Godspeed, mountain jews.
Nicholas Sanchez
Any opinion polls? What are the chances this passes?
Benjamin Cruz
We don't want more cities because it only brings more degeneracy
Isaac Sullivan
Shut the fuck up, jew.
Ian Brooks
>transform it into an asphalt dessert That doesn't sound tasty.
Population density looks not that bad if compared to the whole surface of the country. But only 30 to 40% of the country is habitable.
Mason Howard
There would be no vote if no one had started a referendum.
Julian Reed
Switzerland is fully free to tell the EU to fuck off whenever you want, not being a member and all. Of course that could mean Switzerland would miss out on your incredibly favorable trade deals under the aegis of the EU single market which in turn would mean lost shekels. And as we all know, you mountain jews like all jews fear lost shekels more than death itself which is why you’ll sacrifice every liberty you have to stay in the single market.
Owen Carter
>be slave or else a typical nazi control freak
Cooper Long
Gott hilf der Schweiz. May the Swiss hold on to their God given rights.
Josiah Reyes
Have a bump. Good luck swissbros.
That's actually not a bad summation of the pro control essay on swissinfo. >it's not so bad guys >look at all this money we'll lose!
Camden Bell
The EU doesn't actually have the balls to sanction its secret jew-gold bank over guns. They wouldn't actually lose any money.
Luis Campbell
>Of course that could mean Switzerland would miss out on your incredibly favorable trade deals under the aegis of the EU single market which in turn would mean lost shekels. That's nonsense. EU won't miss out on that trade for some inconsequential gun laws either. The real reason this even has momentum is that a number of swiss people and interest groups legitimately want stricter gun control and use the initiative to push it.
Nathan Rivera
I tend to agree (especially with Brexit looming) but most "experts" disagree. The question is how much the average user agrees with the experts.
Mason Powell
>you are not in the eu >tell the eu "no, fuck off" What am i missing here?
Liam Gonzalez
Opinion polls are wortless because apparently only pro-gun people participate and at the actual Referendum they get steamrolled by the SJW and NPC.
William Price
We get told that without Schengen things will be fucked up, Switzerland will be ruined, people will be broke, etc.
Let me tell you one thing: Swiss people don't profit from Schengen
>We're still broke the same at the end of the month >Unemployment is still on the same level >Cost of real estate has exploded >Costs of healthcare went through the roof >We still pay as much taxes >Traffic jams worsened >Trains aren't any less full >There are still tons of refugees hanging around train stations and in parks >We still have to fill paperwork to export stuff >We still pay tax duty and VAT when we import stuff
Lol faggot you probably speak none of the languages used in Switzerland, especially since they're all unique dialects.
Isaac Morales
Countries like Norway and Switzerland are EU satellite states (they have to obey EU regulations but can't vote in the European Parliament since they aren't members)
That's why they've kept throwing the UK more time. Because they care deeply about the brits and how badly it's going to hurt the UK. They are so strong they are really concerned with altruism. EU has no internal issues. Everybody is happy with it. All the countries TRUST them. Solid financial futures abound.
Fantasy land sure is fun.
Wyatt Harris
Then what I ask is that you expand your influence, try to become a superpower, it'll be unsuspecting Maybe then there'll be room, but im only escaping freedom land if all else fails, youll probably fall before me You wont have to worry yet, i live in a state known for it's strong hold on it's gun rights, then I go to Alaska, if i face danger there ill go to Switzerland, if you fags havent fell If everything doesnt work then it's impossible to know what comes after
Jacob Thomas
>mfw swissfags tell white people to fuck off but go along with the EU plans to commit sudoku on the European populace
The problem with Switzerland is that everything is going so well that a lot of people don't even consider that things might not always be as good. We even have a good bunch of people who want to abolish our military. The majority thinks combat aircraft are useless.
The older people, who generally knew harder times and to value what we have are now too worried about their retirement. The younger ones are just actively fucking shit up because they've never known anything else than wealth.
And honestly I'm not asking for sympathy, because we're being the fucking retards ruining our own country. It's our own fault and no one else's. We have direct democracy.
who controls your media and dissemination of ideas how many of your people study in foreign countries under compromised systems?
Ethan James
Very untrue. The only thing you can't do in most EU countries is go innawoods and shoot unless it s a hunting ground or you're on private property with permission. Everything else is pretty much available, of course you have fudd ranges where you can only shoot one bullet a second, but there's also places where you can do muh tacticool shooting and magdump into targets
Carter Long
Democracy is flawed, you're just feeling the results of it
Carson Carter
It's the UK who's asking for extensions. The EU knows a no deal would be bad for everyone and tries to avoid it At the same time it won't change its deal. Just give the UK more time to sign it, as the negotiations are closed already
Christopher Cox
I've also had friends tell me the military should be abolished. The brainwash machine works everywhere. >t. Spaniard
Swiss don't have any constitutional right to bear arms, silly yank.
Nicholas Brooks
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Carson Jenkins
da jew
Jayden King
>I want to move there if shit goes to shit incthe states >all he does is run >when things get bad, instead of picking up a gun and fighting, he runs >any country willing to take in fighting age male who doesn't fight
lol, just move into the ocean, senpai.
Henry Rodriguez
Aren't they funding the remain side? all that brussels bribe money?
>The EU knows a no deal would be bad for everyone That would be my point. The EU said >Bad for all. Worse for them. Therefore we dictate terms.
And the UK has thus far rejected it. The EU is giving them more time because it will hurt the EU badly not because they care about the UK. The EU vastly overestimates its strength and the degree to which they enjoy the mandate of the people.
This is a null point since the UK proved to be unwilling to crash out with a no deal
Zachary Lewis
One the problem with the deal is you're tied by EU courts for 12 (8+4) years without any say on writing. and they can decide if there have been any infractions, legally it's a compromising position.
Josiah Bell
Well yeah, it's some kind of Norway-style deal It's definitely worse than being a full member though
Evan Reed
No deal and staying in are both better options than the deal, if/when they try to push a "peoples referendum" they'll make it a three way split or a two way between the deal or remain to split votes and claim there's justification to remain it's possible they're trying to delay so we get our ankles shackled by lisbon in 2020
David Cook
>No deal and staying in are both better options than the deal, I would say from the UK perspective: Status quo > May's deal > no deal > member state (without the UK's opt-outs) The only option in my opinion is to make a referendum and ask the people if the ywant >a) no deal Brexit >b) May's deal Brexit >c) new elections and a new government to sign a new deal (if the EU accepts to renegotiate that is)
But anyway it's pretty pointless long term. Brexit will polarize the British political climate for decades. I can see a "rejoining the EU" party in 10 years assuming they'll actually live some time in the future
Ayden Anderson
Lol retard
Logan Turner
It seems to me that anything other than no deal leaves the UK worse off than if they just stayed in. They'll still have to obey Brussels and no longer have representation in the parliament, right?
Jaxon Carter
More or less, yeah. Under the current "May Deal" anyway
Jonathan Flores
I saw an article by a german economist angry that the EU was jeopardising trade for political reasons.
Kevin Bell
Yeah Germany would prefer to throw some countries under the bus (namely Ireland and those with a lot of citizens in the UK) to keep trading smoothly with the UK and make money It goes to show the shift of the EU from an extension of Germany's foreign policies to its own thing with a more Pan-European focus. That's why it's always funny to see the >muh fourth reich meme. It was maybe accurate 10 years ago
Charles Morgan
This but unironically
Charles Brown
user the EU is going to rig the damned vote
Cooper Roberts
may God bless you and keep you, swissbro
Christian Parker
>to be part of our club you need to follow these rules >I won’t follow these rules >then you are not allowed to be part of our club >yuo nazi!!! control freak!!! fascist!!!
It’s not fucking hard Switzerland. You either follow our rules and earn more shekels or you don’t and pay tariffs on goods and services per WTO rules like the rest of the world. It’s not like a million EU soldiers will pour over the border if you decide to no longer follow the rules. All that happens is that you MIGHT lose out on some shekels if the EU decides to push the issue. But you mountain jews like all jews think that lost shekels are just as bad as tanks in the streets and bombers in the sky.
Brayden Kelly
how is this possible when swiss don't have an Army and the people are the army? fuck israel.
Ryan Lewis
Voting ain't going to accomplish shit, idiot. As long as jews are in control, things are only going to get worse, they won't stop until the entire world is a single mixed race of slaves.
Kayden Martinez
Its a bullshit game played by both sides. Itll be eternal delay forever.
Xavier Morgan
So long as parliament is dominated by remoaners and the EU is dominated by powerhungry douchelords, the UK isnt leaving.
Julian Anderson
Some German economists might prefer fucking over Ireland but all political power in Germany, EU as a whole and the USA all have been VERY clear on the matter that they will not sign or support any deal that threaten the peace in Northern Ireland. The UK will also bend and twist like a corkscrew to protect the Good Friday agreement.
The Irish border issue is what will undo brexit, resulting in either the UK staying or accepting May’s deal, extensions being granted until either of one of those options being accepted. The high tech border proposal touted by brexiteers reads like a bad ICO someone would shill in Jow Forums, not even hard brexiters really believe that one would work.
Wyatt Stewart
Imagine being so cucked that it's not your own government that's disarming you, but it's a group of unelected bureaucrats in OTHER countries disarming you.
Joshua Ross
Hey Stalin watcha doin
Cameron Johnson
Lol you write all that and will think you’re not some control freak nazinigger?
Bentley Lee
>Going back in time to live in a country that spend a grand total of 4 years not being communist.
Nathaniel Martinez
Personally I hope Switzerland tells the EU to take their rules and stick them where the sun don’t shine. If you do decide to follow the rules in the name of shekels, it’s ENTIRELY on Switzerland though, you cannot blame the EU for you being money grubbing kikes.
Lucas James
The right to bear arms is a natural right you cuck retard, the American bill of Rights just specifically restricts the state from infringing upon it
Angel Williams
Good luck God bless and God speed to the Swiss
Charles Rodriguez
>Trusting or joining intergovernmental political organizations at all I WARNED YA BRO I WARNED YOU BOUT DEM NWOS
Logan Smith
I wish that the swiss law would reckognize that as such, but we're way too anti-freedom already. It's a "Birds born in a cage see flying as an illness"-situation. Hopefully there are still enough people here that don't want to sell more freedom for muh Schengen and "economic safety" which should have fuck all to do with our gun laws anyway.