CCW Revolvers

I was rather impressed with the Ruger LCR's trigger pull, although the alloy frame makes it light enough that it womps you pretty hard shooting it.

S&W J frames or an sp101 if you want .357

I'd probably want a .38 because I'm a beginner shooter

In that case an sp101 and just shoot .38 out of it but I would get a slightly gather gun as your first.

get a .357 and shoot 38spl

if you're a beginner shooter though, don't get a revolver.

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I mean I don't shoot much but I have a g19 and the 43. Never shot a revolver but I just want one to carry instead of the 43 so I can carry appendix without fear of blowing off my cock

Don't get a J frame then, at least not for carry

Nothing wrong with a revolver for a new shooter imo. Just practice that trigger.

I like J Frames, and the Taurus snubs I've tried weren't bad.

Ruger LCR has awful grip options, but I like the SP101.

>don't get the safer gun that is easier to deal with a failure to fire with in an emergency

Only get a snub nose if you plan on practicing a lot with it. They are harder to shoot that either of your glocks.

>the safer gun
Theres nothing automagically safer about them
>failure to fire
so stupidly rare its not gonna happen.

Can confirm. I couldn't hit shit with my LCR until I started practicing a lot with only one live round and four spent casings in the cylinder. Id spin it, aim and shoot. There was only a 20% chance that a live round would go off and if I pulled the trigger on a spend round I could clearly see how I was anticipating recoil and jerking the muzzle. Helped a lot with accuracy.

How many times are you gonna make the same bread in one day faggot?

Having a heavier pull is inherently safer on draw and reholster, also during stress people are proven to finger triggers.

I'd say having a ~10lb long da is more comforting than a 5.5 lb striker

No its fucking not, thats just your conjecture, you aren't ludicrously safer having an 8lb DA pull vs another piston's 8lb DA pull or 5lb SA or striker pull.

You having an ND because you had your finger on the trigger is your fault.

Literally fucking apply yourself brainlet.

Feel free to go read about NY cops and more fingering their triggers under stress. Youre not special. Having a more deliberate pull is safer in terms of snags and more and as well it's more comforting to carry.

>arcane ritual to summon the dark god Korth

No they fucking didn't, its because the NYPD was full of incompetent morons who (again all ND's are your fault) had ND's because they're fucking stupid.

They specifically ordered glocks with 10lb trigger pulls which became known as "the NY triggers" because they were so garbage. Their accuracy was such garbage that they actually miss more and hurt more bystanders because of it. No other PD does this stupid shit and the only reason they adopted it was because they're fudd morons

>I know better than everyone I'd never finger my trigger

Okay champ. I'm sure those IDPA pros who also get finger on early are also dog shit and youre much better than they are. Forgive me for thinking you were a mere mortal.

>I know better than a bunch of retarded cops
The fact that I probably have more hours at the pistol range practicing than the whole NYPD "qualifies" in a year combined, yea I'd say I'm a safer, better shot than some morons who can't keep their fingers off the trigger.

nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html

Yea its pretty easy to say the NYPD are:
>not good shots
>not safe with their guns
They're so bad they literally didn't hit this guy once but shot multiple bystanders because of their garbage safety.

Yep and youre a way better shooter than those trash IDPA guys too. They fucking suck. So overrated.

foxnews.com/us/nypd-9-shooting-bystander-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire

The cops literally caused a mass shooting because they're such garbage shots.

Yeah the NYPD sucks, all pigs do but the idpa doesnt and thinking its a shocking revelation that people dont have perfect trigger discipline under stress isnt shocking either.

I cited that as one example. Watch Lucky Gunners video on double action if you want an opinion from someone that takes loads of training courses.

>perfect
Its not even about being perfect its about not putting your finger on the trigger.

My 3 gun comps are WAY fucking faster than any NY pig has to draw and shoot his target and I'm faster and on point more than any pig would. Couple that with every 3 gun comp I go to hasn't had a single ND.

Oh man but keep playing it up, the NY pigs are "so stressed" to the point they can't even function properly or draw/holster their guns let alone SHOOT their guns so much so that they actively shoot more peds than criminals.

Everyone puts their finger on the trigger in moments theyre not supposed to. You thinking you'll have perfect discipline under stress is laughable. Fucking larper.

Stop shitting up anons thread. He wants a revolver and his reasons are valid and better shooters than you can echon similar sentiments. No ones perfect, especially not under stress.

>Everyone puts their finger on the trigger in moments theyre not supposed to
not me, or any other dude at a fucking 3 gun comp. No ND's around here.

Seems like the cops you're vehemently defending are so bad at their jobs, so bad at drawing, so bad at holstering, so bad at not fucking ND-ing they need a handicap meanwhile the rest of america functions perfectly fine.

>putting finger on trigger = nd

Hello tard.

>defend cops

Ahahahhaa you dont know me and can't read what I'm saying. If you dont like pigs then go watch lucky gunners video on DA, and more people than him say similar things. Hes had more training courses than you I guarantee.

You fucking striker fags shit up any thread where people dont want to carry exactly like you do. fucking autistic niggers.

this is what you're defending
>revolvers are safer because they're less prone to ND-ing
>no they aren't thats all on you, ND's are your fault
>well the NYPD uses 10lb triggers
>and the NYPD are WAY less safe than everyone at a 3gun comp who has 1lb triggers
>hurr durr they're professionals derp hurp

>Hello tard.
Being so bad at your trigger control that you are highly prone to ND's to the point you think a heavier trigger will make you safer all the while you cite the fucking police department known for the MOST ND's and most bystander shootings because they're so UNSAFE with their guns.

Sig p365

>You're safer if you have a heavy DA trigger, it helps prevent ND's
>Instead of being more safe, learning how to be safe or anything to do with safety I'm going to grossly compensate for my lack of safety by doing something not even remotely proven to increase safety
You're literally the same unsafe moron with a heavier trigger.

Yes they are. If your finger jumps during stress and its on the trigger it is objectively less likely to fire on a revolver than a gun with a 5.5 lb trigger.

Not prone to nds on the range or training. were not talking about playing

See above dumb fuck. You dont know more than people who've taken hundreds of hours of courses.

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>Yes they are
The cops aren't safer than me if they shoot more bystanders and ND far more you thick fuck.

>Not prone to NDs on the range
In a 3 gun comp you're expected to draw your firearm just the same, these aren't playful range times where there is no stress, theres an extreme stress on being as fast as possible and yet at the same time you aren't seeing any ND's there like you do at the NYPD

>See above dumb fuck. You dont know more than people who've taken hundreds of hours of courses.
Yea I would say I do especially because I don't have to compensate my "lack of safety" with a heavier trigger that won't make me more safe. I have ND'd exactly zero times and I'm not worried about NDing ever. If that doesn't make me safe and I need to listen to some paid youtuber to tell me I can be more safe with a heavy trigger then thats probably advice I'm going to discard as an uneducated opinion. Classes don't mean shit.

My LCR is pretty awesome and you're right that the aluminum frame is a bit too light.

My one major issue with the LCR platform is that they can rattle. It's fixable but the whole point of concealed carry is that it's supposed to be concealed... not jingle as you walk.

omg this fucking faggot lol

>the top 10% of gun users(autists who live to compete) are totally safe with 1lb triggers guise so a heavy trigger doesn't make you safer.

Cops and most gun owners are not on that level and never will be because they don't give enough of a fuck about it to become specialists like faggots who train, take classes and compete because they fucking LOVE THAT SHIT. A heavy trigger is safer for low skill shooters. Now please fuck off, kys and then have your mom post pics(tits out ofc).

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More reliable and easier to maintain as well. Revolvers are pretty much the perfect beginner carry weapon.

youtu.be/IP8F_cwotM8

>I know more than people who've taken hundreds of hhours of courses from professionals and competitors and those pros and competitors

Arrogant dumb fuck I hate people like you.

How about you listen to someone who competes with revolvers opine on the subject.

youtube.com/watch?v=CEHtRkyTe-0

>>the top 10% of gun users(autists who live to compete) are totally safe with 1lb triggers guise so a heavy trigger doesn't make you safer.
It doesn't its complete conjecture, you're readily admitting you're unsafe to the point you need a heavier trigger to prevent yourself from ND-ing which is dumb because it doesn't solve your first issue which is PUTTING YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER WHEN YOU ARENT READY TO FIRE.

I don't care about unskilled unsafe shooters they can get better by becoming more skilled and more safe, a trigger won't stop them from being unsafe or unskilled.

I don't and haven't ND'd ever I don't need to take advice from someone who insists I need a 10lb trigger to prevent me from ND-ing because I don't ND in the first place.

>you're readily admitting you're unsafe to the point you need a heavier trigger to prevent yourself from ND-ing which is dumb because it doesn't solve your first issue which is PUTTING YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER WHEN YOU ARENT READY TO FIRE.

Right what part of low skill shooters don't you fucking get? Most gun owners RARELY GO FUCKING SHOOTING. They don't train. They don't compete. Just by posting on this board you are putting more thought into gun ownership than 75% or more of the gun owning community.

Not to mention people who DO train even acknowledge the benefits of DA. See here:
You've aalso not been in self defense scenarios that are different than you going to shoot paper on the range.

Your argument that having heavier trigger draw can affect a person's psyche in a way that makes him become relatively less safe--compared to the same person with a lighter trigger draw--as time passes is not a valid counterargument against the argument that a heavier trigger draw helps to prevent ND by making it harder to accidentally perform a physical action while under the effects of stress, adrenaline, etc..
It makes too many assumptions about the physical and mental characteristics of the person.

There's only two kinds of gun owners bro.

1) those who have ND'd
2) those that are gonna ND

My dad didn't get his until he was in his 70s.

>You've aalso not been in self defense scenarios that are different than you going to shoot paper on the range.
3 gun comps are NOT paper targets at the range. I'm drawing faster, better and performing better and stronger than any faggot cop

>Your argument that having heavier trigger draw can affect a person's psyche in a way that makes him become relatively less safe
I didn't say that I said that a heavy trigger won't make them MORE safe.

>prevent ND
you wanna prevent ND stop touching the trigger its that simple.

Youre also not under as much stress as a self defense scenario and are ignoring advice and words from people who are better shooters than you. Youre not john wick for shooting a 3 gun comp buddy, movies aren't real life.

Thats literally defeatism, thats like saying you've never had an accident and you're GONNA have one eventually.

You really can't go wrong as long as you don't buy ria or taurus or some other shit brand.

Then why don't other cops outside of the NYPD have as many incidents and ND's as they do because as far as I'm aware only the NYPD actually did 10lb glock triggers.

>I'm drawing faster, better and performing better and stronger than any faggot cop

That's why the cops need 10lb trigger. You have got to be trolling at this point. Your high level of training/practice and skill is not applicable to 90% of gun owners. Stop comparing yourself to them.

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>That's why the cops need 10lb trigger.
AFAIK only the NYPD did 10lb glock triggers, none if not, few other police departments use a modified trigger. All the other police issue glocks are gonna come with regular ass 5lb triggers on their AR's, Glocks, and 870's or what ever gun they have in their cars.

Swhack

IN FACT I would bet that a majority of CC guns are going to NOT be revolvers of any kind and you're not gonna find any actual data on the rate of ND's in revolver CCW's and semi-auto CCW's

None.too heavy. Love em but not for cc.

Meme. Hard to shoot well for a neophyte.

And using one for cc is 1980s thinking. Don't.

3” K frame a best.

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>I didn't say that I said that a heavy trigger won't make them MORE safe.
Sorry, I guess I gave you more credit than was due. If you perform a proper comparison, meaning the person and all things besides trigger draw strength is constant, a heavier trigger draw is harder to ND with, simply by way of requiring more physical force to perform the action.
The onus is thus on you to provide a counter-argument for how a heavier trigger draw will make an ND more likely, and then argue how this outweighs the increase in required force. Alternatively, you can provide a counter-argument that shows how requiring more force is not an advantage.

>you wanna prevent ND stop touching the trigger its that simple.
This is not a valid argument: 1. The trigger of a firearm can be pulled without being touched by the owner's body. 2. The situation in which a person intends to fire their firearm and thus has their finger on the trigger, but is then acted upon by a physical force (knocked into, tackled, etc.) or even surprised, can result in their aim being thrown askew.

>Sorry, I guess I gave you more credit than was due. If you perform a proper comparison, meaning the person and all things besides trigger draw strength is constant, a heavier trigger draw is harder to ND with, simply by way of requiring more physical force to perform the action.
No see the problem with this its conjecture that you'll prevent an ND when in reality you haven't solved the core problem causing your ND which is inexperience for which the cure is to practice. The majority of CCers don't ND and don't carry heavy ass revolvers. Hell even if they did they're gonna carry 38's or something like that and those triggers aren't anywhere near 10lbs that other bigger revolvers have.

This isn't even a good comparison, in fact there is no comparison you're just supposing that it is the way it is because you think this linearity makes sense when in reality its just conjecture.

>its not a valid argument to stop ND-ing
it absolutely is, you can practice your draw all day and fucking night and learn to not shoot until you intend to.

This is as dumb as the notion that revolvers are more reliable because the mechanism appears to be simpler. Through the same conjecture you can assume that because this appears to be linear it makes sense therefore its true when in reality its not.

hell couple that with this fact You don't hear about this swathing issue that CCers are ND-ing because they carried a trigger with a 5lb pull vs a 10lb pull of a revolver. There is no data, there is no evidence its all conjecture bullshit. Semi-autos are the dominant CCW across america because revolvers have fallen out of popularity for decades. There is no problem or anything with ND-ing and there is no incidence at all. Its made up.

either a ruger lcr 357 with lasergrip or a chiappa 30ds

>No see the problem with this its conjecture that you'll prevent an ND when in reality you haven't solved the core problem causing your ND which is inexperience for which the cure is to practice.
Practice can be performed equally regardless of trigger draw strength.
>This isn't even a good comparison, in fact there is no comparison you're just supposing that it is the way it is because you think this linearity makes sense when in reality its just conjecture.
If you truly think my argument is conjecture, provide a basis for that claim. Provide an example in which everything except trigger draw strength is constant and the heavier trigger draw strength is more likely to ND.

>it absolutely is, you can practice your draw all day and fucking night and learn to not shoot until you intend to.
It is not. I provided clear examples where your argument does not (can not) hold true. Address those examples if you wish to assert it is a valid argument. I will not address the moving goalpost argument made here.