Ameribros how do we compete with Russia? Everything they have is superior, tanks, planes, small arms, ships...

Ameribros how do we compete with Russia? Everything they have is superior, tanks, planes, small arms, ships, radars and rockets EVERYTHING. I bet if we go war against Russia we will lose 100 spic marines for each russian soldier they lose. Fucking hell this is over for America....

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Until we find a way to thaw Siberia and get the oil underneath Russia holds no value to America and they don't have the capacity to get their troops anywhere outside their (very limited) sphere of influence. WW3 ain't happening over a pisspot like Syria.

Shut up Dmitri, don't you have stairs to squat on?

lol

>war begins with Russia
>USA airdrops 3 million bottles of vodka
>Vatniks fall asleep
>America wins

>Dmitri
Its more likely chang

>the antibait-baiter has risen

The Russian Navy is the most terrifying aspect.
15 Aircraft carriers
35 Kirov class battlecruisers
100+ Assorted cruisers and destroyers
10 Typhoon SSBNs in active service
17 Oscar SSGN
80+ Yasen and Akula SSN
60+ Kilo variants.

The only comparable advantage the Russians have over NATO troops is artillery. Royal Artillery Fire Controller on an exercise was telling me how they have far more guns, both towed and self propelled than a lot of NATO, with greater range, and they attach far more organic artillery assets to their formations than we can/do. The only advantage is that they generally have less fire controllers/observers, but that just means theyre more likely to get a lot more guns on task per fire controller.

Good bread

We don't. Sad to say, America is over.

don't forget they also have integrated electronic warfare troops down to (i think) battalion level

>pfc jose keys his radio
>OH NO YOU DIDN'T YOU LITTLE SPI-
>35 gun submunition fire mission

American radar and listening devices can pinoint a firing point for artillery within a huge range.

>Colonel Dmitriy Sukablyatnov fires his little guns
>Instantly provokes a response of dozens of hellfires and GBUs.

America can trade pfc Joses for artillery batteries all day. Can Russia?

>Fucking this is over for America.....

Lrn2English. That didn't flow properly. Obvious bait thread is obvious. Here's your (you)

>Its more likely chang
It's more likely Oliver the Aussy troll.

bumping based bread

>hellfires and GBUs
honestly, with what? do you seriously think russia is going to give you enough warning to deploy anything above perhaps 100 fighter jets max? they don't have to defeat american air superiority, they just have to force you to deploy from far away enough that they can guarantee ground superiority

oh and laugh at russian sam systems all you like but they are not a fucking joke, attempting to fly around in the baltics will be very difficult even for something like an f-35

that brings you down to basically ground troops and tomahawks which isn't the best state of affairs against an enemy with a modern electronic warfare arm and lots of artillery

Have a friend that's active TSSN. Can confirm that they still have 80-90s gear issued throughout 95% of their military.

>t.Hohol

>t.Pajeet

>t.Hernandez

Cool.

US employs oil sanctions of Russia.

Russia economy collapses.

US laughs as no one really needed their oil.

Way too easy to destroy Russia without firing a single shot.

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>Muh s-400s and pantsirs

*Laughs in Hebrew*

We have optics

The more we use sanctions, the faster the rest of the world decides to sidestep them by paying for oil in currencies other than the dollar. I like some things about Trump, but his heavy reliance on sanctions is destroying the wprldwide economic order we established amd just makimg other countries want to do.business elsewhere.

>Sanctions don't work! Also sanctions only make Russia stronker! Sanctions only hurt America! Pls remove sanction.

Vanya the concern troll telling us how it's all in our national interest to always do what Russia wants.

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Navy

So...global warming?

Don't worry bro. Only the best and brightest serve in the US armed forces.

It has nothing to do with what Russia or China or Venezuela or any of those other shitholes want, it has to do with the fact that if all the other nations that keep large amounts of dollars in thoer reserves arent allowed to use them to buy what they want, they will no lomger want them and the inflation that has been kept in check for decades by international demand for the dollar will come back with a vengeance. Your picture sums it up very well, actually.

>PRIVYET. HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW AMERIBROSKIS?

>Ameribros how do we compete with Russia?
Sit back and watch it die as it is through its own corruption, fsb dictatorship and incompetently managed infrastructure and healthcare
>Everything they have is superior
Literally nothing they have is superior but the most inferior of all is the Russian army itself the ncos and conscipts and the Russian economy which is the size of Italy. Most Russians lie on 500 dollars a month. Its amazing you think that this festering crapholes propaganda about its non-existent meme weapon announcements, the only effective parts of the Russian army are those established to crush any ciillian unrest in russia

Countries with sanctions don't deserve to use the USD

Faggot vatnik

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Keep dreaming Ivan, you want to run around invading your neighbours, lying about it and running around murdering people using verve agents on NATO countries soil you can expect to get banned from the sweetshop.

>Stefen Colbert
Eeww, you're probably some government paper-pusher.

We don’t, if America were conquered by Russia it would be objectively better for White people

>slav pschozo poster

MLRS

>We don’t, if America were conquered by Russia it would be objectively better for White people

what we could lie the dream of being poor liing on 500 dollars a month, being jailed for complaining about anything and dying of aids while some foreign midget dictator runs around stealing whatever he likes for his 'oligarchs' ? Just about the only aspect I like is I get to die shooting Russian paratroopers singing my Nation Anthem and fulfil my ideal death taking as many scum Russian invaders to hell with me as possible.

you are dumb

Porn, we definitely have better quality porn thanks to Brazzers and that evil smack talking sicko at Facial Abuse.
Rocko handles the French girls like a pro.
Russia has what?
Krocodil girls with dissolving flesh, exposed bones , no teeth and HIV, or women's Sumo wrestling.

I say we let them keep shooting each other down in training exercises. Problem should fix itself eventually.

Jow Forumsangaroos member here, I know of which you speak.

Why the fuck are most of my countrymen so retarded? You either of you even understand basic economics, why inflation happens or the implications of losing our dollar hegemony? World reserve currency is a huge privilege, and to constantly abuse it will cause other nations to look elsewhere for a more predictable store of value than some currency they don't even know if they'll be able to use next week for fear of pissing off someone at Treasury and invoking CAATSA on your ass.

Have fun with burgers owning the skies.

I mean, focusing sanctions on a single, universally-hated thorn in our allies side doesn't reduce US power. It's dumb shit like Iran that spends too much political capital for little gain.

But it's already proven to be completely irrelevant. China already sidesteps the dollar and pays for Russian oil directly in yuan. Russia wants to accept Euro for payment too, and once the EU, our supposed "allies" set up thier SPV, they probably will pay for it as such. Then thier central banks have that much less need for greenbacks. They all tie together, even if its just one piece at a time.

Love the way you are ignoring the fact that even the European Nato members have vast air superiority and naval superiority over Russia and more professional soldiers. Then again its an essential piece of Russian propaganda for their own servile population to believe that its just the US that is the problem and that Europe hates Russia to and could also crush them militarily. If Russia threw everything it had it would last seven days, maybe get halfway across Poland or in an absolute best into Germany. But then the entire Russian airforce is destroyed. Next what happens to Russian ground forces witout air cover. They get obliterated and NATO ground forces mop them up. As NATO ground forces continue sweeping forward to the Russian border the lunatic in Moscow uses nukes. NATO responds obliterating the entire Russian population which is concentrated in western Russia (NATOs population is not concentrated). 50 years later people are writing history books about a country that ceased to exist called Russia. By the way at the neight of warsaw pact power which was massively greater than modern Russia, the forces of the USSR were not expected to do much better. Now? Russia might last a few days. At best. Sorry putin lied to you. You're less important and much poorer than the UK, France, Germany, the USA, Japan, etc. Russia is shit because rusians are shit. You are shit.Stain was shit, putin is shit and lenin was a german agent. Go take your krokadil. You can't invade Poland and the Baltic because the last time you were allies with Hitler (though you like to try and forget that) and he's dead.

You know, I used to be bothered by the "whole" burger demonym. It made me feel like that was America's defining characteristic in international eyes. Then one day, I was eating a Big Mac in a McDonald's in a 250 year old building in Milan, looking at their centuries-old cathedral outside the window, and I felt pride. Not because America was recognized for anything greater than our hamburgers, but because foreigners were forced to experience them. Even at their most sacred cultural sites, europoors can't escape the ever-expanding march of American obesity, and it warms my heart every time I think of it.

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>implications of losing our dollar hegemony?
Who told you that would happen? Take a guess because its theme of the day regularly on Russian bullshit sites like zerohege. I've always considered it the Russians projecting their inner angst about the rouble being essentially worthless

I think they could probably get farther than Poland assuming there was little warning of an attack. You're spot on with the air superiority part, though.

I quite like macdonalds . Cheap food for poor people in a relatively efficient manner. Why are you trying to invent reasons I should dislike Americans? Because McDonalds exists? At least they don't do gulags and totalitarian military occupation, which is what distinguished Russia and Russians as the biggest collection of shits on the planet for the last 50 years incessantly cucking themselves for some dictator who tells them that being cunts means they matter and it mitigates the fact they are impoverished servile serfs, Try harder.

>I think they could probably get farther than Poland

Well even when the Warsaw pact existed at the start line was west Germany the generals of the USSR had little confidence that they could even get to Belgium. Now they are infinitely weaker and the start line is further back. Its comedy gold to see vatniks with an economy the size o brazil lying to themselves that they can accomplish something that the USSR at its peak was incapable of NATO airpower alone would shred the Russian airforce. With US air power too it would be borderline comedy

I am not impressed

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>Ameribros how do we compete with Russia? Everything they have is superior, tanks, planes, small arms, ships, tigers and rockets EVERYTHING

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my goodness, this thread is fucking hilarious

On a slightly related note, this is a great lecture about the recent Crimea Affair. West point is cool because they have a bunch of other lectures about different military topics for those interested.

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My favorite part is when he says 'I bet you'll feel great when you win a moral victory and your men are burning to death"

>'I bet you'll feel great when you win a moral victory and your men are burning to death"

So he would have opposed D-day? That's nice

tl;dw me user

well the context of that statement is that, the USA doesnt have these submunitions Artillery shells because we signed a treaty against it, but Russia used them effectively against the Ukranians, and the flammable shells are so intense that the only triage for someone coated in the "Napalm-like gel" is to shoot them.
So his point is, they have superior artillery because of backing out of a restricting treaty, and the whole politics of it is silly

>Then one day, I was eating a Big Mac in a McDonald's in a 250 year old building in Milan
solid gold

Those mags are too high

it would be a little awkward reloading but it makes getting into and reloading from a prone position way more comfy, especially if you've already got so much bulk on your torso from that big fuckoff otv type thing

>when you win a moral victory and your men are burning to death"
This is dumb. He is dumb. You are dumb. Moral victories are essential if you wish to hold together a mulitlateral alliance. America could not beat Russia unilaterally, at the very least because without European help they'd have nowhere to stage from. Oh sure, attack across from Alaska and cross Siberia, that'll probably work.
Russia using these weapons alienates us Europeans who are kinda soft and fuzzy. America not using them reinforces that we have a shared bond in how we view ourselves, how we view humanity and how we believe humans should be governed. Like it or not, you need us, and you should consider that before pissing us off. Literally if Americans are just going to start being like a fat Russia, there's no reason for us not to tell you to fuck off.

I see what you mean. Good talk. Just watched it. He is talking about moral superiority in not deploying more themo weapons after Russia is already using them

>America could not beat Russia unilaterally
Yes it could. However unlike Russia the Americans do not invade somewhere just because they can. Especially if that place is falling apart because of the way it is being run and stays within its borders.

>Russia using these weapons alienates us Europeans who are kinda soft and fuzzy

I'm European. I have all my life been targeted by Russian nukes. Personally I believe that we should initiate nuclear war with Russia and destroy it utterly. It had a chance to redeem itself after the USSR and threw it away. We should not let future generations life in daily fear of a delinquent, militaristic slave state like Russia threatening invasion, subversion and apocalypse. Lets get it over with an vaporise Russia and work wit what's left when its gone. Any future without Russia existing any longer is worth that sacrifice for future generations. For 80 years Russia has terrorised Europe and the USA. Fuck them, fry them and lets take the hit. They've sponsored terrorists in every single European nation. Kill them all. Its nothing less then is warranted.

I'm European

Nice meme FSB

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>15 Aircraft carriers

They have 1 that they're considering selling.

The Great War ain’t happening over a pisspot like Serbia

Thanks for the new copypasta

This nigga knows.

I wouldn't worry about it

low quality bait

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did you know that they have AIDs

No it doesn't. They're poorly placed unless you have a second elbow.

I’m not even kidding about that. There’s literally 2 McDonald’s within 200 feet of Il Duomo di Milano. One’s directly across the plaza, so you see the Golden Arches if you look out the front of the church, and the other’s in a shopping complex next to it, which my friend from there claimed was the oldest mall in Europe. No free refills at either, sadly.
>Pic related, the view from the roof

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Post Soviet Russia is a joke

What's amazing is you think that there is something odd in having food sold a few hundred meters of this place, or that a 250 year old building is something special in Europe.

Hideous and squalid looking view in general.

>global warming
>real
Pick one

That's a man

cyber does seem like a meme. something counties can do during peace time to fuck and annoy with one another but not a decisive battle or war winner. i think they us navy just created an entirely new fleet dedicated to cyber...i dont really get it. it seems like the military version of the civilian love affair with AI. its popular because its sexy and cool, not because its realistic

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We should have done it in 1945 desu, same with China

That tower is fucking horrendous

I for one welcome our Ruski overlords.

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I know it’s common there, but as an American, there’s hardly any buildings that old to begin with, much less ones that have functioning businesses in them. The juxtaposition of a UNESCO heritage site across the street from a fast food place is just sorta funny to me.

Except that you couldn't
The moment american soldier stepped on Soviet soil amerisharts would be pushed back to UK and forced to accept capitulation

Wrong.

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>shaves
Yuck

Lol

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Why would I a normal, mostly apolitical, White, Christian, upper-middle class American have an issue with Russia taking over the United States? Say whatever you want about Vladimir Putin, but he doesn't have 1/10th the hate for me and people like me that your average liberal does.

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After the Eurozone crisis I don't think anyone is taking the Euro or the Yuan for granted. USD is just too stable compared to the currency of a literal confederation and the world's number one currency manipulator with no political/economic separation.

I love how Russian propaganda unironically presents Russia, a country that willingly spent a century under communism, with an 80% approval rate of Joseph fucking Stalin, as some sort of savior of western ideals. You understand that up until 1992, that country spent money to prop up movements that wanted to destroy the white, Christian, middle class in this country, right? It’s like a Jewish guy supporting hitler cause he also hates gypsies.

>he doesn't have 1/10th the hate for me and people like me that your average liberal does.

O no he's just targeting you and everyone you know and your nation with nuclear weapons out of ragequit that communism failed. I guess as a 'white middle class American' you believe firmly that a former KGB agent and handler of the Marxist terror group baader meinhof that Vladimir putin is just your best buddy and not your democratically elected president? I mean how hard are you trying to convince me that the bullshit that vatniks spew on pol actually brainwahes morons effectively?

>O no he's just targeting you and everyone you know and your nation with nuclear weapons out of ragequit that communism failed.

Or because we're doing the same fucking thing, except for us its about gay sex and private equity instead of post-imperial angst.

Alot low iq spics and blacks in the US that hate whitey, and alot of sandniggers and blacks in western europe. But for some reason i see alot of gooks in eastern europe. I am not even mad there are some amazing hapa women.

If your an American you're a traitor supporting a regime that is literally pointing nukes at you. I don't think you are American though.

Eastern Europe does not love Russia. They hate it. As regards your racial obsessions, most Russians are not Caucasian.

You do understand that the KGB literally funded most of the modern leftist movements in this country and used them to undermine the American social order, right? Like, all the "liberals" you bitch about are the direct result of Russia fomenting dissent in their primary enemy, which is you (assuming you're actually American).

I am an American, what I asked was "how would the political takeover of the United States by Russia make my life worse?". Besides man, look around you, i this really the America you grew up in?

Yes, because that's how power politics and proxy conflict works. Russia will always support the enemy of our ruling order, just like we'll always support the enemy of theirs. This shit isn't half as complicated as you wannabe big brains make it seem.

Liberals:
>fucking die straight christian cracker

Also liberals:
>WAAAAAHHH WHY WONT U CRACKERZ FIGHT FOR ME IM NOT DONE GENOCIDING U YET

So why direct your hate at the useful idiots of a hostile regime instead of the regime itself?